I updated WSJT-X to 2.6.1 and CAT works fine.
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Ah ok Oleg,
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This explains the rate of updates slowing down if you are having to cope with these sort of issues
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Very frustrating I am sure
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From: Oleg - R1CBU
Sent: 05 December 2023 15:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [xiegu-x6100] Xiegu X6100 Thoughts
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On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 05:59 PM, John Claridge 2E0JJC wrote:
Please try not to have those thoughts.
Errors in an inaccessible part of the firmware appear in unexpected places.
And I can't do anything about it.
Previously, sound playback only disappeared sometimes when switching to DIG modes.
And now, with the help of users, it was discovered that turning on the ATU setting _always_ disables sound playback.
And it’s not scary if this affects the playback of the broadcast recording, but the voice assistant stops working!
It's depressing.
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Re: Bad audio report, or RF infiltration?
I agree with the battery charge. I cycled the internal battery as mentioned 4 times and put full charge on it. Also, I am using an external Bioenno from my go box at times. I keep my mic gain 20-25 with excellent sound reports.
I'm wondering if Xeigu is making manufacturing part changes as they build these.
73,
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On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 05:59 PM, John Claridge 2E0JJC wrote:
Please try not to have those thoughts.
Errors in an inaccessible part of the firmware appear in unexpected places. And I can't do anything about it. Previously, sound playback only disappeared sometimes when switching to DIG modes. And now, with the help of users, it was discovered that turning on the ATU setting _always_ disables sound playback. And it’s not scary if this affects the playback of the broadcast recording, but the voice assistant stops working! It's depressing.
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Oleg Please try not to have those thoughts. So many of us are looking forward to the rest of the outstanding features you have on your task list. Keep up the good work.
On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 11:46 PM, Dennis wrote:
I am now wondering if the 6100 will ever perform as advertised. I'm thinking it's time to quit wasting my time messing with it and go on to something else.
Even I am having these thoughts more and more often!
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The RTTY and CW decode does work on my X6100, on 1.1.6 firmware
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CW decoder is fussy about tone, it has to be in the 600-800hz range, the RTTY decoder you have to get the correct tone spacing etc
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From: Jim, KJ5CBS via groups.io
Sent: 05 December 2023 13:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [xiegu-x6100] Xiegu X6100 Thoughts
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I concur with Dennis. ?I’m a relatively new owner, but this little radio is infuriating. ?Touted features don’t work. ?My X6100 will connect to WiFi at my vacation home but not my home QTH. ?I’m considering buying a code reader because
my code is rusty - I haven’t really sent anything in 40 years - and the lack of a functioning decoder irks me.
I am not retired, so my radio experimentation time is limited at best. ?I think my only option at this point is to relegate the X6100 to my second house for infrequent use. ?I wish I had a better solution, but I’ve wasted enough hours trying to get this little
machine to do what it’s supposed to.
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Re: Bad audio report, or RF infiltration?
Bad audio reports and RF infiltration are not the same thing.
TX audio quality should not change from band to band, or with the type antenna used. That said, I have noticed operating portable with dubious antennas that 20 meters becomes unusable with the external mic. Mic settings, ferrite beads on the mic line do not help, but the radio remains functional with the internal mic.
Another factor that will result in TX distorted audio, and will sound very much like RF infiltration on the far end, is low power supply voltage which will often result in FMing on SSB TX. This is common when operating portable from battery power.
Dennis Starks Military-Radio-Guy KB?SFP
On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 08:24:06 AM CST, John A Harris <chirodoc62@...> wrote:
I too use an EFHW w/ my x6100 but have always had good audio reports (and that is with mic gain at 30).? The only difference from your conditions: I put the choke (5 loops through a snap-on ferrite) down the coax from the antenna 5% of the longest wavelength (about 7 feet in your 40M EFHW).? Maybe worth a try?? Good luck, John
On 12/05/2023 7:48 AM EST mikerichart@... wrote:
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I, too, get bad audio reports using SSB, but only on 40 Meters.? I have turned the mic gain down to '10', but it's still an issue.
My thoughts are that it is a common mode problem. I'm using a EFHW antenna with 20 meters (66') of wire. I have a choke inside the shack, and the feed line is properly grounded. 40 Meters is the only band where I have issues. I am able to use FT8 successfully on 40 Meters.
Thoughts?
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I too use an EFHW w/ my x6100 but have always had good audio reports (and that is with mic gain at 30).? The only difference from your conditions: I put the choke (5 loops through a snap-on ferrite) down the coax from the antenna 5% of the longest wavelength (about 7 feet in your 40M EFHW).? Maybe worth a try?? Good luck, John
On 12/05/2023 7:48 AM EST mikerichart@... wrote:
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I, too, get bad audio reports using SSB, but only on 40 Meters.? I have turned the mic gain down to '10', but it's still an issue.
My thoughts are that it is a common mode problem. I'm using a EFHW antenna with 20 meters (66') of wire. I have a choke inside the shack, and the feed line is properly grounded. 40 Meters is the only band where I have issues. I am able to use FT8 successfully on 40 Meters.
Thoughts?
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KD6YKI - Mike
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On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 11:46 PM, Dennis wrote:
I am now wondering if the 6100 will ever perform as advertised. I'm thinking it's time to quit wasting my time messing with it and go on to something else.
Even I am having these thoughts more and more often!
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I concur with Dennis. ?I’m a relatively new owner, but this little radio is infuriating. ?Touted features don’t work. ?My X6100 will connect to WiFi at my vacation home but not my home QTH. ?I’m considering buying a code reader because my code is rusty - I haven’t really sent anything in 40 years - and the lack of a functioning decoder irks me.
I am not retired, so my radio experimentation time is limited at best. ?I think my only option at this point is to relegate the X6100 to my second house for infrequent use. ?I wish I had a better solution, but I’ve wasted enough hours trying to get this little machine to do what it’s supposed to.
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For the X6100, I have found the firmware done by R1CBU to be good. R!CBU has been making incremental improvements. Problems and bugs are fixed in a reasonable time. One has to understand that he is one person with other things in his life.
I wish Xiegu would release the source code for the firmware then others could make improvements. Especially, when Xiegu abandons a product. I have found most Chinese manufacturers do the same, make something if it does not work then go to a new thing.
Enjoy Life, Greg
Live Well, Laugh Often, Love Much
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On 12/2/2023 12:01, Dennis via groups.io wrote: I have owned a number of Xiegu products over the years and still own several. I have found something lacking in all of them. This is usually a mater of product support, and nearly always involves software issues. In most cases rather than fix those issues Xiegu has instead opted to just drop the radio and move on to the next. I'm afraid that the X6100 will be a repeat.
I've owned my 6100 going on two months now and I've noticed a number of deviations from the radio's advertised features and it's actual capabilities. Things like CAT control, wifi, blue tooth, CW and PSK decoding, some of which have yet to see any functionality in the radio, other issues that have been addressed but still dont work.
I'm sorry, but I get furious when I pay good money for an item that is advertised with so and so features, and it doesn't have them. Or it does have said features and they just don't work.
I dont know what version of software my X6100 started out with because it locked up after my second use and I had to boot it up with software version 1.5 to get it going again. I noticed right away that the CW and PSK decoding do not work so I upgraded the software to? version 1.7/1.6(CAT fixed). Now, the decoding still does not work, nor dose the squelch or RF gain when in the FM mode.
Xiegu has historically been incapable of writing functioning software for their products. Here we go again with the 6100. Every time they come out with a new version of software for this radio they screw up one feature that was operational in the previous version, or they sacrifice one function all together to make another one work.
I am now wondering if the 6100 will ever perform as advertised. I'm thinking it's time to quit wasting my time messing with it and go on to something else. I still have two G90 which are very good radios and I believe superior to the 6100 at far less expense. In addition I have several no-name USDX radios that had a cost of about $125 that perform at least as well as the X6100. AND they have CW decoders that work!
About now some snotty ham would comment about CW decoders. Well, I'm legally deaf, they help!
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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I, too, get bad audio reports using SSB, but only on 40 Meters.? I have turned the mic gain down to '10', but it's still an issue.
My thoughts are that it is a common mode problem. I'm using a EFHW antenna with 20 meters (66') of wire. I have a choke inside the shack, and the feed line is properly grounded. 40 Meters is the only band where I have issues. I am able to use FT8 successfully on 40 Meters.
Thoughts?
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KD6YKI - Mike
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On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:20 PM, CRY42 wrote:
Followed WiFi Set Up as best I understood, but will not connect
You specified an IP address that is the same as your Mac. If they are online at the same time, it won’t work. On a Mac, your address is provided automatically via DHCP. Enable DHCP in the X6100 to automatically obtain all addresses.
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Re: New radio, heat mitigation
Also see?? for options. Please keep in mind that cooling at the bottom (not the back) is the best option.
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Robert
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Re: New radio, heat mitigation
A repurposed CPU cooler looking at the size of the contact patch and the heatsink tape,
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Pretty pricy for $5-$10 CPU cooler and a bit of plastic
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I bought a couple of packs of 20x20x10mm Heatsinks and a reel of heatsink tape, the heat is radiated across the who back of the X6100, not a small spot as cooled by the linked cooler from ebak
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Peter
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New radio case cooling on ebay?
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Did you simply try turning down the mic gain? Mine too had reports of distorted TX audio. Turning the gain setting down to 13 fixed it.
I've noticed that it is difficult to adjust the internal mic setting. Turning it up too will result to no TX audio at all. Set it too low and again there's not TX audio. I've not yet found the sweet spot setting.
Dennis Starks Military-Radio-Guy KB?SFP
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 02:47:08 PM CST, rene.altena@... <rene.altena@...> wrote:
Hi Group,
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I'm seeking advice on optimal settings for a handheld microphone, particularly for SSB use. The default mic gain is set at 20, but this results in distorted audio. I've tried holding the mic about 10 centimeters from my mouth, which reduces distortion but also lowers power output.
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Additionally, when I key up the mic without modulation, there's significant noise in the signal, and I see the ALC drops from 100 down to 50-60. This seems to happen even in a quiet room, suggesting the mic is picking up some modulation.
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Possible causes I've considered include:
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1. RFI interference in the mic cable causing distortion.
2. The mic gain setting being too high.
3. Incorrect distance from the microphone.
4. Another unidentified issue.
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I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences and solutions for similar issues.
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Note: FT8 mode works flawlessly, so the rig functions well with digital modes. My concern is specifically with SSB.
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Best regards,
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Rene PA2RA
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Hi Group,
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I'm seeking advice on optimal settings for a handheld microphone, particularly for SSB use. The default mic gain is set at 20, but this results in distorted audio. I've tried holding the mic about 10 centimeters from my mouth, which reduces distortion but also lowers power output.
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Additionally, when I key up the mic without modulation, there's significant noise in the signal, and I see the ALC drops from 100 down to 50-60. This seems to happen even in a quiet room, suggesting the mic is picking up some modulation.
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Possible causes I've considered include:
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1. RFI interference in the mic cable causing distortion.
2. The mic gain setting being too high.
3. Incorrect distance from the microphone.
4. Another unidentified issue.
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I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences and solutions for similar issues.
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Note: FT8 mode works flawlessly, so the rig functions well with digital modes. My concern is specifically with SSB.
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Best regards,
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Rene PA2RA
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I have owned a number of Xiegu products over the years and still own several. I have found something lacking in all of them. This is usually a mater of product support, and nearly always involves software issues. In most cases rather than fix those issues Xiegu has instead opted to just drop the radio and move on to the next. I'm afraid that the X6100 will be a repeat.
I've owned my 6100 going on two months now and I've noticed a number of deviations from the radio's advertised features and it's actual capabilities. Things like CAT control, wifi, blue tooth, CW and PSK decoding, some of which have yet to see any functionality in the radio, other issues that have been addressed but still dont work.
I'm sorry, but I get furious when I pay good money for an item that is advertised with so and so features, and it doesn't have them. Or it does have said features and they just don't work.
I dont know what version of software my X6100 started out with because it locked up after my second use and I had to boot it up with software version 1.5 to get it going again. I noticed right away that the CW and PSK decoding do not work so I upgraded the software to? version 1.7/1.6(CAT fixed). Now, the decoding still does not work, nor dose the squelch or RF gain when in the FM mode.
Xiegu has historically been incapable of writing functioning software for their products. Here we go again with the 6100. Every time they come out with a new version of software for this radio they screw up one feature that was operational in the previous version, or they sacrifice one function all together to make another one work.
I am now wondering if the 6100 will ever perform as advertised. I'm thinking it's time to quit wasting my time messing with it and go on to something else. I still have two G90 which are very good radios and I believe superior to the 6100 at far less expense. In addition I have several no-name USDX radios that had a cost of about $125 that perform at least as well as the X6100. AND they have CW decoders that work!
About now some snotty ham would comment about CW decoders. Well, I'm legally deaf, they help!
Dennis Starks Military-Radio-Guy KB?SFP
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I have owned a number of Xiegu products over the years and still own several. I have found something lacking in all of them. This is usually a mater of product support, and nearly always involves software issues. In most cases rather than fix those issues Xiegu has instead opted to just drop the radio and move on to the next. I'm afraid that the X6100 will be a repeat.
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I've owned my 6100 going on two months now and I've noticed a number of deviations from the radio's advertised features and it's actual capabilities. Things like CAT control, wifi, blue tooth, CW and PSK decoding, some of which have yet to see any functionality in the radio, other issues that have been addressed but still dont work.
?
I'm sorry, but I get furious when I pay good money for an item that is advertised with so and so features, and it doesn't have them. Or it does have said features and they just don't work.
?
I dont know what version of software my X6100 started out with because it locked up after my second use and I had to boot it up with software version 1.5 to get it going again. I noticed right away that the CW and PSK decoding do not work so I upgraded the software to? version 1.7/1.6(CAT fixed). Now, the decoding still does not work, nor dose the squelch or RF gain when in the FM mode.
?
Xiegu has historically been incapable of writing functioning software for their products. Here we go again with the 6100. Every time they come out with a new version of software for this radio they screw up one feature that was operational in the previous version, or they sacrifice one function all together to make another one work.
?
I am now wondering if the 6100 will ever perform as advertised. I'm thinking it's time to quit wasting my time messing with it and go on to something else. I still have two G90 which are very good radios and I believe superior to the 6100 at far less expense. In addition I have several no-name USDX radios that had a cost of about $125 that perform at least as well as the X6100. AND they have CW decoders that work!
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About now some snotty ham would comment about CW decoders. Well, I'm legally deaf, they help!
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Dennis Starks Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Hello:
Updated with new software.
Followed WiFi Set Up as best I understood, but will not connect.
Not for certain what should be in Gateway ?
Have two WiFi Networks, set up on X6100, assume one can choose between them?
JPEGS of MacOS WiFI and x6199 screen attached.
Any suggestions or directions ?
Thanks
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Peter M0PWX
John Claridge 2E0JJC
CRY42
