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Re: thanks for using XEphem
I can understand your reasons.? Personally, I disliked the Motif GUI Personally, I am a ham, and watched OSCAR satellites, but I found the Thanks for the program, anyway. Doug, VK3KDI, |
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thanks for using XEphem
Hello everyone, Some of you quickly noticed I recently removed XEphem from my web site. I didn't think there was much interest any longer so I was surprised at the outpouring of everything from anger to grief. It doesn't help that a few people thought they had a right to access XEphem and demanded I put it back up but most of the responses expressed appreciation for past availability and politely wished there might be a way to provide that again. Some of my reasons for pulling it include:
I started XEphem in 1990, based directly on ephem which I started in 1982. I am still surprised that it has enjoyed a wonderful 26 year run. I'm also honored that it is in use at every professional observatory with which I have had contact. I also acknowledge the many contributions over the years that helped the program mature. But the fact remains it is growing less and less viable. Some suggest that I provide XEphem as Open Source. I fully understand how that can lead to perpetual growth, but you must understand XEphem is my "baby" and I just can not release it to the wilds. The ownership of XEphem will follow me to the grave. Writing this note has allowed me to reminisce in my mind all the many events surrounding XEphem over the past several decades. I can understand how those of you who have used it for many years will also miss it. So I have resurrected most of the XEphem web site, including a page for downloading all the source code and data sets. There is no longer a commercial edition, I offer no support and I do not expect to make any future updates but of course no one can foretell the future. Best wishes to all... and thanks for using XEphem. Sincerely, Elwood Downey |
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Re: libXp removed from Debian
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi!
This is may be the solution: How to Compile XEphem on Debian Linux Works fine, with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and Debian 8. Regards, Harald
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Re: libXp removed from Debian
Greetings from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico, I just checked the clearsky institute web page today and Feel really bad about the last update on the xephem, it's no longer available??!!!? What happend? Eric De La Cruz Lugo External consultant at Planetario Arcadio Poveda Ricalde Centro Cultural Olimpo Merida, Yucatan, Mexico.
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Re: libXp removed from Debian
Mike Mayer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI confirmed that Serge¡¯s minimum XLIBS works on cygwin-64 and CentOS 7: ? XLIBS = -lXm -lXt -lX11 ? ? From: xephem@... [mailto:xephem@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:20 PM To: xephem@... Subject: Re: [xephem] Re: libXp removed from Debian ? On 02/24/2016 03:56 PM, 'Elwood C. Downey' ecdowney@... [xephem] wrote: Thanks for the reports. I'm happy to hear the "stock" -lXm is working well these days, especially since Idon't provide one for x86_64. Not shocked to hear -lXp is no longer needed, it's had a long and variedhistory; RIP.?Best to all, and thanks for using XEphem,?Elwood?? Hi Elwood, happy? new year ... a bit late ;-) -- "Man is the lowest-cost, 150-pound, nonlinear, all-purpose computer system which can be mass-produced by unskilled labor." ¡ªNASA in 1965 -------------------------- ? ???Serge Montagnac ? ??? obs-psr@... -------------------------- |
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Re: libXp removed from Debian
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 02/24/2016 03:56 PM, 'Elwood C.
Downey' ecdowney@... [xephem] wrote:
Hi Elwood, happy? new year ... a bit late ;-)Thanks for the reports. I'm happy to hear the "stock" -lXm is working well these days, especially since I don't provide one for x86_64. Not shocked to hear -lXp is no longer needed, it's had a long and varied history; RIP. Best to all, and thanks for using XEphem, Elwood If you want to know my minimum XLIBS line, for a [Mageia-5? x86_64] up to date. Best regards, Serge. # for linux and Apple OS X CC = gcc CLDFLAGS = -g CFLAGS = $(LIBINC) $(CLDFLAGS) -O2 -Wall -I$(MOTIFI) -I/opt/X11/include LDFLAGS = $(LIBLNK) $(CLDFLAGS) -L$(MOTIFL) -L/opt/X11/lib #XLIBS = -lXm -lXp -lXt -lXext -lXmu -lX11 XLIBS = -lXm -lXt -lX11 and resulted links... [root@darkstar xephem]# ldd xephem ??????? linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffe8fd19000) ??????? libXm.so.4 => /lib64/libXm.so.4 (0x00007f0399eda000) ??????? libXt.so.6 => /lib64/libXt.so.6 (0x00007f0399c72000) ??????? libX11.so.6 => /lib64/libX11.so.6 (0x00007f0399932000) ??????? libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007f039962c000) ??????? libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0399278000) ??????? libXext.so.6 => /lib64/libXext.so.6 (0x00007f0399066000) ??????? libfontconfig.so.1 => /lib64/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00007f0398e28000) ??????? libXp.so.6 => /lib64/libXp.so.6 (0x00007f0398c1f000) ??????? libXft.so.2 => /lib64/libXft.so.2 (0x00007f0398a09000) ??????? libjpeg.so.8 => /lib64/libjpeg.so.8 (0x00007f03987b3000) ??????? libpng16.so.16 => /lib64/libpng16.so.16 (0x00007f0398558000) ??????? libSM.so.6 => /lib64/libSM.so.6 (0x00007f0398350000) ??????? libICE.so.6 => /lib64/libICE.so.6 (0x00007f0398133000) ??????? libxcb.so.1 => /lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007f0397f13000) ??????? libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f0397d0f000) ??????? /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f039a3a7000) ??????? libfreetype.so.6 => /lib64/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00007f0397a77000) ??????? libxml2.so.2 => /lib64/libxml2.so.2 (0x00007f0397710000) ??????? libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f03974f4000) ??????? libXau.so.6 => /lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x00007f03972f0000) ??????? libXrender.so.1 => /lib64/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007f03970e6000) ??????? libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007f0396ecb000) ??????? libuuid.so.1 => /lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007f0396cc6000) ??????? libXdmcp.so.6 => /lib64/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007f0396ac0000) ??????? libbz2.so.1 => /lib64/libbz2.so.1 (0x00007f03968b0000) ??????? liblzma.so.5 => /lib64/liblzma.so.5 (0x00007f039667e000) --
"Man is the lowest-cost, 150-pound, nonlinear, all-purpose computer
system which can be mass-produced by unskilled labor."
¡ªNASA in 1965
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Serge Montagnac
obs-psr@...
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Re: libXp removed from Debian
Elwood C. Downey
Thanks for the reports. I'm happy to hear the "stock" -lXm is working well these days, especially since I
don't provide one for x86_64. Not shocked to hear -lXp is no longer needed, it's had a long and varied history; RIP. Best to all, and thanks for using XEphem, Elwood |
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Re: libXp removed from Debian
Mike Mayer
Excellent! Works for Cygwin-64 as well.
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From: xephem@... [mailto:xephem@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:24 AM To: xephem@... Subject: Re: [xephem] Re: libXp removed from Debian 'Elwood C. Downey' ecdowney@... [xephem] writes: Hi Akkana,Sure enough! If I remove -lXp from XLIBS in the Makefile, xephem-3.7.7 compiles and runs using the Motif that's in Debian. It doesn't compile with the Motif shipped with XEphem. In other words, this does not work: $ make MOTIF=../../libXm/linux86 This does work, on Debian Sid (after editing the Makefile) and it also works on Debian Jessie (stable): $ sudo apt-get install libmotif-common libmotif-dev $ make I haven't tested much, just verified that it runs on both Debian versions and shows a few of the basic windows. But if there were any hidden dependencies I hope it would have given a warning at link time. It would be interesting to hear if removing -lXp works on other distros. ...Akkana ------------------------------------ Posted by: Akkana Peck <akk@...> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links |
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Re: libXp removed from Debian
Hi, I'm bulding pakages for debian/ubuntu (see *.debian.tar.gz at ) and linking only to XLIBS = -lXm -lXt -lX11 instead of XLIBS = -lXm -lXp -lXt -lXext -lXmu -lX11 becouse debian bulid tool says that some linked libs are not used at all. regards, -- ???ukasz Sanocki |
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Re: libXp removed from Debian
'Elwood C. Downey' ecdowney@... [xephem] writes:
Hi Akkana,Sure enough! If I remove -lXp from XLIBS in the Makefile, xephem-3.7.7 compiles and runs using the Motif that's in Debian. It doesn't compile with the Motif shipped with XEphem. In other words, this does not work: $ make MOTIF=../../libXm/linux86 This does work, on Debian Sid (after editing the Makefile) and it also works on Debian Jessie (stable): $ sudo apt-get install libmotif-common libmotif-dev $ make I haven't tested much, just verified that it runs on both Debian versions and shows a few of the basic windows. But if there were any hidden dependencies I hope it would have given a warning at link time. It would be interesting to hear if removing -lXp works on other distros. ...Akkana |
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libXp removed from Debian
Just a heads-up for anyone building XEphem on Debian: Debian
unstable ("Sid") and testing ("stretch") have removed the libxp6 package that used to provide libXp.so. Here is the bug tracking that (apparently they've been planning to remove it for years): The XEphem source comes with a static copy of Motif (libXm), though it's always built fine with the version available in Debian, but it doesn't come with a copy of libXp. Someone suggested snapshot.debian.org to me as a possible place to get a copy of the libxp6 source and build it locally; I'll look into that eventually and report back. But for now, there is no straightforward way to get XEphem working on any Debian newer than Jessie. Elwood, what does XEphem use libXp.so for? I'm wondering if it's something I could just comment out locally if it's something I don't use. ...Akkana |
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THIS IS NOT A ROLL CALL!
John Perry
Hello Everyone!
My apologies for not having addressed this flood sooner! I've been away from the computer. THERE IS NO NEED TO REPLY TO THIS LIST! All I was suggesting is that you may wish to verify that the email address you use to subscribe to the list is can be replied to. Someone may wish to contact you off-list and if the email address can't be replied t then it creates a problem. This is NOT a roll call! My apologies for the confusion. -- John Perry |
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Re: I'm still here.
John Perry
On 12/18/2015 7:48 AM, Lamar Owen lowen@... wrote:
Ah, found it.My apologies for not having addressed this flood sooner! I've been away from the computer. THERE IS NO NEED TO REPLY TO THIS LIST! All I was suggesting is that you may wish to verify that the email address you use to subscribe to the list is can be replied to. Someone may wish to contact you off-list and if the email address can't be replied t then it creates a problem. This is NOT a roll call! My apologies for the confusion. -- John Perry |
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Re: I'm still here.
OK, well I'm here too.
- Wayde ________________________________________ From: xephem@... [xephem@...] Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 6:48 AM To: xephem@... Subject: Re: [xephem] I'm still here. Ah, found it. Don, John Perry requested confirmation of e-mail addresses in a message in the XEphem 3.7.7 under Mac OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) thread, but the request was a bit buried (and since I run XEphem on Linux, I was pretty much ignoring that thread (I have the group set to gateway to my e-mail address, and I read my inbox in Thunderbird in Conversation (Threaded) mode). And then I see all these messages about 'I'm Still Here' and similar, and wondered what was gong on. Here's the text of what John said, in case you didn't see it there (like me): From: John Perry I'm the owner/moderator of the XEphem mailing list. I would like to invite everyone that is subscribed to the list to please verify the email address you used to sign up with the list is current and active. Thanks! == John Perry End quote. On 12/18/2015 01:33 AM, Don Dossa don.dossa@... [xephem] wrote: Is someone going to cull the group membership? |
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Re: I'm still here.
I have a feeling it's more, check you are using the same email address as when you registered so you know you can post - rather than reply to everyone. For example, I've been lurking on here for years but rarely post - but have checked that I'm still subscribed rather than posing to everyone (except for now that is) Peter Was wondering the same thing...... and I'm still around here, too..... |