Earlier Version of Fldigi
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I am trying to run version 4.2.0.6 on windows 11.?
It will not work as there is no sound input.
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I have tried different combinations with the sound devices and nothing helps.
I would like to install an earlier version.
Is there an archive of the earlier versions?
Can you point me to them?
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thanks
Ken
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开云体育Hi Ken,I see you are struggling with IC-7300 sound settings for fldigi in windoze 11. I run that here with several other rigs and devices attached, so I know that the latest version will work. Your problem is most likely with the windoze sound system, not fldigi. You need to do the following: Close fldigi, make sure all your sound devices except the IC-7300 are turned off or unplugged, then: In the system settings (from a right click on the start icon) select System, then System, then Sound. Go all the way to the bottom in the Advanced section and click on the "More Sound Settings" icon on the far right. You will see a pop-up panel that looks something like the screen shot below except that all of the USB CODEC entries will just say something like "2- USB CODEC" depending on how many sound devices you have loaded. Switch to the Recording Tab as shown in the screen shot below. Make sure your 7300 is on and tuned to a strong signal. You should see the VU bars beside the USB CODEC device bars (they may be varying up and down) show green like this: A. If you don't see this: You need to delete the driver and unplug your radio USB cable. Leave the radio unplugged for now. Download the 7300 family driver from the ICOM website and follow the install instructions exactly. Don't leave your 7300 attached to USB port while you do this! After the ICOM provided driver is loaded, then plug in your radio. You should now see a "#- USB Audio CODEC" device show up and if your rig is tuned to a signal, the VU bars should be responding. B. If you do see an active device: The green bars should be reacting that is the one (if all of the other audio devices attached are quiet). Write the full name down. Start fldigi then open the Config Dialog, navigate to Soundcard, then Devices. Select PortAudio and select the same device you wrote down for both the Capture and Playback pulldowns. You should see something like this (without the friendly names): If you get that far, write me if you need additional help getting the sound levels set for transmit and receive. I can also help you with setting the "Friendly Names". The advanced sound panel in the first example is your friend and it is powerful. If you click on a device in it, you will have the maximum amount of control over your sound devices that Windoze 11 will give you. Use it with care. 73 --
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开云体育Ken,Sorry to be of no help. My entire point was to suggest that check over the Windows driver and sound settings in Windows 11 and verify. I was pretty sure that you know fldigi but included my comments at the end for completeness (and for others who are not as knowledgeable). Using the "first level" sound controls in Win11 system settings often led me (and others) astray until I got down to the inner working control panel. At least double check into the Advanced Setting Sound device configuration panel I've illustrated. If you see the little VU indicator on the right of your device moving up and down, the 7300 is configured and fldigi is not seeing the correct interface. If I did not say it before, don't use the windows mixer or any non "USB Audio CODEC" devices. If you are not seeing a device there, two possibilities exist: - You need to make sure a working driver is properly loaded and configured in Windows 11 - You need to make sure your USB cable is not a "charging only" cable - (I only use a high quality USB cable with ferrite molded on - or with a couple of clip on ferrites at each end). If you have checked those two items and the audio works with other programs, I can't suggest anything else to try for 7300. If you get that far, make sure the 7300 USB audio CODEC is not checked as either a Primary or Communications sound interface! Good luck and God Bless, 73 Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo Parkton, MD On 2/5/2025 4:26 PM, Ken Smith via
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Jack,?
?This is what I have in the sound settings.
The water fall doesn't have any noise or signal displayed unless I bring up the signal levels in the bottom left panes. Then I can see an in coming signal to?
pick on. Then the signal in the right side of the water fall will show up in green.? I just discovered this.
In windows 10 I usually have those signal levels at 20 and 40.? In windows 11, I have to raise them really high for even noise to show up in the WF.
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开云体育
Ken,
I am a little concerned your default sound devices are the audio codecs. This can result in system noises being transmitted over the air.
73 Phil GM3ZZA
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Smith via groups.io <kls235@...>
Sent: 06 February 2025 1:26 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Earlier Version of Fldigi ?
Jack,?
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开云体育Hi Ken.Dell laptop or desktop? Looks to me like you need to set your Microphone Array as the default microphone device (not the Microphone 2-USB Audio CODEC) and the Realtek Audio Speakers as your default device (right click on the ones to set as default and select). I found that fldigi doesn't like it. You probably know from past Windows versions that you can set the levels by double clicking on the ones you want to adjust, in this case both 2-USB Audio CODEC devices. In the 2-USB Audio CODEC settings pop-up: Make sure on? the? Enhancements tab that everything is disabled Make sure on the Advanced tab that "Allow appllications" and "Give exclusive" boxes are checked. You may need to shut down fldigi then restart it to get it "talking" to the drivers. BTW - I set my Playback sound device at MAX and adjust the TX drive in fldigi by setting the dB indicator (bottom right area) to -24 to get the right TX level. Make sure you save configuration in fldigi after you get it right. Another hint: If you get it talking, check these setting in your "top level" sound settings to see if they match mine: Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo Parkton, MD On 2/6/2025 10:53 AM, Ken Smith via
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开云体育Hi Ken,Great to see there is progress! I am not familiar with the ASUS laptops. My fldigi setup uses the Upper Signal Level setting at -5dB and the Signal range at 80dB. Where you show -47dB and 51dB respectively. I am pretty sure you need a wider Signal range (that is dynamic range I think). The -47 dB setting on mine totally fills my screen with dark orange-red hash. What is your Windows Input Volume level setting for 2-USB Audio CODEC? Mine is set to 50%. Interested to know about that. If it is all the way up to maximum, something else is going on in the signal path. A SWAG: Some RealTek and Microsoft sound device implementations have a system wide output attenuator (IIRC a mixer setting, the headphone ear protection setting, or something like that) if you find that sort of thing, make sure it is not turned on. Have you tried transmitting yet? What is your Windows Output Volume level setting for 2-USB Audio CODEC? Mine is set to 100%. In the later case, I control the sound level by dialing back the fldigi Tx Level Attenuator to -24dB with my 7300 is set for 100% power. That combination yields about 35 - 40W out with a minimal (nil) ALC reading. When I drive my amplifier, I dial back even farther to about -28db - that gives me a clean 350 - 400W out. Hope we can help get you to the next step. Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo Parkton, MD On 2/6/2025 8:34 PM, Ken Smith via
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Greg Tillman N4VAD
Run that -47? value to around -10 and the right number to 60 N4VAD On Thu, Feb 6, 2025, 20:34 Ken Smith via <kls235=[email protected]> wrote:
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Jack,?
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I found that the Microphone Array? Reltek Audio volume was set to around 25%. I brought it up to 100% and lowered the Signal range and upper signal level values.? And now (which I don't like) is the 7300 speaker volume also effects the water fall signal level.?
So the radio volume is too loud. When I transit, the sound comes out the laptop speakers. The laptop microphone picks up back ground sound and I see it on the water fall.
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I believe the only way to remedy all these problems is to install windows 10.
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The windows Input volume for 2-USB Audio CODEC is at 100%.
I set it 50% but didn't have effect on signal in the water fall.
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开云体育Hi Ken,At this point I am baffled. I have no such issues in Windows 11 with any of my 3 primary radios on an MSI "gamer" desktop box. It sounds to me like you are picking up receive audio through the microphone array and that is what you are seeing on the fldigi waterfall. I have seen both Win 10 and Win 11 "mislabel" the sound devices (on other laptops) do that in spite of what the device labels said they were. Most times I could find the real drivers and use them in programs I needed them in. In those cases I could not, I have had to completely de-install fldigi, ALL sound devices, and the "Virtual COM Ports", unplug every thing, then let Windows find its primary sound drivers for the laptop's built in hardware, then reinstall the rig COM port driver, then go back and reconfigure fldigi from the ground up. This happened on an older HP laptop (Win 10) and a new "generic" big-box store laptop (Win 11). I have not played with the ASUS equipment since I got burned back in the Windows 8 days by several of their BT dongle drivers that played absolute havoc with what I was trying to do at the time. The main culprit was a piece of the BT driver system that overrode the internals in Windows and would not let go of some of the hardware that I needed access to. It was impossible to de-install, so I had to back up all the data and wipe the drive and reinstall Windows. I am sorry I can't be of more help. Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo Parkton, MD On 2/7/2025 4:20 PM, Ken Smith via
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Ken Smith
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Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ)
Philip Rose
