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Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)


John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash.


 

Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via groups.io <tkertoy@...> wrote:

Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)


John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash.






 

Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io
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Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via groups.io <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
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> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
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If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous.
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:42 AM John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via
<pruitg=[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
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> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
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Yeah, let’s go! Just like the old days with Landon! The modifying monkeys versus the stock purists. Come on people, let’s feed these flames!



On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:22 PM, bruce parks <b.w.parks@...> wrote:

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If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous.
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:42 AM John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via
<pruitg=[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
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> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
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Nice pics. This is mine





On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:32 PM, Benjamin Deasis
<bens33ford@...> wrote:
Yeah, let’s go! Just like the old days with Landon! The modifying monkeys versus the stock purists. Come on people, let’s feed these flames!



On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:22 PM, bruce parks <b.w.parks@...> wrote:

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If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous.
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:42 AM John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via
<pruitg=[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
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> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
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> Graham, Wash.

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I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?

Skip


 

This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world. When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance. Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way. If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon. Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?

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Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
<pavelb@...> wrote:
This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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Nice Back pedal John!

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’53 Pickup

Gilbert, MN

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Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

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John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash

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On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230

<pavelb@...> wrote:

This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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More like you, John.
However, they could have picked a junker.
Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.
Pruit

On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy@...> wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
<pavelb@...> wrote:
This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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I'm not getting lost but I'm not sure about some of my stuff. From August of 1986 until October of 2019 I knew where everything was in my 600 sq ft shop. Now I have more than 1500 sq ft of shop and I'm still wandering around wondering where I put certain tools. The 2 propane furnaces sure make working out there comfortable during the cold Washington winter. Plus the upstairs reloading room has a flat screen, blu-ray, coffee maker and 1/2 bath. Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. ;-)

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io
<pruitg@...> wrote:
More like you, John.
However, they could have picked a junker.
Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.
Pruit

On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy@...> wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
<pavelb@...> wrote:
This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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Classification: Public

Whoh Whoh, my wagon was in the Kaiser Willys calendar for 2022, specifically December 2021.? ?

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Todd

1950 Willys Wagon, Cream Soda. . .


 

that picture in the calendar is just so cool.? i have a '62 wagon which is pretty much original.? added seat belts for when my grands are on board and have a conversion for electronic ignition that hasn't been installed yet.? i perk up anytime i see one,
stock or modified.? might be noted, in my neck of the woods (southern new jersey) seeing one is a pretty rare thing.

On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 04:11:02 PM EST, Jones, Todd <tej2@...> wrote:


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Whoh Whoh, my wagon was in the Kaiser Willys calendar for 2022, specifically December 2021.? ?

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1950 Willys Wagon, Cream Soda. . .


 

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Sounds like you spend your time upstairs after giving up on the tool search. ?Not bad!

On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:10 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy@...> wrote:

I'm not getting lost but I'm not sure about some of my stuff. From August of 1986 until October of 2019 I knew where everything was in my 600 sq ft shop. Now I have more than 1500 sq ft of shop and I'm still wandering around wondering where I put certain tools. The 2 propane furnaces sure make working out there comfortable during the cold Washington winter. Plus the upstairs reloading room has a flat screen, blu-ray, coffee maker and 1/2 bath. Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. ;-)

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via?
<pruitg@...> wrote:
More like you, John.
However, they could have picked a junker.
Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.
Pruit

On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via??<tkertoy@...> wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
<pavelb@...> wrote:
This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:41 PM, m w
<hp9@...> wrote:
Nice pics. This is mine





On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:32 PM, Benjamin Deasis
<bens33ford@...> wrote:
Yeah, let’s go! Just like the old days with Landon! The modifying monkeys versus the stock purists. Come on people, let’s feed these flames!



On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:22 PM, bruce parks <b.w.parks@...> wrote:

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If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous.
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:42 AM John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via
<pruitg=[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
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> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
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SF
On 1/27/2022 12:21 PM, John Barrett via groups.io wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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Agreed.? Mine was a restromod. Sold before I finished it. I still see he around town. Since, my '72 Chevelle sucked a piston.? Hmmmm, seems like a build 454 is in the works. I have no issues with simple mods. I have no issue with radical mods.? Just do them right


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On 1/27/2022 2:10 PM, John Barrett via groups.io wrote:

I'm not getting lost but I'm not sure about some of my stuff. From August of 1986 until October of 2019 I knew where everything was in my 600 sq ft shop. Now I have more than 1500 sq ft of shop and I'm still wandering around wondering where I put certain tools. The 2 propane furnaces sure make working out there comfortable during the cold Washington winter. Plus the upstairs reloading room has a flat screen, blu-ray, coffee maker and 1/2 bath. Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. ;-)

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io
More like you, John.
However, they could have picked a junker.
Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.
Pruit

On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy@...> wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
<pavelb@...> wrote:
This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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Funny you should mention that Pavel. About 20 years ago I drove a friends Willys wagon that had the 4.3 V6 & AT from a Chevy Astro van. It was 2WD and the motor was carbureted, but in my opinion it was an awesome match for the Willys as no firewall modification was needed. FF 10 years and I bumped into a totaled 2000 Chevy Blazer with the fuel injected 4.3, AT, 4WD. It took a while but the engine & AT were eventually rebuilt and now reside in a crate in the barn. Not for sale, but waiting for the next one as the new super hurricane 226 in my pickup runs too good to even consider swapping out.? ??

One of the many foibles of my youth that still haunts me to this day was going separate ways with my '66 Commando with the 225 V6.? Alas, I lived in Fairbanks AK, had limited funds, it had no heater & I was dating a girl that thought heat more important than me?Emoji

And since we are talking about mods, my '61 also has the split windshield instead of the original 1 piece. At the time I restored it the sole manufacturer of the one piece curved windshield was in Brazil. The US and Brazil were bickering over some very important yet now forgotten issue and the import of Brazilian goods was temporarily interrupted. So I downgraded to the 2-piece to put the truck back on the road.??

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Skip,

I also downgraded to a 2 piece windshield in our wagon . ?The 1 piece replacement was a bit too dear for my pocket book at the time. ?Many owners think the 2 piece looks better... once again a matter of taste.

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On 2022-01-28, at 6:13 AM, Skip Owens via groups.io wrote:

Funny you should mention that Pavel. About 20 years ago I drove a friends Willys wagon that had the 4.3 V6 & AT from a Chevy Astro van. It was 2WD and the motor was carbureted, but in my opinion it was an awesome match for the Willys as no firewall modification was needed. FF 10 years and I bumped into a totaled 2000 Chevy Blazer with the fuel injected 4.3, AT, 4WD. It took a while but the engine & AT were eventually rebuilt and now reside in a crate in the barn. Not for sale, but waiting for the next one as the new super hurricane 226 in my pickup runs too good to even consider swapping out.? ??

One of the many foibles of my youth that still haunts me to this day was going separate ways with my '66 Commando with the 225 V6.? Alas, I lived in Fairbanks AK, had limited funds, it had no heater & I was dating a girl that thought heat more important than me?Emoji

And since we are talking about mods, my '61 also has the split windshield instead of the original 1 piece. At the time I restored it the sole manufacturer of the one piece curved windshield was in Brazil. The US and Brazil were bickering over some very important yet now forgotten issue and the import of Brazilian goods was temporarily interrupted. So I downgraded to the 2-piece to put the truck back on the road.??

Skip?