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Buick 225/231 front axle clearance


Chuck Pedretti
 

A question for those of you with factory and repower Buick V6's in your
CJ's. How much clearance do you have between the crank pulley and axle
pumpkin. A picture of mine is at http:\\staff.magenic.com\chuckp\engine.htm
at the bottom (note the custom oak tierod :) I am running a 2.5" lift and
was suprised at how close to the axle the pully is. It probabally won't hit
but I though I'd check to see what is normal.

Got my 2nd hand AA engine mounts and they look great as long as the part
which mounts to the frame is inverted.



_________________________________
Chuck Pedretti MCSD, MCSE
Consultant
Magenic Technologies
mailto:chuckp@...
_________________________________

(46 CJ)
_________________________________


Bill Lagler
 

Chuck Pedretti wrote:

From: Chuck Pedretti <ChuckP@...>

A question for those of you with factory and repower Buick V6's in your
CJ's. How much clearance do you have between the crank pulley and axle
pumpkin. A picture of mine is at http:&#92;&#92;staff.magenic.com&#92;chuckp&#92;engine.htm
at the bottom (note the custom oak tierod :) I am running a 2.5" lift and
was suprised at how close to the axle the pully is. It probabally won't hit
but I though I'd check to see what is normal.

Got my 2nd hand AA engine mounts and they look great as long as the part
which mounts to the frame is inverted.
I'll try to get some measurements from both of mine tonight.

Bill
47cj2a


Chuck Pedretti
 

I wish I'd measured mine while it was in. I stuck it in temporarily to get
the motor mount locations marked, took some pictures but forgot to take out
the tape measure.

_________________________________
Chuck Pedretti MCSD, MCSE
Consultant
Magenic Technologies
mailto:chuckp@...
_________________________________

(46 CJ)
_________________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lagler [mailto:wbl@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 6:51 AM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Buick 225/231 front axle clearance


From: Bill Lagler <wbl@...>

Chuck Pedretti wrote:

From: Chuck Pedretti <ChuckP@...>

A question for those of you with factory and repower Buick V6's in
your
CJ's. How much clearance do you have between the crank pulley and
axle
pumpkin. A picture of mine is at
http:&#92;&#92;staff.magenic.com&#92;chuckp&#92;engine.htm
at the bottom (note the custom oak tierod :) I am running
a 2.5" lift
and
was suprised at how close to the axle the pully is. It probabally
won't hit
but I though I'd check to see what is normal.

Got my 2nd hand AA engine mounts and they look great as long as the
part
which mounts to the frame is inverted.
I'll try to get some measurements from both of mine tonight.

Bill
47cj2a
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Bill Lagler
 

Chuck,

Both my CJ2A and CJ5 have the V6 mounted in the same location
relative to the front axle, both are using Jeep 225 oil filter
mounts. I don't think there is any way the front axle could
ever hit the oil filter, oil pump, pulley or any other part
of the engine. On my CJ2A I did lower the front axle snubbers
by 1" but this was to reduce tire/fender rubbing when crossed up
not because of engine clearance. Engine location in the 2A is
as follows: front to back, from the front face of the harmonic
balancer (the surface the pulley bolt on to) to the rear surface
of the front crossmember is 9". Up and down, if you lay a
straight edge across the top of the fenders it will also rest
on the top of the valve covers at the front of the engine. I
forgot to check side to side (I can measure if you want) but
it's not centered, offset to the drivers side for drive shaft
clearance. Positioned like this the drivers side valve cover
will be right against the corner of the firewall. I reshaped,
(read hammer work), the firewall for clearance. This firewall
mod is the same thing the factory did to the CJ5 when they put
in the V6.

Bill
47cj2a

Chuck Pedretti wrote:


From: "Chuck Pedretti" <chuckp@...>

I wish I'd measured mine while it was in. I stuck it in temporarily to get
the motor mount locations marked, took some pictures but forgot to take out
the tape measure.

_________________________________
Chuck Pedretti MCSD, MCSE
Consultant
Magenic Technologies
mailto:chuckp@...
_________________________________

(46 CJ)
_________________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lagler [mailto:wbl@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 6:51 AM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Buick 225/231 front axle clearance


From: Bill Lagler <wbl@...>

Chuck Pedretti wrote:

From: Chuck Pedretti <ChuckP@...>

A question for those of you with factory and repower Buick V6's in
your
CJ's. How much clearance do you have between the crank pulley and
axle
pumpkin. A picture of mine is at
http:&#92;&#92;staff.magenic.com&#92;chuckp&#92;engine.htm
at the bottom (note the custom oak tierod :) I am running
a 2.5" lift
and
was suprised at how close to the axle the pully is. It probabally
won't hit
but I though I'd check to see what is normal.

Got my 2nd hand AA engine mounts and they look great as long as the
part
which mounts to the frame is inverted.
I'll try to get some measurements from both of mine tonight.

Bill
47cj2a


Chuck Pedretti
 

Thanks for the info - I will need to check my front to back distance among
other things. I have lots of valve cover clearance so I may need to move
the trans crossmember back closer to the stock location.

I'm hoping I don't have to uncenter my engine because this is the only way
the stock steering box will fit. (Plan to go to saginaw at some point but
I'd like to get it all together sometime this year).

Another possibility may be switching pulleys, the stock 231 pulley has 3
belt grooves and is fairly long - if I can use a shorter one the problem
will go partially away. (Only need one belt anyway)


Thanks

_________________________________
Chuck Pedretti MCSD, MCSE
Consultant
Magenic Technologies
mailto:chuckp@...
_________________________________

(46 CJ)
_________________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lagler [mailto:wbl@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 7:23 AM
To: WillysTech@...
Cc: Chuck Pedretti
Subject: Re: [WT] Buick 225/231 front axle clearance


Chuck,

Both my CJ2A and CJ5 have the V6 mounted in the same location
relative to the front axle, both are using Jeep 225 oil filter
mounts. I don't think there is any way the front axle could
ever hit the oil filter, oil pump, pulley or any other part
of the engine. On my CJ2A I did lower the front axle snubbers
by 1" but this was to reduce tire/fender rubbing when crossed up
not because of engine clearance. Engine location in the 2A is
as follows: front to back, from the front face of the harmonic
balancer (the surface the pulley bolt on to) to the rear surface
of the front crossmember is 9". Up and down, if you lay a
straight edge across the top of the fenders it will also rest
on the top of the valve covers at the front of the engine. I
forgot to check side to side (I can measure if you want) but
it's not centered, offset to the drivers side for drive shaft
clearance. Positioned like this the drivers side valve cover
will be right against the corner of the firewall. I reshaped,
(read hammer work), the firewall for clearance. This firewall
mod is the same thing the factory did to the CJ5 when they put
in the V6.

Bill
47cj2a

Chuck Pedretti wrote:

From: "Chuck Pedretti" <chuckp@...>

I wish I'd measured mine while it was in. I stuck it in temporarily
to get
the motor mount locations marked, took some pictures but forgot to
take out
the tape measure.

_________________________________
Chuck Pedretti MCSD, MCSE
Consultant
Magenic Technologies
mailto:chuckp@...
_________________________________

(46 CJ)
_________________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lagler [mailto:wbl@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 6:51 AM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Buick 225/231 front axle clearance


From: Bill Lagler <wbl@...>

Chuck Pedretti wrote:

From: Chuck Pedretti <ChuckP@...>

A question for those of you with factory and repower
Buick V6's in
your
CJ's. How much clearance do you have between the crank
pulley and
axle
pumpkin. A picture of mine is at
http:&#92;&#92;staff.magenic.com&#92;chuckp&#92;engine.htm
at the bottom (note the custom oak tierod :) I am running
a 2.5" lift
and
was suprised at how close to the axle the pully is. It
probabally
won't hit
but I though I'd check to see what is normal.

Got my 2nd hand AA engine mounts and they look great as long as
the
part
which mounts to the frame is inverted.
I'll try to get some measurements from both of mine tonight.

Bill
47cj2a


Bill Lagler
 

Chuck Pedretti wrote:

From: "Chuck Pedretti" <chuckp@...>

Thanks for the info - I will need to check my front to back distance among
other things. I have lots of valve cover clearance so I may need to move
the trans crossmember back closer to the stock location.

I'm hoping I don't have to uncenter my engine because this is the only way
the stock steering box will fit. (Plan to go to saginaw at some point but
I'd like to get it all together sometime this year).
I ran mine with the stock steering for a few years before doing the
Saginaw conversion. Everything fits, even with the engine offset to
the drivers side. You just need to copy what the factory did when
they put the V6 in the CJ5. Don't forget to check front driveshaft
clearance.


Another possibility may be switching pulleys, the stock 231 pulley has 3
belt grooves and is fairly long - if I can use a shorter one the problem
will go partially away. (Only need one belt anyway)
2 grooves if you want power steering.

Bill
47cj2a