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Hi Jerry,

The previous owner (or one of 'em) had already done the conversion to my 54
SDDL.

I did get the numbers off of the id tag... it is WEB-B 3.00 GAD 880.

as near as i can tell (from a 1968 FORD shop manual for Cougar/Mustang) it is
probably a 3.00:1 gear ratio, conventional differential (not limited slip) ,
number of teeth - ring:39 pinion:13. I believe that the entire drive train
came from ~66 Mustang .

Hope this helps.


Good Luck, eric
'54 SDDL
'87 XJ


Jerry Stoper
 

Eric
Thanks for the info. My 47 Wagon came with the 289 and C-4 from a 1967 Mustang.
If the rear end is working for you, it will make it easier for me to keep the
entire drive train Mustang. If you had a chance would you run a different ratio
or is the 3:00 ratio good? Seem like it should be pretty good for MPG and 99% of
my driving is highway.

Thanks again,
Jerry Stoper

EOlson8559@... wrote:

From: EOlson8559@...

Hi Jerry,

The previous owner (or one of 'em) had already done the conversion to my 54
SDDL.

I did get the numbers off of the id tag... it is WEB-B 3.00 GAD 880.

as near as i can tell (from a 1968 FORD shop manual for Cougar/Mustang) it is
probably a 3.00:1 gear ratio, conventional differential (not limited slip) ,
number of teeth - ring:39 pinion:13. I believe that the entire drive train
came from ~66 Mustang .

Hope this helps.

Good Luck, eric
'54 SDDL
'87 XJ


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Hi Jerry,.

I am happy with the current setup, if I were to change anything I would go to
a manual tranny. Never have liked automatics, but that's life. The rear end is
a good match for the tranny. If i go manual i may ahve swap the rear.....
dunno we'll see.

good luck, eric
'54 sddl
'87 xj


Dave and Robin Samuelson
 



I did get the numbers off of the id tag... it is WEB-B 3.00 GAD 880.

as near as i can tell (from a 1968 FORD shop manual for Cougar/Mustang) it is
probably a 3.00:1 gear ratio, conventional differential (not limited slip) ,
number of teeth - ring:39 pinion:13. I believe that the entire drive train
came from ~66 Mustang .

Hope this helps.
Well, just a suggestion from the peanut gallery, but - if you could find a true
Ford 9" rear end taht will fit ( or have the clams to get one cut for your
application) then go that route. The various ring and pinion combos available
would be a vast improvement over the 8.8" setup. Plus, they're more durable, and
you should never have a problem with it again. I have one in mt 89 Mustang LX 5.0
and even as hard as I run it, I have never had a problem in 116,000 miles. Change
the diff fluid every other year, and it spins like a clock.
Sammy (There are too many Daves in the list, so I'll use my nickname)


Jerry Stoper
 

Thanks for the additional info. I'm off to the bone yard to find a rear end! The
next step will be to salvage a Mustang II front end to take advantage of the
inproved steering and disk brakes.
Thanks again,
Jerry

EOlson8559@... wrote:

From: EOlson8559@...

Hi Jerry,.

I am happy with the current setup, if I were to change anything I would go to
a manual tranny. Never have liked automatics, but that's life. The rear end is
a good match for the tranny. If i go manual i may ahve swap the rear.....
dunno we'll see.

good luck, eric
'54 sddl
'87 xj

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Jerry Stoper
 

Sammy
Thanks for the additional information. Thats what I'm looking for, info from you guys
who have been there and done that.
Jerry

Dave and Robin Samuelson wrote:

From: Dave and Robin Samuelson <lucky@...>



I did get the numbers off of the id tag... it is WEB-B 3.00 GAD 880.

as near as i can tell (from a 1968 FORD shop manual for Cougar/Mustang) it is
probably a 3.00:1 gear ratio, conventional differential (not limited slip) ,
number of teeth - ring:39 pinion:13. I believe that the entire drive train
came from ~66 Mustang .

Hope this helps.
Well, just a suggestion from the peanut gallery, but - if you could find a true
Ford 9" rear end taht will fit ( or have the clams to get one cut for your
application) then go that route. The various ring and pinion combos available
would be a vast improvement over the 8.8" setup. Plus, they're more durable, and
you should never have a problem with it again. I have one in mt 89 Mustang LX 5.0
and even as hard as I run it, I have never had a problem in 116,000 miles. Change
the diff fluid every other year, and it spins like a clock.
Sammy (There are too many Daves in the list, so I'll use my nickname)

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Jerry,

How are you going to do the front end conversion. Are going to used only the
parts from the salvaged Mustang II or are buying some of the parts else where
? I am interested on doing the same to mine, but the write up I have
guestamates the cost at ~ $2000.00 ( a little steep for me right now). If you
have a better plan , plaes share.

Thanks, eric
'54 SDDL
''87 XJ


Jerry Stoper
 

My plan is to find a Mustang II and cut off the frame about a foot behind the
front suspension. This should give me all the parts I need. I believe this will
give me what the ads show for $2,000. I'll need to check the condition of all
parts and replace anything that's work. Then I'll need to cut off (sorry
restorers) the front part of my Willys frame and weld on the Mustang frame. I'll
have to adjust the width of the Mustang frame to fit. This sounds fairly simple
and maybe I'm too optimistic but this is my game plan. The other member of this
Willys list will let me know quickly if I'm wrong.
Jerry

EOlson8559@... wrote:

From: EOlson8559@...

Jerry,

How are you going to do the front end conversion. Are going to used only the
parts from the salvaged Mustang II or are buying some of the parts else where
? I am interested on doing the same to mine, but the write up I have
guestamates the cost at ~ $2000.00 ( a little steep for me right now). If you
have a better plan , plaes share.

Thanks, eric
'54 SDDL
''87 XJ

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In a message dated 10/22/98 7:53:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
stoper@... writes:

<< Then I'll need to cut off (sorry
restorers) the front part of my Willys frame and weld on the Mustang frame.
I'll
have to adjust the width of the Mustang frame to fit. >>

That's it Jerry, We're going to have to take you out and shoot you. :-) I've
seen this done on old Chevy and Ford Pickups using 70s model Chevels. They
all looked good from above but I never saw one that looked worth a dime from
below. They also had some serious difficulty getting them aligned. Good
Luck.

Rick S


Jerry Stoper
 

Rick
I hadn't thought about alignment and how the matchup would look. I guess I'll have
to give this more thought.
Jerry

Rick48CJ2A@... wrote:

From: Rick48CJ2A@...

In a message dated 10/22/98 7:53:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
stoper@... writes:

<< Then I'll need to cut off (sorry
restorers) the front part of my Willys frame and weld on the Mustang frame.
I'll
have to adjust the width of the Mustang frame to fit. >>

That's it Jerry, We're going to have to take you out and shoot you. :-) I've
seen this done on old Chevy and Ford Pickups using 70s model Chevels. They
all looked good from above but I never saw one that looked worth a dime from
below. They also had some serious difficulty getting them aligned. Good
Luck.

Rick S

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Jeff Gent
 

In a message dated 10/22/98 7:53:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
stoper@... writes:

<< Then I'll need to cut off (sorry
restorers) the front part of my Willys frame and weld on the Mustang frame.
I'll
have to adjust the width of the Mustang frame to fit. >>
I asked my father in-law about putting the Mustang II setup in his old
Pontiac. It sounds to me like they kept the Pontiac frame and added
just the control arms, etc which were pulled off a junker. The frame
was boxed in and the crossmember was moved (due to the motor I think).
This sounds to me like it would be easier to do than getting all the
body mounts etc. to work with the Mustang frame.


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mitch utsey
 

Jeff Gent wrote:



I asked my father in-law about putting the Mustang II setup in his old
Pontiac. It sounds to me like they kept the Pontiac frame and added
just the control arms, etc which were pulled off a junker. The frame
was boxed in and the crossmember was moved (due to the motor I think).
This sounds to me like it would be easier to do than getting all the
body mounts etc. to work with the Mustang frame.
Well, I have seen both subframe swaps and just the suspension swap you
describe. The subframe swap can save a lot of weight and still add strength to a
street rod, and has the added benefit of allowing the front end height to be
changed according to how the subframes are mated. If you have a frame that you are
happy with, and the skill with fabrication and welding (which you BETTER have for
either of these) then just go for the partial.

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