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1948 CJ2A
Okay thanks to Frank Woods lead, he found a 1948 CJ2A about 45 minutes from my
house. He says its in really good original shape. Very little body work needed. and when stored ran well 15 years ago. Problem now is that he can't get it started, compression is low...probably has a stuck valves or stuck rings. He says it all original but has not canvas components. Okay now the bad news.....He wants $2000. Does this sound high or idoes it sound about $500 high ( or more )? PLease let me know. Ken 50 Willys PU/Stake |
Hi Ken, Long time no speak. I think that $2000 for a CJ2A that isn't running
is a bit much, but if the rest of it is in really good shape then it may be worth it. Sometimes an engine ends up being the cheap part to fix. I'd still be pretty leary about it, because if it isn't running it's pretty hard to check out the rest of it. How it was stored is also important. Rick S PS My truck is the hit of the flood rescue operations in Shertz TX. We're going back out first thing in the morning. It's really, really, really bad down in the bottoms. I've never seen such devistation. Take care guys and sleep warm tonight. I'm going to bed. I slept 12 hours straight last night and I'll only get about 8 tonight. Bye |
Frank Wood
Man, I hate it when people find things I need to spend more money on. Go for it Ken! Didn't
someone on the list say replacement tubs from Carl cost over $2K? Can't beat good original sheet metal, right? Unless it has all the front grille bars cut out and has North African heritage. Then it might be worth even more. Tell him you need an operation and can only offer him $1200 since the motor is obviously seized and will need to be totally rebuilt. Then all these Desert Rat WTMLers can help you get it started. If it's all original and in good shape, even $2000 probably wouldn't be too bad, from what I've seen. I see hunter's specials in that range all the time that have had more lifts than Phyllis Diller. Did anybody ever buy that Russian Jeep I found a while back? Only $10K For the recent WTMLers, check out I've got to quit cyber-shopping. Cheers, Frank ---------- From: Kenjdorm@...[SMTP:Kenjdorm@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 6:25 PM To: WillysTech@... Subject: [WillysTech] Re: 1948 CJ2A From: Kenjdorm@... Okay thanks to Frank Woods lead, he found a 1948 CJ2A about 45 minutes from my house. He says its in really good original shape. Very little body work needed. and when stored ran well 15 years ago. Problem now is that he can't get it started, compression is low...probably has a stuck valves or stuck rings. He says it all original but has not canvas components. Okay now the bad news.....He wants $2000. Does this sound high or idoes it sound about $500 high ( or more )? PLease let me know. Ken 50 Willys PU/Stake begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(B\"`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ MD 8`* $```$````,`````P``, (````+``\.``````(!_P\!````2P`````` M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````%=I;&QY<U1E8VA ;VYE;&ES="YC;VT` M4TU44 !7:6QL>7-496-H0&]N96QI<W0N8V]M```>``(P`0````4```!33510 M`````!X``S !````%P```%=I;&QY<U1E8VA ;VYE;&ES="YC;VT```,`%0P! M`````P#^#P8````>``$P`0```!D````G5VEL;'ES5&5C:$!O;F5L:7-T+F-O M;2<``````@$+, $````<````4TU44#I724Q,65-414-(0$].14Q)4U0N0T]- M``,``#D`````"P! .@$````"`?8/`0````0````````",#D!!( !`!\```!2 M13H@6U=I;&QY<U1E8VA=(%)E.B Q.30X($-*,D$`V @!!8 #``X```#.!PH` M%0`5`"H`+ `#`&(!`2" `P`.````S@<*`!4`%0`9``H``P`O`0$)@ $`(0`` M`$4Y.#-!-D0X,D$V.40R,3%!-#$R-#0T-34S-30P,# P`- &`0.0!@# !P`` M% ````L`(P```````P`F```````+`"D```````,`+@```````P`V``````! M`#D`P)IDI67]O0$>`' ``0```!\```!213H@6U=I;&QY<U1E8VA=(%)E.B Q M.30X($-*,D$```(!<0`!````%@````&]_66E4]BF@^II*A'2I!)$15-4```` M`!X`'@P!````!0```%--5% `````'@`?# $````/````9G1W;V]D0&=H9RYN M970```,`!A#\'8R>`P`'$#\%```>``@0`0```&4```!-04XL24A!5$5)5%=( M14Y014]03$5&24Y$5$A)3D=324Y%14143U-014Y$34]214U/3D593TY'3T9/ M4DE42T5.1$E$3E133TU%3TY%3TY42$5,25-44T%94D503$%#14U%3E14```` M``(!"1 !````,@8``"X&``!P"@``3%I&=2E[O/__``H!#P(5`J0#Y 7K`H,` M4!,#5 (`8V@*P'-E=.XR!@`&PP*#,@/&!Q,"@S(S$P]F- /%`@!P<D)Q$B)S M=&5M`H,UNQ5L$X5]"H (SPG9.QDO>#(U-0* "H$-L0M@;C!G,3 S%" +`VQI MR#$T- +1:2T=$PS0[QT3"U46\@P!8P! != `<# L($D@$< 6<"!I"05 =V@) M\"!P96\'"U @$!U@;F0@=&AM"X!G!" ?P&X)X"%1;_P@<R"P(4$$8!DP(M$B M`(1Y( (@+B @1R)@5P(0!< @,4L)\"$CP$2P:61N)P5 "H5S`W#_(, B`".! M(6$@$!SP%F B<.YA(W 9, M18Q: "? %0)AT=6($( -2($,*P"<#( 6@)M%O M=@20("0X,DL_(\ HH"428F5Q'_ @9V\$<"5&!;!I_F<+@ = (G @<!(`(M 2 M`"<'0!^@*W%H="G!56[_(/ $$2 Q$< $( = `R F<M\#42?1"< #$"#Q8A'1 M*."^=2DA+]$`<"%0+>).&-'F:!-P`U!I8P!P"H4?T-,&<0&09V4CL50@<B Q MWFTLTBI!(% PTV4I4 .@NR+B,I)E+C$A@"B >0A@WR'T`Y$@T 20'_!I)D$P M0OLQ82.!;"-P*O8-T"EA-4+T)#$!T# B< N )Y F8X\$8")0)#$$(&]B=C:@ MS'5S-X$1\&EZ->,A4/\#\"XQ(@8SH2)0+'$W@1DP]&)U`Q!T,I8*A2XE$? ? M)- ^X0`@!_ J<5=439Y,!) OH0.1('!L<#5SOS)P!4 @,19@"L 6<&0CL?1) M9B A)RX$*V<P0@N ^RJ;*_!A(+ ?H#0S*9 X\#\Y`!7P.E !H#>!,]!U;.<E M`SQS/%%A9!^@*%,@8/DJ<4DG*5 ZX0GP0@)(DKT?T'4", 200H$B@6,',?\$ M( J%0\$A<"IQ-G <," 0_RXF-I '@$LD$<!(<1' (L4?'/ !@ 0@2S$#H%!H M>>\N,#HA). O,7(CL0J%).'U,#%Y!N!D(W T,07 /4"[(W!+,U(ZH "0`Y%* M">#_0, ?P (028 U\2!1`Q O4C1C:RG!3S=R., P2_T*A48%L29R&3 GD"?1 M/]7W'Z 1L 60:R_R"H\+D10B/P'0(\!7S!\B#& 9$&QN!FLP80) <#HO+W=U M6N N,G!O2C VD >0+E$%H&TO33G20R P>8PO1PK ,F$O.3D=$*(O(3%E>"XL M\&T9$.]7W#&66+]9SR\'@ ;00!$<+G0%$01P6[-^<#(@,C,X-3A=5"TR_UV_ M6()7"QS_'@\?%%<%5P5O2%,JH"?A(F!Q/5 %0&-;4' $D"TK\"#0<"&1+KU7 M!4,L`58Q5(9+@6MH?+D+2C$V5R #8!9P8P5 _BUO1VUO;G,,,&[&;* #<)XZ M;<]NU0R")')J9 6P&&U 80;P6[);4TWH5% Z= Y=;^]P_09@-P(P<B]S.U<) M@"(`<V0[)Q ?H$]O$#I0*6$R,84?H#%=$#@@-CH;8,U.@$UV?W#]5&]XOWG, M[R\A%E T\!&P0"-!)K);LG=\SW>.*!!J;P%^[W,[6[6 R%T'\&6$D'P`-'PP M\$-*,D%L_E>?<5UT#MEH?$]K)Q%.0FM.(2)@_VRC/\ JL00@(/!'<BYR4K5O MAX<N$ ;@+]$T?( S0&[G+] 'D2A3;7F(A6K0.J#],H%(2($G$"V2+9$#H!DP MWSS3*J,K:431([!6!) C</]E\ ) +T)0DC/1;.8B`D'B_SMC('(68"+Q(5!+ M@2!0-0*Z,7R >2I@+Y$R8&\CL,Y01>$@\"B ;F\'X#HA_TRT(! Q824@B(5! M+%91`W#_%? M<3:B.B$8P%L`GF!%U^LMXT&!=5:A=@= *5 Z,?\EH9^2B(4% M$"&ADII"K#U _RW$FI!J00!PG^ OH9U1(T'_`C"A@8SDFI(F<8B%1V$A\>YW M6Z"FXI*Q=P!P3A%%<_DCL$1O!Y$A<4GA4K,A@'\LX*!")/"H0D%B4K208R1N M-3CPD=:I0BB@0B+C*3TIP%! `"WP)I$L(R!K_YJ1:T:(A22!B(6K$("U3H#H M52]3`9!KI>:(CPN1+Q+RB@FQ%1A1`+/P```#`! 0``````,`$1 `````0 `' M,$ 2+S%C_;T!0 `(,$ 2+S%C_;T!'@`]``$````%````4D4Z( `````#``TT &_3<``&-Z ` end |
Judy Loving
From: Kenjdorm@...
Okay thanks to Frank Woods lead, he found a 1948 CJ2A about 45 minutes from my house. He says its in really good original shape. Very little body work needed. and when stored ran well 15 years ago. Problem now is that he can't get it started, compression is low...probably has a stuck valves or stuck rings. He says it all original but has not canvas components. Okay now the bad news.....He wants $2000. Does this sound high or idoes it sound about $500 high ( or more )? PLease let me know. Ken 50 Willys PU/Stake I'll offer up my two cents worth: I bought a '47 CJ2A in May. The only things really wrong with it (besides the usual rusty patch-and-rivet body) was that it had a crude, lopsided home-made rollbar that would be the first to crush in a rollover (it's real purpose is to hold up the ill-fitting vinyl top), the engine had been swapped with an F-head (I have an L-head waiting), and the brakes are too tight (?). Everything else is in stock running condition. I paid $1500 for it (probably too much) and drove it home. Or rather, my ex-husband drove it ("Can I drive it, please, huh, can I, huh, can I can I?"). So I let him. I figured it would be the last time I have a chance to watch it go down the road without me. Drives straight and looks pretty cute going down the road (the truck, that is). Judy |
Ron C
Keep wour wits about you when you go look at it. I am paying right now for it.
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I bought my 62 truck "not running" and regret it. Yes, I did get the engine running but it needs rebuilt. Furthermore, the tranny was trashed, the brakes were unsalvagable and most of the bearings were less than trustworthy. If it is not running, there are a host of things that could be wrong without you being able to tell short of dismantling parts of the vehicle. I know some out there have probably had good experiences buying a vehicle like this but I wouldn't do it again!!! Ron Cox totally dismantled 62 6-230 pu Rick48CJ2A@... wrote: From: Rick48CJ2A@... |
As usual All you guys have given me a nice response to my posting.
The advice was varied but all noteworthy. I will let you know how i make out this weekend. Oh by the way the engine does turn over, just does not start...stay tuned. And that one in Michigan for $5K - looked real nice. For another $500 i could get shipped here i bet! Thanks ALL KEN 50 PU/Stake ??1948CJ2A some day? |
Merl
$2000 seems a little pricey for something that you can't see run.
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As another poster mentioned (lost that mail), there are other components of the drive train that can't be tested without a running engine. As it did with mine, the purchase often involves an emotional factor that can cause you to overlook certain things, but a non running engine is a big one. I paid less than that for my '46 and it ran well...my mistake was that I didn't test drive it, which would have revealed the need for the post-purchase transmission and transfer case rebuild. I'd have still bought it, but I would have tried to talk the seller down a little more to account for that. If you buy it for a price you feel comfortable with, just do it and don't look back. There are *always* better deals out there, but wait too long on it to fall into your lap and you may wind up never getting one at all. Good luck. Merl Frank Wood wrote:
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Chuck Pedretti
Another 2-cents
I purchased a 46 which "ran a couple years ago and just needed a clutch" paid $750 for a machine which looked pretty good. As it turns out the engine was seized (an F head) the brakes are shot, etc. I'd take a real close look at all the stuff you can't test with it not running. Pull the trans cover and look inside. Throw it on jackstands if the owner will allow and make sure the T-case is doing what it should, you may end up with a bigger project than you bargained for. As a side note, if anyone has a working F head they are getting rid of in the name of originality I may be interested. I'll live with my hood hole for a few more horses. Chuck Pedretti 46 CJ-2a |
I paid the equivalent of $4,000 for my 1948 CJ-2A - However, the Jeep only has
56K miles on it, a NOS body, new top, tires, etc. About as close to a new CJ-2A as is possible 50 years later. $2,000 should either get you a near- perfect body/paint and questionable mechanicals, or something that runs great with need of a top, paint, and some minor rust repair. Bob 48 CJ-2A |
Freeberg, Scott (STP)
Of course we would like to buy our Jeep already running. If its not, then
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its a judgement call. If the 48 CJ-2A is truely in good original shape with very good body and interior, then it may well be worth the risk. How good is the body? Bondo or sheet metal? rust? Look in the wheel wells and underneath to determine condition. How do the mechanicals look like under the hood? or under the body? What does the speedometer mileage say? Do you believe it? Did it have a plow on it? If its lower mileage, say 40K for example, it shouldn't be worn out. Do you have a good feeling about the truthfulness of the seller? Frankly I don't think $2000 is high if the Jeep is really that in that good shape. Make him a lower offer and see what he says. I once checked out a CJ-2A that was advertised as excellant original condition. I didn't know that excellant original condition CJ-2A's Jeeps come all beat up, with sheet metal welded over body panels, rust, rewelded windshield frame, mangled tail gate, holes in the floor board, needing new brakes, steering problems, etc... :-> So check it out for your self and see how good it really is. Scott in Saint Paul Minn -----Original Message----- |
Sean R. Kerns
That is a _suhweet_ looking Willys... Is that an MB tub it's got? I wish my
'48 looked anything like that nice. I think I'd have to buy a new tub, though. Mine'll never be that straight. Sean '48 CJ-2A Stephen_J_Perialas@... wrote: Hope this gives you an Idea of value verses condition (See attached file: -- Sean R. Kerns (aka Snake) e-mail: music@... Bloodspoint Studio - Home of Stalking Horse |
Merl
I'm sure you heard the heavy sigh I let out when I saw that picture. Man.
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I think I see your point though. If/when I ever get mine looking that good I'll have way more than 5K into it. What is that back there in your garage? BTW, is the '46 Normandy Blue? Are the wheels black? (Can't really tell on my PC.) And is the grey of the top and seats original? Stephen_J_Perialas@... wrote:
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Ken,
Go ahead and put $$ away to rebuild the transfer case, you will also end up doing the transmission while you are in there, also a new clutch and resurface the flywheel. T-case intermediate shafts only last 20k miles or so. Brakes aren't too bad to get into but differentials are. See if you can jack it up and check backlash on the diffs, diff rebuilds can take a big bite out of your wallet, free time and WillysPoints. When it really comes down to it, all of us probably have WAY more invested in our jeeps than we could ever hope to recover. Old CJ's are a hobby, not an investment. It is actually a relief to finally hit the point of having twice as much invested in your jeep than you could ever sell it for, then you know you have crossed the line and don't have to worry about it any more (just don't let your wife know). Good luck! Jim Watson 48 CJ2A (worth at least $100,000 by now) 62 FC170 (increasing in value everyday) Kalispell, MT --- In WillysTech@y..., Kenjdorm@... wrote: Okay thanks to Frank Woods lead, he found a 1948 CJ2A about 45minutes from my house. He says its in really good original shape. Very little bodywork needed. and when stored ran well 15 years ago. Problem now is thathe can't get it started, compression is low...probably has a stuck valves orstuck rings. He says it all original but has not canvas components. Okaynow the bad news.....He wants $2000. Does this sound high or idoes it soundabout $500 high ( or more )? PLease let me know. |
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