Here are the specs for opening
Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous Jeep?
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle
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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 1:44 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
Yes
--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:
The engine should be able to idle in the drive with no problem. Is
there a
radiator shroud in there?
Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous Jeep?
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1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
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On
Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:53 AM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
My buddy who owns a local garage had a 180 and gave it to me to
try.
It didn't open before the needle pegged. I then went to a Napa
store
that is 5 minutes away and he had a 160 on his shelf. I installed
it
and it opened pretty quickly. However, the needle did eventually
peg
again. Keep in mind I'm not able to drive this unit yet on the road
and it is just idleing in the driveway. I'm not sure if this make a
difference or not.
John
--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
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"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:
John
It looks like $7 at AutoZone
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Toledo, Ohio
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1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle
Never Forget September 11, 2001
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On
Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:15 AM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
Thanks Ric,
I order one Monday.
John
--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:
John,
That sounds about right to me.
I think I would still put a 160? thermostat in there.
Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous Jeep?
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1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle
Never Forget September 11, 2001
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On
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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:54 AM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
Early this morning I removed the thermostat completely. After
running for about 10 minutes I could feel heat on the top of
the
radiator so I knew water was circulating now. The needle on my
gauge
was about 3/4 of the way to hot and seemed to stay in that
area.
I
understand that this is a relative position and may vary from
vehicle
to vehicle. I was able to hold on to the large hoses without
burning
my hand. I could keep my hand on the top of the radiator for
about
3
seconds before it became to hot. Is this about right? This
isn't
overheating is it?
Thanks,
John
--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
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ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:
John,
Right out of the FSM. I recommend a 160? version. That way
straight
water
can be used.
Also some people drill a small 1/16" to 1/8" hole in the
thermostat
flange.
This starts the flow and helps heat the thermostat.
Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous Jeep?
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1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle
Never Forget September 11, 2001
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On
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:02 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
Well, the thermostat was indeed installed upside down. I
corrected
it and started the engine. In about two minutes the engine
heated
again (the needle went to H on the gauge) and again the hose
from
the
thermostat was cool to touch while the others were too hot to
touch.
I probably need a new thermostat. What is the correct one and
can
they be purchased locally at NAPA or will I have to order one
from
a
jeep supply house?
Mine is stamped 192.
John
--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
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ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:
John,
Normally there is a "To Radiator" message stamped on one
side.
Here are 3 pictures showing the thermostat installed.
The thermostat fits into a thermostat retainer which fits
in
the
water
outlet.
The temperature sensor needs to be on the engine side. Some
times
there is a
small hole drilled in the flange.
Here are 3 links
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Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR
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1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle
Never Forget September 11, 2001
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On
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:55 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
So what does an upside down thermostat look like? I'll look
at
it
tomorrow.
John
--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
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ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:
I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common
mistake
Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
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1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle
Never Forget September 11, 2001
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On
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:58 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
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ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-
installed
thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that
the
water
pump is
functioning, and that coolant is circulating.
RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@msn. <mailto:mrkringles%
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To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get
hot
fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom
of
the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to
the
top
of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine
getting
hot
in
only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is
the
first
time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?
Thanks,
John
--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
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ups.com,
"RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@> wrote:
It is possible that the valve should have been left
open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the
valve
start
the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system
is
purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.
RJ
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit
On the rear of my engine is a water valve that
directs
flow
to
the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs
to
the
water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to
drive
my
truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to
the
water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the
time
for
engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they
opened
in
the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot
summer
months
when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me
on
this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got
hot
fast.
Thanks,
John
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