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Re: Wiring

 

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If your frogs are hot-wired, then they will carry currents to the siding. As long as the siding tracks are soldered to the frog, then the siding should be powered just fine. Granted that if the siding is looooong, then you need droppers just like any track. Soldered joints will carry the current down that siding for a reasonable length.

... Tom

On Jun 1, 2024, at 10:36?AM, 3CURLY3 via groups.io <3CURLY3@...> wrote:

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Ok. Thanks?
On 06/01/2024 12:31 PM CDT D B <1932mgj2@...> wrote:
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Need buss wires to sidings. ?Can’t rely on turnout power.
Bill D
N&W Steam Only
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On Jun 1, 2024, at 12:43?PM, 3CURLY3 via groups.io <3CURLY3@...> wrote:

Refer to 101 Track Plans? For Model Railroaders by Linn H. Wescott page 31. Plan #56 Dayton & Northern RR with 3 loops, 32", 30" and 28" radiuses. 14 guage buss and 22 guage feeders.? Each loop is a power district. Layout is NCE DCC.?
I eliminated the round house and turntable and added sidings similar to those on other end of layout. Sidings on both ends are coming off the inner 28" radius .??
My concern is do I need to attach buss wires to those sidings or do I rely on the switches to provide the power??

Re: Wiring

 

Ok. Thanks?

On 06/01/2024 12:31 PM CDT D B <1932mgj2@...> wrote:
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Need buss wires to sidings. ?Can’t rely on turnout power.
Bill D
N&W Steam Only
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On Jun 1, 2024, at 12:43?PM, 3CURLY3 via groups.io <3CURLY3@...> wrote:

Refer to 101 Track Plans? For Model Railroaders by Linn H. Wescott page 31. Plan #56 Dayton & Northern RR with 3 loops, 32", 30" and 28" radiuses. 14 guage buss and 22 guage feeders.? Each loop is a power district. Layout is NCE DCC.?
I eliminated the round house and turntable and added sidings similar to those on other end of layout. Sidings on both ends are coming off the inner 28" radius .??
My concern is do I need to attach buss wires to those sidings or do I rely on the switches to provide the power??

Re: Wiring

 

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Need buss wires to sidings. ?Can’t rely on turnout power.
Bill D
N&W Steam Only


On Jun 1, 2024, at 12:43?PM, 3CURLY3 via groups.io <3CURLY3@...> wrote:

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Refer to 101 Track Plans? For Model Railroaders by Linn H. Wescott page 31. Plan #56 Dayton & Northern RR with 3 loops, 32", 30" and 28" radiuses. 14 guage buss and 22 guage feeders.? Each loop is a power district. Layout is NCE DCC.?
I eliminated the round house and turntable and added sidings similar to those on other end of layout. Sidings on both ends are coming off the inner 28" radius .??
My concern is do I need to attach buss wires to those sidings or do I rely on the switches to provide the power??

Wiring

 

Refer to 101 Track Plans? For Model Railroaders by Linn H. Wescott page 31. Plan #56 Dayton & Northern RR with 3 loops, 32", 30" and 28" radiuses. 14 guage buss and 22 guage feeders.? Each loop is a power district. Layout is NCE DCC.?
I eliminated the round house and turntable and added sidings similar to those on other end of layout. Sidings on both ends are coming off the inner 28" radius .??
My concern is do I need to attach buss wires to those sidings or do I rely on the switches to provide the power??

Re: Wiring Pin-out for 2004 Athearn Challeger Tender

 

First off which decoder you have ?,if you have the 8pin decoder board ?it should work ?without any problems . If not start by tracing the wires on the locomotive’s wires to find out where they go to and I would do this first before putting it on the track.
Wiring Pin-out for 2004 Athearn Challeger Tender

 

I recently desided to put a new soundtraxx decoder in an old Athearn Challenger. The MRC decoder had been removed but the Loco has sat for several years. Does anyone know the pinout of the solder pads in the tender that are on the board that attaches to the Loco? Thanks? ...tj
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

I resistance soldered a few kits together.? I don't remember what setting I settled on, on my 250W resistance station, but it was a lot more than 100W.? I think I used it fairly close to full power.

Allan
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

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Was just on Micro Mark and saw this. Is it true?

On 05/24/2024 12:13 PM CDT Rick Jones <r.t.jones@...> wrote:
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Depends on what you're doing. For example, trying to solder together
those old Suydam metal building kits with a 100W iron has been futile
and frustrating. Those large corrugated metal panels drain all of the
heat away. My 300W PBL Hotip unit is much better for work like that. I
don't turn the dial all the way up; just about 2/3 or so.
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Rick Jones
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Keep staring ... I may do a trick.
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On 5/24/2024 10:36 AM, Allan AE2V wrote:
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250 is definitely too much for HO.
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Re: Resistance Soldering

 

Thanks, everyone, for the helpful replies!


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Don Weigt
Connecticut
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

Depends on what you're doing. For example, trying to solder together those old Suydam metal building kits with a 100W iron has been futile and frustrating. Those large corrugated metal panels drain all of the heat away. My 300W PBL Hotip unit is much better for work like that. I don't turn the dial all the way up; just about 2/3 or so.


Rick Jones

Keep staring ... I may do a trick.

On 5/24/2024 10:36 AM, Allan AE2V wrote:
Hi Don,
250 is definitely too much for HO.
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

I have and use a PBL resistance unit.? It is adjustable in 5 steps to a max of 300 watts.?I run it at 300 watts for soldering 18 gauge to wire to rail quickly s for track feeders.? Using that power means the spot to be soldered heats very quickly and the job is done very quickly.? The key to soldering track feeders without melting plastic ties is to take as little time as possible with the heat so that it is not conducted away down the rails resulting in melting.? ?

Dale Gloer
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

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Hi Don,

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250 is definitely too much for HO.? I did use the 250 setting for G-scale.

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Yes, the unit is adjustable.? For HO, I find 160-170W is ideal.?

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At the time I bought my unit, Micro-Mark also carried a 100W American Beauty unit; which wouldn’t be enough for a quick solder joint.

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Why 160+ rather than 63W unit?? I find the key is to heat the rail quickly and make my solder joint before the heat travels down the rail and melts more ties.? I find that I can solder a joint in 3-5 seconds.

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Someone posted yesterday that Micro-Mark is currently out of the 120V input unit.

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Allan

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Subject: Re: [w4dccqa] Resistance Soldering

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Allan,

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Is 250 Watts really necessary? I see Micromark's own unit has a 63W, 6V/3V transformer.

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Does your unit have adjustable power? If so, what setting do you typically use? Do you know how much power that is?

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Don W


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Don Weigt
Connecticut

Re: Resistance Soldering

 

Allan,

Is 250 Watts really necessary? I see Micromark's own unit has a 63W, 6V/3V transformer.

Does your unit have adjustable power? If so, what setting do you typically use? Do you know how much power that is?

Don W

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Don Weigt
Connecticut
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

Just and aside…I checked the M-M website last night and while the units are marked down from their list price, it appears that all of the 250 watt, 110v units are sold out. 220 volt units are available.
Jim Hodos
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

Thanks.

On 05/23/2024 8:52 AM CDT Gary Chudzinski <chudgr@...> wrote:
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I purchased the American Beauty Resistance Soldering Station from Micro Mark about eight years ago. I used it extensively for soldering Code 100 rail flextrack sections and feeders on an entirely?new layout. Although a bit pricey and skeptical about the name, it was one of the best purchases I have made for model railroad support. Very good quality and easy to use with the foot pedal leaving both hands free. Of course, it serves well for many other soldering applications!
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Gary Chudzinski

Re: Resistance Soldering

 

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I should have mentioned something about the name. ?Definitely not a name you would expect for soldering equipment. ?I was first introduced to the American Beauty brand in the 70’s and they were well thought of then. ?I have had mine since the 80’s.

Definitely not cheap. ?If you want to buy one, Micro-Mark is having a 20% off sale right now and free shipping.

Allan

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On May 23, 2024, at 11:07?AM, Gary Chudzinski via groups.io <chudgr@...> wrote:

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I purchased the American Beauty Resistance Soldering Station from Micro Mark about eight years ago. I used it extensively for soldering Code 100 rail flextrack sections and feeders on an entirely?new layout. Although a bit pricey and skeptical about the name, it was one of the best purchases I have made for model railroad support. Very good quality and easy to use with the foot pedal leaving both hands free. Of course, it serves well for many other soldering applications!

Gary Chudzinski
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

I purchased the American Beauty Resistance Soldering Station from Micro Mark about eight years ago. I used it extensively for soldering Code 100 rail flextrack sections and feeders on an entirely?new layout. Although a bit pricey and skeptical about the name, it was one of the best purchases I have made for model railroad support. Very good quality and easy to use with the foot pedal leaving both hands free. Of course, it serves well for many other soldering applications!

Gary Chudzinski
Re: Resistance Soldering

 

Micro-Mark still sells the 250W American Beauty resistance soldering station that I have used for decades.

Now was a great time for you asking your question.? Micro-Mark is having 20% off and free shipping (over $100) right now.

Allan
Wiring For DCC
Resistance Soldering

 

Preparing to attach feeders using resistance soldering. The June 2021 Model Railroader article by Allan Gartner is my excellent source of info. Layout is HO with Atlas code 100 track and switches. Allan mentions American Beauty for soldering with 150W to 170W for HO. Have not been able to locate a unit for these wattages.?
Any source(s) for a unit??
Thanks.?

Re: DCC Ammeter

 

That's all good news, Allan, and reassuring going forward! Many thanks again.
John

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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 9:00?PM Allan AE2V via <bigboy=[email protected]> wrote:
John,

I think you are getting it.? How could voltages be in places you don't expect?? If there is a wiring error.? I can't tell you how many times this has happened to readers.? This especially happens when they make a change to the layout.? The fact that you are not seeing track voltages in places you don't expect is good.? That's what we want.

You mention that the RRAmpmeter had prior use.? It could have been damaged during its last use.

Now that you have done the check I wanted you to do and a few others, when you get your repaired/replaced RRAmpmeter, you are probably going to be fine.

The small voltage reading you did get is because your layout wiring is acting like an antenna and is picking up the AC in your house wiring.? This is common and is okay.

Allan

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