开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 开云体育

Re: WOC SOTA Summit Values


 

开云体育

Neal is spot on.?

If you read the history of SOTA it originated in the UK, in a pub, on a napkin, based on islands on the air IIRC.?

In the beginning, US associations were mostly multi-state.?

You can still see the remnants in the naming. W5 used to be the association name. Now there are multiple subdivisions of W5.?

The activators in NM would scream and complain about there being say 99% of their summits being 1 pointers and 1% being 10 or 8 up around the enchanted circle (Taos, Angel Fire, Red River). But wait, there’s more. Texas was even worse because they ONLY had summits in West Texas and it’s HOURS from the majority of the population centers.?

The SOTA management team grew to include people in the US and the summit data got better and more accurate with some very flexible changes in some associations where the prominence was changed to allow hilly areas to be sectioned off even further within a state to allow some of those hilltops to count as summits. The goal of the MT was to get more people out activating summits.?

Now that you have all of the summits out there, it leaves people to be able to activate towards personal goals whatever they may be.

Some people want to make mountain goat, using VHF and above, some want to become a Goat activating only Summit over 10,000 feet high, some people want to only activate virgin summits, some people don’t care and just use their time off of work or their retirement to travel around and see the world from summits wherever they are and talk to other aficionados of the sport.?

Some people like to take the rules or the changes and use that as a reason to complain about one thing or another. In Germany, it got so bad that the angry mob created their own alternate program from SOTA.?

Just like the hobby of Ham Radio, there are many directions within this program that people have created or followed.

73,

Curtis KC5CW?



On Mar 8, 2025, at 11:38?PM, Neal N3ALT via groups.io <turettn@...> wrote:

?

If I remember correctly, the short answer is the standard formula is highest N% of peaks in that association get 10 points, the lowest M% get 1 point, and they spread out the rest.? Since Colorado is it's own association, and we have a lot of high mountains compared to neighboring states, it creates a bit of a skew.

Complicating matters further, there was apparently some drama when they split the US into smaller associations, and people didn't want the mountains near them to go down in value.? Some associations managed to keep their points with the percentile bands reflecting the entire US, instead of just their association.? This was before my time, but I'm sure if you ask on the nasota list people would be happy to provide more information and/or re-litigate old arguments.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2025, 21:55 Dave N0DET via <navyprowler=[email protected]> wrote:
Now you see why the Colorado SOTA ops are tougher than the average op....!!

;)

73,

Dave, N0DET



On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:31?PM Matt KF0RIG via <zimbelmanguitars=[email protected]> wrote:
Is W0C in some sort of purgatory for past wrongs??
Can someone tell me why our mountains are worth less points?
?
Below is a few snapshots on the Colorado border.
?
Feel free to berate/scorn me as the noob I am.
?

Join [email protected] to automatically receive all group messages.