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Hi All
Happy New Year
I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB groups.
This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There are 3 different
access points and possibly the N end of 224th.
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Hi while
walking my dog on the dyke (heading west) near
Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!"
Roger Craik
Maple Ridge
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Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But I've been wrong before.
Larry
From: "Roger" <wysiwyg@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 7:21:22 PM Subject: [vanbcbirds] Loggerhead Shrike. -- Larry Cowan Pitt Meadows, BC
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Could be right, Larry. The angle of the head could be deceiving.
I'll leave it up to the experts. My experience is that if the bird
ignores you it's Northern. Conversely...
Roger
On 2022-01-07 7:43 p.m., Larry Cowan
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Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter
beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But
I've been wrong before.
Larry
Hi All
Happy New Year
I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB
groups.
This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There
are 3 different access points and possibly the N end
of 224th.
"
Hi while walking my
dog on the dyke (heading west) near
Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!"
Roger Craik
Maple Ridge
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This is a Northern Shrike, relatively common here in winter. The black mask is less extensive than a Loggerhead’s and does not extend over the bill. Beautiful birds.?
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Agree Larry – it’s a NSHR! ? I’ve attached a couple of photos of NSHR banded at CF showing the length of the deeply hooked bill and pale base to the bill lacking on LOSH. ? And Larry….you’re never wrong! :o) ? Happy New Year! ? Derek ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry Cowan
Sent: January 7, 2022 7:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [vanbcbirds] Loggerhead Shrike.? Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But I've been wrong before. ? ?
? Hi All Happy New Year I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB groups. This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There are 3 different access points and possibly the N end of 224th. " Hi while walking my dog on the dyke (heading west) near Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!" 
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? Roger Craik Maple Ridge
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Sorry to be a pain, but I think that should be NOSH.? See below:
https://www.birdatlas.bc.ca/bcdata/codes.jsp?lang=en&pg=species&sortorder=codes
Cheers, Valerie Fuller.
On 01/08/22 09:47 AM, "Derek Matthews" <Derek@...> wrote:Agree Larry – it’s a NSHR! ? I’ve attached a couple of photos of NSHR banded at CF showing the length of the deeply hooked bill and pale base to the bill lacking on LOSH. ? And Larry….you’re never wrong! :o) ? Happy New Year! ? Derek ? ? Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But I've been wrong before. ? ?
? Hi All Happy New Year I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB groups. This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There are 3 different access points and possibly the N end of 224th. " Hi while walking my dog on the dyke (heading west) near Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!" ![May be an image
of bird and nature]()
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? Roger Craik Maple Ridge |
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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.
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Hi Valerie and others, ? If the normal way of using the first two letters of the first and last names of birds was used, then Northern Shrike and Northern Shoveler, would result in exactly the same abbreviation of “NOSH”. ? Therefore to distinguish the two, the official bird banding abbreviation of Northern Shrike was made NSHR and the official abbreviation of Northern Shoveler was made NSHO. ? Cheers, Colin Clasen Coquitlam, BC ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ValerieFuller
Sent: January 8, 2022 4:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [vanbcbirds] Loggerhead Shrike.? Sorry to be a pain, but I think that should be NOSH.? See below: ?
On 01/08/22 09:47 AM, "Derek Matthews" <Derek@...> wrote:
Agree Larry – it’s a NSHR! ? I’ve attached a couple of photos of NSHR banded at CF showing the length of the deeply hooked bill and pale base to the bill lacking on LOSH. ? And Larry….you’re never wrong! :o) ? Happy New Year! ? Derek ? ? Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But I've been wrong before. ? ?
? Hi All Happy New Year I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB groups. This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There are 3 different access points and possibly the N end of 224th. " Hi while walking my dog on the dyke (heading west) near Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!" ? ? Roger Craik Maple Ridge |
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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.
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Northern Shrike, Northern Shoveler... my Sibley app says they are NSHR and NSHO. But who am I to say which is right?
Here's a thread in which several experienced people variously say "Everybody is using NSHR" and "In British Columbia we traditionally use NOSH", so I'm certainly not going to go to bat for either of them. Good birding Paul Clapham
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 16:38, ValerieFuller < ungulate@...> wrote: Sorry to be a pain, but I think that should be NOSH.? See below:
Cheers, Valerie Fuller.
On 01/08/22 09:47 AM, "Derek Matthews" <Derek@...> wrote:Agree Larry – it’s a NSHR! ? I’ve attached a couple of photos of NSHR banded at CF showing the length of the deeply hooked bill and pale base to the bill lacking on LOSH. ? And Larry….you’re never wrong! :o) ? Happy New Year! ? Derek ? ? Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But I've been wrong before. ? ?
From: "Roger" <wysiwyg@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 7:21:22 PM
Subject: [vanbcbirds] Loggerhead Shrike. ? Hi All Happy New Year I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB groups. This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There are 3 different access points and possibly the N end of 224th. " Hi while walking my dog on the dyke (heading west) near Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!" ![May be an image
of bird and nature]()
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? Roger Craik Maple Ridge |
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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.
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The link I sent shows Norther Shoveler as NOSL.? So, it seems different sources show different abbreviations.? Good to know.
Thanks, Valerie
On 01/08/22 04:52 PM, "Paul Clapham" <paul.c.clapham@...> wrote:Northern Shrike, Northern Shoveler... my Sibley app says they are NSHR and NSHO. But who am I to say which is right?
Here's a thread in which several experienced people variously say "Everybody is using NSHR" and "In British Columbia we traditionally use NOSH", so I'm certainly not going to go to bat for either of them. Good birding Paul Clapham
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 16:38, ValerieFuller < ungulate@...> wrote: Sorry to be a pain, but I think that should be NOSH.? See below:
Cheers, Valerie Fuller.
On 01/08/22 09:47 AM, "Derek Matthews" <Derek@...> wrote:Agree Larry – it’s a NSHR! ? I’ve attached a couple of photos of NSHR banded at CF showing the length of the deeply hooked bill and pale base to the bill lacking on LOSH. ? And Larry….you’re never wrong! :o) ? Happy New Year! ? Derek ? ? Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But I've been wrong before. ? ?
? Hi All Happy New Year I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB groups. This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There are 3 different access points and possibly the N end of 224th. " Hi while walking my dog on the dyke (heading west) near Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!" ![May be an image
of bird and nature]()
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? Roger Craik Maple Ridge |
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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.
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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.
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As NA banders we use the alpha codes listed by the Bird Banding Offices (Bird Banding Lab/USGS): ? You can sort the list alphabetically by clicking on the column headers – Hope this helps! ? Derek ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ValerieFuller
Sent: January 8, 2022 6:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [vanbcbirds] Loggerhead Shrike.? The link I sent shows Norther Shoveler as NOSL.? So, it seems different sources show different abbreviations.? Good to know.
On 01/08/22 04:52 PM, "Paul Clapham" <paul.c.clapham@...> wrote:
Northern Shrike, Northern Shoveler... my Sibley app says they are NSHR and NSHO. But who am I to say which is right? Here's a thread in which several experienced people variously say "Everybody is using NSHR" and "In British Columbia we traditionally use NOSH", so I'm certainly not going to go to bat for either of them. ? ? On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 16:38, ValerieFuller <ungulate@...> wrote: Sorry to be a pain, but I think that should be NOSH.? See below: ?
On 01/08/22 09:47 AM, "Derek Matthews" <Derek@...> wrote:
Agree Larry – it’s a NSHR! ? I’ve attached a couple of photos of NSHR banded at CF showing the length of the deeply hooked bill and pale base to the bill lacking on LOSH. ? And Larry….you’re never wrong! :o) ? Happy New Year! ? Derek ? ? Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But I've been wrong before. ? ?
? Hi All Happy New Year I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB groups. This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There are 3 different access points and possibly the N end of 224th. " Hi while walking my dog on the dyke (heading west) near Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!" ? ? Roger Craik Maple Ridge |
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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.
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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.
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Derek Matthews
