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Thanks,

Valerie

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On 01/08/22 04:52 PM, "Paul Clapham" <paul.c.clapham@...> wrote:

Northern Shrike, Northern Shoveler... my Sibley app says they are NSHR and NSHO. But who am I to say which is right?

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Here's a thread in which several experienced people variously say "Everybody is using NSHR" and "In British Columbia we traditionally use NOSH", so I'm certainly not going to go to bat for either of them.

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Good birding

Paul Clapham

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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 16:38, ValerieFuller <ungulate@...> wrote:

Sorry to be a pain, but I think that should be NOSH.? See below:

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Cheers,

Valerie Fuller.

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On 01/08/22 09:47 AM, "Derek Matthews" <Derek@...> wrote:

Agree Larry – it’s a NSHR! ? I’ve attached a couple of photos of NSHR banded at CF showing the length of the deeply hooked bill and pale base to the bill lacking on LOSH. ? And Larry….you’re never wrong! :o) ? Happy New Year! ? Derek ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry Cowan Sent: January 7, 2022 7:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [vanbcbirds] Loggerhead Shrike. ? Looks like a Northern Shrike to me. LOSH has shorter beak and a much more pronounced black on the face. But I've been wrong before. ? Larry ? From: "Roger" <wysiwyg@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 7:21:22 PM Subject: [vanbcbirds] Loggerhead Shrike. ? Hi All Happy New Year I picked this up on one of the Maple Ridge FB groups. This is the report.? Image captured Jan 4. There are 3 different access points and possibly the N end of 224th. " Hi while walking my dog on the dyke (heading west) near Seabrook Stables. Lovely to see!" ? ? Roger Craik Maple Ridge

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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.