Re: Spotting Scope Advice
Hey Greg. I have always been partial to Swarovski. One of the most expensive scopes but I think the quality is worth it. I have an ATS 80 with a 25-50 wide angle zoom eyepiece and it is a pure joy to use. Superb image quality and it will last a lifetime.
Swarovski also has the relatively new ATX / STX / BTX modular scope system where you pair an eyepiece module with an objective lens module. I had a chance to test one of these with the 95 mm objective lens module. It was big and heavy. Too heavy for an aging birder like me. :D I imagine the 85 mm or 65 mm objective module would be much better in terms of weight but i didn’t have a chance to try them out.
I never used to like Kowa, but they have made great strides in the past decade or so in terms of quality. I had a chance to field test the Kowa TSN 883 Prominar side by side with my Swarovski and I have to admit the Kowa image quality was virtually the same. Maybe even slightly better at an extreme distance with lots of heat waves. I do a lot of birding in Hungary and the Kowa is now the most popular scope for birders in the country looking to upgrade. Very comparable image quality to Swarovski, but much less expensive than Swarovski.
I notice in the links you sent that Kowa is not mentioned much. Maybe not as popular brand in North America. I also notice that in the site that does mention Kowa, it seems to be more expensive than Swarovski. Weird because in Europe it is cheaper. Anyway, I don’t think you can go wrong with a Swarovski ATS or STS, or Kowa TSN 770 or TSN 880 series.
A few random thoughts about scopes.
A straightline configuration is somewhat easier to aim, and gets less water droplets on the eyepiece in the rain. On the other hand, I find an angled eyepiece a more comfortable viewing position if you are very tall like me. Also, the tripod doesn’t have to extend as high with an angled eyepiece. Once again, this is only a problem if you are really tall because sometimes you can’t find a tripod that extends high enough to get a comfortable viewing position. Easier to find this if your scope has an angled eyepiece.
Another advantage of angled configuration … it is much better for high angle viewing. Like that raptor a kilometer up and directly overhead. Or that small finch at the top of a towering spruce right next to the road. To get a straight scope on this is brutal. Much easier with an angled eyepiece. Also, if you do guiding, an angled eyepiece is more amenable for viewing if you have people in your party of varying heights. I have guided with both straight scopes and angled scopes and found that you have to adjust the height on the straight scope a lot more for everybody to get a good view.
Some of the higher end scopes now offer wide-angle zoom eyepieces. I would highly recommend a wide angle zoom rather than a regular zoom eyepiece. I have used both types of zoom on Swarovski and Kowa scopes and the wide angle is so much better in terms of sharpness, clarity, contrast, field of view and performance in poor light conditions. Typically regular zoom goes up to 60X, while the wide angle zoom only goes to 50X. So you are giving up 10X magnification at the top end, but the superior image quality more than makes up for it in my opinion. If you are going to spend the money, you should go for the wide angle zoom.
Anyway for what it’s worth, that’s my two-cents! It is a big investment, so very best of luck with what you decide. :)
Daniel Bastaja
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On Mar 12, 2020, at 4:37 PM, greg ferguson <suncity28@...> wrote:,
Hello,
I'm looking to purchase a spotting scope for birding (shorebirds, raptors, etc.) and wondering if others may have advice on scopes they like.
Some advice I found online:
Cheers,
Greg, North Vancouver
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Re: Spotting Scope Advice
Good morning Greg, ? For starters I’d suggest visiting Markarian Fine Optics on Kingsway: ? The owner, Harout Markarian, is the former co-owner of Vancouver Telescope (now closed). I bought my first inexpensive spotting scope from him there about 15 years ago, then upgraded to another one there about 12 years ago. I also bought some Vortex binoculars from him there 11 years ago. Once I’ve told him my budget for something, he has never tried to up-sell me. ? About 2 years ago Harout opened Markarian Fine Optics as the sole owner. About 6 months ago I bought this spotting scope from him: . I’ve been quite pleased with it. Even though it’s an inexpensive scope, it surprisingly comes with a zippered stay-on cover, a protective screw-on eye-piece cylinder and a protective screw-on front-end cap. ? I find his honesty beyond question. For example this past December, during the Vancouver and Ladner Christmas Bird Counts, my 11-year-old Vortex 10x42 binoculars started fogging up badly in one side and developed numerous strange, bright squiggly lines in the other side. In other words, they became useless. Since I still had the White Rock and Pitt Meadows CBC’s to do, I went to Harout for advice. His response was amazing. Since he has an in-house service department, he said he could open up my binoculars and try to fix the problem, which would cost $50 to $100 in labour. But he warned me there was no guarantee the problem was fixable. So instead, he told me Vortex has a lifetime warranty on ALL their binoculars, regardless of price. (I had no idea.) He felt that since mine had 2 problems, Vortex might just replace them with brand new ones. He was right!! I couriered them to Vortex back east and a month later received some brand new Vortex 10x42 binoculars, equivalent in quality to my old ones. ? There’s more. Harout definitely thinks like a customer. Since he knew how important it was for me to have binoculars for my remaining 2 CBCs, he immediately offered to lend me some brand new Pentax 10x42 binoculars, until I received either repaired or replacement ones back from Vortex! I definitely did not hint for that. I just expected I’d have to try and borrow some from a friend or relative. He just offered without being asked. (As a return favour to Harout, I was luckily able to arrange for a friend to buy those loaners from him.) ? As you all know, high-end 10x42 binoculars like Swarovski, Leica and Zeiss sell in the $2000-plus range, so I would expect them to have a lifetime warranty. But since my replacement Vortex 10x42 binoculars are only mid-range quality, retailing for around $750, I would not have expected them to have a lifetime warranty. So like John Gordon, I’m a customer for life! ? So whether it’s a spotting scope or binoculars you’re looking for, I’d highly recommend at least visiting Harout to see what he has to offer. ? Cheers, Colin Clasen Coquitlam, BC ?
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Sent: March-12-20 8:38 AM
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Subject: [vanbcbirds] Spotting Scope Advice ? Hello, I'm looking to purchase a spotting scope for birding (shorebirds, raptors, etc.) and wondering if others may have advice on scopes they like.? Some advice I found online:
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Hi Greg .. I have this one. Very impressed with it when I have used it. However, being that I always bring my Canon photo gear, I rarely carry the scope.?
I expect I’ll put it to a bit more use for astrophotography with my young son in future. I have the 50mm prime lens & scope ring mount for it. (I’m 68 and have never viewed the rings of Saturn!)
Cheers, Perry EdwardsNorth Vancouver?
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On Mar 12, 2020, at 08:38, greg ferguson <suncity28@...> wrote:
? Hello,
I'm looking to purchase a spotting scope for birding (shorebirds, raptors, etc.) and wondering if others may have advice on scopes they like.?
Some advice I found online:
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Cheers,? Greg, North Vancouver
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Hello,
I'm looking to purchase a spotting scope for birding (shorebirds, raptors, etc.) and wondering if others may have advice on scopes they like.?
Some advice I found online:
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Cheers,? Greg, North Vancouver
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I also had excellent service with Swarovski when I damaged them in a fall crossing a creek.? Swarovski paid the freight there and back.? Very smooth procedure. ? My only concern was when they were returned the delivery company left my bins on my front step, no door bell ring or knock on the door. ?Thankfully I was home and heard the truck outside.? Wonder what the compensation package would have been if they had been stolen from my front steps ? ? Larry Cowan Pitt Meadows ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Derek Matthews
Sent: March 10, 2020 9:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Daniel Bastaja <danielbastaja@...>
Subject: Re: [vanbcbirds] Vortex? It really is refreshing when manufacturers stand by their products like this and you don't have to stay on terminal hold to try to speak to someone or have to shout and scream at anybody! I've had similar experiences with Swarovski over the years sending equipment back which has been replaced or repaired no questions asked and shipping paid. Nice to hear! Derek Derek Matthews VARC? ? On 2020-03-10 07:27, Daniel Bastaja wrote: John… great story. So nice to see companies that stand by their product like that. Rare enough these days.
I had a similar experience with my Swarovski EL’s. They were battered and when one side developed a problem focussing I took them to a Swarovski dealer. What I got back was virtually a new pair. The fixed the focus, cleaned and replaced the screw, replaced all the rubber armouring, and even replaced the centre supports that had my SIN number engraved in it for security reasons. These were 20 year old bins so I had no receipts, no nothing. No questions asked and all of this at no charge. Zero. They didn’t even charge me shipping. I was quite impressed.
Daniel Bastaja
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On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:37 AM, John Gordon via Groups.Io <inaphoto@...> wrote:
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Two months ago I dropped my Vortex Diamondback bins, after bouncing off the curb they wouldn't focus so I sent them back to Vortex Canada. Vortex is famous for offering a lifetime guarantee. The process was simple. The cost of shipping is covered my the owner and the return shipping by the company which I think is pretty fair. Meanwhile my birding buddy Carlo G lent me his old bins so I could continue birding. Imagine my surprise when a month later the front bell rang and the courier handed me a box from Vortex. What I found inside was not my old battered pair but a brand new undated version off my old bins.
Thanks Vortex, you sure made my day.
Customer for life.
John Gordon (JOGO)
-- Larry Cowan Pitt Meadows, BC
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It really is refreshing when manufacturers stand by their products like this and you don't have to stay on terminal hold to try to speak to someone or have to shout and scream at anybody!
I've had similar experiences with Swarovski over the years sending equipment back which has been replaced or repaired no questions asked and shipping paid. Nice to hear!
Derek
Derek Matthews VARC?
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On 2020-03-10 07:27, Daniel Bastaja wrote:
John… great story. So nice to see companies that stand by their product like that. Rare enough these days. I had a similar experience with my Swarovski EL’s. They were battered and when one side developed a problem focussing I took them to a Swarovski dealer. What I got back was virtually a new pair. The fixed the focus, cleaned and replaced the screw, replaced all the rubber armouring, and even replaced the centre supports that had my SIN number engraved in it for security reasons. These were 20 year old bins so I had no receipts, no nothing. No questions asked and all of this at no charge. Zero. They didn’t even charge me shipping. I was quite impressed. Daniel Bastaja danielbastaja@...
On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:37 AM, John Gordon via Groups.Io <inaphoto@...> wrote:
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Two months ago I dropped my Vortex Diamondback bins, after bouncing off the curb they wouldn't focus so I sent them back to Vortex Canada. Vortex is famous for offering a lifetime guarantee. The process was simple. The cost of shipping is covered my the owner and the return shipping by the company which I think is pretty fair. Meanwhile my birding buddy Carlo G lent me his old bins so I could continue birding. Imagine my surprise when a month later the front bell rang and the courier handed me a box from Vortex. What I found inside was not my old battered pair but a brand new undated version off my old bins.
Thanks Vortex, you sure made my day.
Customer for life.
John Gordon (JOGO)
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Zeiss did the same for my broken bins, new pair within a month. Just sayin'..
PAKU (Paul Kusmin, Republic of North Vancouver).
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John… great story. So nice to see companies that stand by their product like that. Rare enough these days.
I had a similar experience with my Swarovski EL’s. They were battered and when one side developed a problem focussing I took them to a Swarovski dealer. What I got back was virtually a new pair. The fixed the focus, cleaned and replaced the screw, replaced all the rubber armouring, and even replaced the centre supports that had my SIN number engraved in it for security reasons. These were 20 year old bins so I had no receipts, no nothing. No questions asked and all of this at no charge. Zero. They didn’t even charge me shipping. I was quite impressed.
Daniel Bastaja
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On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:37 AM, John Gordon via Groups.Io <inaphoto@...> wrote:
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Two months ago I dropped my Vortex Diamondback bins, after bouncing off the curb they wouldn't focus so I sent them back to Vortex Canada. Vortex is famous for offering a lifetime guarantee. The process was simple. The cost of shipping is covered my the owner and the return shipping by the company which I think is pretty fair. Meanwhile my birding buddy Carlo G lent me his old bins so I could continue birding. Imagine my surprise when a month later the front bell rang and the courier handed me a box from Vortex. What I found inside was not my old battered pair but a brand new undated version off my old bins.
Thanks Vortex, you sure made my day.
Customer for life.
John Gordon (JOGO)
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Two months ago I dropped my Vortex Diamondback bins, after bouncing off the curb they wouldn't focus so I sent them back to Vortex Canada. Vortex is famous for offering a lifetime guarantee. The process was simple. The cost of shipping is covered my the owner and the return shipping by the company which I think is pretty fair. Meanwhile my birding buddy Carlo G lent me his old bins so I could continue birding. Imagine my surprise when a month later the front bell rang and the courier handed me a box from Vortex. What I found inside was not my old battered pair but a brand new undated version off my old bins.
Thanks Vortex, you sure made my day.
Customer for life.
John Gordon (JOGO)
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Brydon Lagoon plans cause concern for the "nature" park
Friends of Brydon Lagoon especially those who can attend might want to raise objections (or not) to the idea of an observation deck in the middle of the pond (goodbye mergansers and buffleheads) as well as children's playground (goodbye birdsong) Personally I things are just fine there and the best thing is to do little more than leave it to the birds.
Please forward this link to anyone who may be interested and if you can attend make your voice known.
Thanks?
An excerpt from the Langley Advance News
"Next Wednesday, March 4th, Langley City residents will have another opportunity to shape the future development of the Nicomekl River District.
Scheduled to run from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. at the Nicomekl School multi-purpose room, at 20050 53rd Ave., the event will see City staff present a “draft concept” of a plan that would create a four-zone district along both sides of the Nicomekl River corridor between 196th Street and 208th Street.
Zones would include the “Garden Wild” on the western end, which would see the area around Brydon Lagoon kept as natural as possible, the “Living Room” for residential development, the “Library,” where educational and interpretive programs would operate, and the “Front Porch,” on the eastern end, which would aim to encourage use of the corridor trails and other amenities"
The full article
John Gordon
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VARC Bird Monitoring and Banding Workshops!
The Vancouver Avian Research Centre has just posted dates for Bird Monitoring and Banding Workshops:
·?????? June 5 - 7
·?????? September 11 - 13
Consisting of both classroom sessions and hands-on instruction, the workshop provides an excellent opportunity to experience a professional bird monitoring and banding station in action and provides a fantastic opportunity to see birds up close and personal, to learn about their plumage, molt sequences and life habits.?
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The workshop has been developed for people with little or no bird banding experience, although those with existing experience have benefited enormously from the field and classroom sessions which teach accurate ageing and sexing of NA landbirds in the hand in a methodical way. Participants will receive training in bird safety and welfare, bird identification, bird banding and taking biometric measurements, ageing and sexing techniques, mist net use and data collection.
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Most of all, these workshops are designed to be a fun and interesting experience and a way to take your interest in birds to the next level. See what people who have attended the workshops have to say and why the average rating from course participants is 9.5 out of 10!!
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Full details of the course schedule, content and registration information can also be found online:
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Thank you!
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Derek Matthews
Chairman / NABC Certified Trainer
Vancouver Avian Research Centre
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Re: Caribbean birding trip!
Congrats Derek! 64 lifers on a single trip is fantastic, especially considering how many you and Carol already have on your life list. Nice! I look forward to reading the trip report. :)
Daniel Bastaja
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On Feb 26, 2020, at 1:21 AM, Derek Matthews <Derek@...> wrote:
We have just finished a 3-week trip to three of the Caribbean Islands we haven't visited before: Turks and Caicos, Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico.
All 5 of our target birds in T&C were tricky with just single views of most of them despite birding hard and scouring Providenciales, Middle and North Caicos Islands. Cuban Crow was a crazy birding moment as we hunted high and low for this bird which we knew was very scarce and we couldn’t find it anywhere. We stopped at one location for American Flamingo and as we got out of the car we heard the crow call, it landed on a post right in front of us, stayed there for about 2 minutes for fantastic views and then flew off and that was it, we never heard or saw another one the whole time we were there!
We finished our 10 days in Dominican Republic with some really good birds – one highlight for sure was Bay-breasted Cuckoo which is very shy and difficult to see. We heard it first and then crept through the bush with our guide on our hands and knees for about an hour until we finally found it and got great views. There are times when we think we must be completely mad and then times like this when it’s all worth it! This was also the day we got 3 Quail-Doves – White-fronted, Key West and Ruddy Quail-Dove – any day you get three Quail-Doves is a pretty special birding day!
Other highlights were Eastern Chat-Tanager, Greater Antillean Elaenia, Hispaniola Siskin, Hispaniolan Crossbill and Bicknell’s Thrush. It was also nice to see all the NA warblers on their winter grounds down there: Northern Parula, Yellow, Cape May (lots), Myrtle, Black-throated Blue, Pine (lots), Prairie (lots), Palm, Black-and-white, American Redstart (lots), Ovenbird (lots) and Northern and Louisiana Waterthrush.
We finished the third leg of our Caribbean trip in Puerto Rico. We thought PR would be the best part of the trip for birds but actually had more species and more life birds in Dominican Republic. Highlights in PR were Adelaide’s and Elfin woods Warbler, Green-throated Carib, PR Flycatcher, PR Vireo and PR Tody which gave us the last of the world’s 5 Tody species endemic to the Caribbean islands. Total new species for the trip was 64 – trip reports for all 3 islands with photos are on the website at - click on Caribbean!
Derek Matthews
VARC
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On Tuesday, February 25, 2020, 3:08 PM, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote: Great for gifts and such Elena.?
Keith taylor
On Feb 25, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Elena Ballam via Groups.Io < elle.ballam@...> wrote: Hi bird friends!
I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I figured some might be interested in some bird art. I'm a bird lover and artist, and I've been busy making cards, stickers and pins. I have a little shop on Etsy of my bird art and would love some feedback from fellow bird enthusiasts!?
I'm also attaching a photo of what I believe was a Coopers Hawk that landed on my balcony over the weekend! Quality isn't great as I didn't want to attempt to get closer and scare her off. Shortly after though, one of my cats took care of that when he tried to get a closer look haha.
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We have just finished a 3-week trip to three of the Caribbean Islands we haven't visited before: Turks and Caicos, Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico.
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All 5 of our target birds in T&C were tricky with just single views of most of them despite birding hard and scouring Providenciales, Middle and North Caicos Islands. Cuban Crow was a crazy birding moment as we hunted high and low for this bird which we knew was very scarce and we couldn’t find it anywhere. We stopped at one location for American Flamingo and as we got out of the car we heard the crow call, it landed on a post right in front of us, stayed there for about 2 minutes for fantastic views and then flew off and that was it, we never heard or saw another one the whole time we were there!
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We finished our 10 days in Dominican Republic with some really good birds – one highlight for sure was Bay-breasted Cuckoo which is very shy and difficult to see. We heard it first and then crept through the bush with our guide on our hands and knees for about an hour until we finally found it and got great views. There are times when we think we must be completely mad and then times like this when it’s all worth it! This was also the day we got 3 Quail-Doves – White-fronted, Key West and Ruddy Quail-Dove – any day you get three Quail-Doves is a pretty special birding day!
Other highlights were Eastern Chat-Tanager, Greater Antillean Elaenia, Hispaniola Siskin, Hispaniolan Crossbill and Bicknell’s Thrush. It was also nice to see all the NA warblers on their winter grounds down there: Northern Parula, Yellow, Cape May (lots), Myrtle, Black-throated Blue, Pine (lots), Prairie (lots), Palm, Black-and-white, American Redstart (lots), Ovenbird (lots) and Northern and Louisiana Waterthrush.
We finished the third leg of our Caribbean trip in Puerto Rico. We thought PR would be the best part of the trip for birds but actually had more species and more life birds in Dominican Republic. Highlights in PR were Adelaide’s and Elfin woods Warbler, Green-throated Carib, PR Flycatcher, PR Vireo and PR Tody which gave us the last of the world’s 5 Tody species endemic to the Caribbean islands. Total new species for the trip was 64 – trip reports for all 3 islands with photos are on the website at https://worldbirdtraveler.com/ - click on Caribbean!
Derek Matthews
VARC
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Great for gifts and such Elena.?
Keith taylor
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On Feb 25, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Elena Ballam via Groups.Io < elle.ballam@...> wrote: Hi bird friends!
I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I figured some might be interested in some bird art. I'm a bird lover and artist, and I've been busy making cards, stickers and pins. I have a little shop on Etsy of my bird art and would love some feedback from fellow bird enthusiasts!?
I'm also attaching a photo of what I believe was a Coopers Hawk that landed on my balcony over the weekend! Quality isn't great as I didn't want to attempt to get closer and scare her off. Shortly after though, one of my cats took care of that when he tried to get a closer look haha.
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Hi bird friends!
I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I figured some might be interested in some bird art. I'm a bird lover and artist, and I've been busy making cards, stickers and pins. I have a little shop on Etsy of my bird art and would love some feedback from fellow bird enthusiasts!?
I'm also attaching a photo of what I believe was a Coopers Hawk that landed on my balcony over the weekend! Quality isn't great as I didn't want to attempt to get closer and scare her off. Shortly after though, one of my cats took care of that when he tried to get a closer look haha.
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Re: New birding board game Wingspan
I really like Wingspan! I play a lot of board games and it's the game I never dreamed would exist - solid gameplay and accurate bird info. All the birds have 1-3 habitats they can live in (forest, grasslands, water), different types of food they can eat (grain, bugs, berries, fish, rats), a nest type, a number of eggs, a size and beautiful art, all of which are correct for the species. Most birds have a gameplay power, which often relates to the behaviour of the birds. For example, nest parasites like Cowbirds lay eggs on other people's turns, and Chickadees cache grain for points. The European expansion adds many new birds and interesting powers, and an Oceania expansion is coming.
It's available from 401 games, as linked, and probably in stock at local games stores as well.
-Holly Becker
Wingspan is a competitive, medium-weight, card-driven,
engine-building board game from designer Elizabeth Hargrave and
Stonemaier Games. It is the winner of the prestigious 2019 Kennerspiel
des Jahres award.
?You are bird enthusiasts—researchers, bird watchers, ornithologists,
and collectors—seeking to discover and attract the best birds to your
network of wildlife preserves. Each bird extends a chain of powerful
combinations in one of your habitats (actions). These habitats focus on
several key aspects of growth:
Gain food tokens via custom dice in a birdfeeder dice tower
Lay eggs using egg miniatures in a variety of colors
Draw from hundreds of unique bird cards and play them
The winner is the player with the most points after 4 rounds.
Number of Players: 1-5
Playing Time: 40-70 Minutes
Recommended Ages: 10+
Canadian price $52.95
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Sometimes re-booting your devices works a charm.
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On Feb 17, 2020, at 4:14 PM, marcia mason via Groups.Io <mugsycrumble@...> wrote:
? Hi ALL:
I was wondering if anyone else who has the eBird app is having difficulties since it was updated.? Mine is frozen.
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Hi ALL:
I was wondering if anyone else who has the eBird app is having difficulties since it was updated.? Mine is frozen.
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New birding board game Wingspan
Wingspan is a competitive, medium-weight, card-driven,
engine-building board game from designer Elizabeth Hargrave and
Stonemaier Games. It is the winner of the prestigious 2019 Kennerspiel
des Jahres award.
?You are bird enthusiasts—researchers, bird watchers, ornithologists,
and collectors—seeking to discover and attract the best birds to your
network of wildlife preserves. Each bird extends a chain of powerful
combinations in one of your habitats (actions). These habitats focus on
several key aspects of growth:
Gain food tokens via custom dice in a birdfeeder dice tower
Lay eggs using egg miniatures in a variety of colors
Draw from hundreds of unique bird cards and play them
The winner is the player with the most points after 4 rounds.
Number of Players: 1-5
Playing Time: 40-70 Minutes
Recommended Ages: 10+
Canadian price $52.95
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Derek Matthews
Paul Kusmin
John Gordon
pat.mary.taylor
