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Re: There but unseen


 

Daniel,

When you say "does it count"?, we need to be clear about what you mean. Does
it count on anybody's life list, such as the person who was monitoring the
satellite tracking? The answer would have to be "no", because he/she did not
actually see or hear the bird.

On the other hand, if you mean "does it count" on the official list of the
country or state where the bird was recorded, I think the answer should be
"yes". As you point out, it would be up to the records committee of the area
in question, but I'm sure most records committees would accept such a
record. It would be similar to a record of a bird found freshly dead, which
had not been carried there by a motor vehicle or something. You can't count
a dead bird on your life list, but of course a records committee would
accept it.

An interesting question, as Derek said!

Good luck and good birding to all,

Wayne Weber
contopus@...

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel
Bastaja
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 8:17 AM
To: Vanbirds
Subject: [vanbcbirds] There but unseen

A question for birders. If satellite tracking shows that a bird was in, or
flew over a country (or a province like B.C.) where the species has never
been seen before, does it count as an official record even though nobody
actually saw it? If anyone knows, your comments would be appreciated.

This is the first question that came to mind when I read this article about
a vagrant Ring-billed Gull in Europe.



Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

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