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--- In toyota-campers@..., "Nolan " <rockhound@n...> wrote:

That would be a heck of a deal if you can pick the one ton rear up
for a few hundred bucks Jacka2, when I went looking several years
back I only found a couple used ones in the wrecking yards, and you
would have thought they were gold plated for the prices they wanted.
Your 86 Sunrader didn't have the axle upgrade in it already? Did it
have the old style dual wheels on it?

Nolan.

My 86 was stock with the one ton axle. I bought it from
the original owner. It is a late 86 Sunrader Pop up. So
far, I've seen no others.

That Rv trader site is awesome. I didn't know there were
that many TMHs around. Are they really getting those
prices?

As to prices, I guess I'm way too optimistic on what
that Axle will cost. It sounds like the word was out
to the bone yards in your area. Hope its not universal.
I'll let you know come spring.

Where are you located? Im in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Brrrrr!


Jack A2

Mary I agree with jack, the best place to find the different verisions of the toyota motorhomes is the auto trader website they have over 100 toyotas. The last year was the 1993 model. Between 1989 and 1993 they were made with only the V6. I have heard nothing but great things from toyota camper owners. You can find very reasonably priced early 90's models. Also you will find that the cost to repair this campers is much cheaper than rialta's and lesharo's.
Best of luck in your search. Feel free to ask the group any other questions about these great little campers.
Nate

That would be a heck of a deal if you can pick the one ton rear up
for a few hundred bucks Jacka2, when I went looking several years
back I only found a couple used ones in the wrecking yards, and you
would have thought they were gold plated for the prices they wanted.
Your 86 Sunrader didn't have the axle upgrade in it already? Did it
have the old style dual wheels on it?

Hi Mary, 93 was the last year for the toyota based motorhomes, there
were many companies that built them over the years in many variations
and sizes. Heres a site you might take a look at just to get an idea
as to whats out there and the kind of prices they are trying to get.

when that site comes up type in toyota in the keyword box and hit
search and you'll be knee deep in toyota motorhomes. Have fun :)

--- In toyota-campers@..., "Mary Schilpp" <msclp@a...> wrote:

I had no idea that there were Toyota based RVs. I heard about this
site from the Rialta Egroup site, which I have been reading to

gather

info before an RV purchase. I currently have a 1999 VW Eurovan, and
it is already in the shop getting a new transmission (at 16K miles).

I have had much better luck w/ my two previous vehicles- a 1984
Corolla, and a 91 MR2 (which I still have) The idea of a Toyota
motorhome is very intriging, since I've never had any major problems
w/ either of these vehicles. But, I assume that there are no NEW
Toyota based MH's, so what is the last year that they were produced?
I would love to have a new/almost new one, figuring there would be
fewer problems. What can I look for in terms of latest model years?

I see from previous posts that there were Chinooks, and other

models.

If there might be a website where I could get this type of info,
please point me in the direction. Thank you for any help you can

give me...Mar




Mar, welcome to our list.

No, sad to say there are no new Toyota MHs or campers.
And this site, although new, has most of the info you
seek. Check the Archives.

I ran VW Vanagons for years, but went with Toyota as
VW parts were impossible to find outside of major citys.

If I looking for a later model Toyota RV (they made them
up into the 90s) I would consider a Toyota/Winnabago.
I looked at a 91, 22ft (6 cyl) for $12,500 last summer.
I have seen others in the $14k range. Many of the older
Toyota Mhs are in fine conditon, with low milage.

Check the RV ad sites on line and search the newspapers.
You are bound to find a one owner beauty out there.

Jack A2
86 Sunrader Pop-up 20ft.

Nolan,

Thanks for the come-back.

I went out to the bone yard that had the flat bed,
and they were all locked up and heaped high with
snow. Looks like a Spring project, but I will go
early in case they do "Spring cleaning" and send
that machine to the crusher before I can score
that rear end and spring assembly.

I've bought parts from a couple of Bone yards in
my area and I've found all the stuff to be real
cheap, if you pull the part yourself. In this
case I'm going to try to get the man to torch it
off for me at the spring/body mounts.

I already pulled some stuff off this flat bed this
summer. (Jack, handle, and some dash parts). I hope
it's still there.

I think it was Benton who asked about costs. IMHO
I don't believe a bone yard rear end and spring
assembly would cost much over a $150 + - $50,
as there is little demand for 80s Toyota truck
parts. Most have long ago rusted away up here.

And speaking of rusted away, JC Whitney has
front fenders for our Toyotas - super cheap.
$24 - $29 ea. I bought a pair this fall on
sale at $24. I put the left one on, and stored
the right one for future use. They seem to be
the same gauge metal as stock.

Jack A2
86 Sunrader 20' pop up.

I had no idea that there were Toyota based RVs. I heard about this
site from the Rialta Egroup site, which I have been reading to gather
info before an RV purchase. I currently have a 1999 VW Eurovan, and
it is already in the shop getting a new transmission (at 16K miles).
I have had much better luck w/ my two previous vehicles- a 1984
Corolla, and a 91 MR2 (which I still have) The idea of a Toyota
motorhome is very intriging, since I've never had any major problems
w/ either of these vehicles. But, I assume that there are no NEW
Toyota based MH's, so what is the last year that they were produced?
I would love to have a new/almost new one, figuring there would be
fewer problems. What can I look for in terms of latest model years?
I see from previous posts that there were Chinooks, and other models.
If there might be a website where I could get this type of info,
please point me in the direction. Thank you for any help you can give
me. - Mar

I agree with you. I am all for there being as many clubs or groups out there as possible. When I started this group I was unable to find any groups for toyotas at all. It seemed I could find groups or clubs for every other type of motorhome ever made except Toyota-based. I wanted to get as members as possible in this group in order to build a wide amount of information and experiences. I think the more information we get the more enjoyable this site will be to us and to future members. I have been shocked and excited with how fast our group has grown in just a week, I want to thank everyone who has helped spread the word on this site. I also encourage people to post links to any other sites pertaining to Toyota campers.
Best Wishes,
Nate

Hello members, This disscusion group has had great response and
participation, glad to be part of it. I just wanted to make a
suggestion regarding the club I started under yahoo clubs, the
address is listed under the links page for toyota motorhomes. I don't
want to take anything from this group or run competition with it but
would rather work with it and refer to each other back and forth
beings were the same members on both sites and have the same
interests. Newcomers to one could find the other and the yahoo site
offers the members a place to post photos of there pride and joy.
What do you think?

--- In toyota-campers@..., "Benton " <wildlife@i...> wrote:

--- In toyota-campers@..., theeagle@k... wrote:

I was wondering how much your solar panels package cost and how

difficult it was to install? It seems like solar panels make alot
more sense than a generator.

Nate

Nate

You can get a single good unbreakable panel for about 300.00 and
the best battery system is a couple of 6 volt golfcart batteries

tied

together to get 12 volts. These run around 40.00 a battery (at Sams
Wholesale), you might also want to get a 50.00 regulator to stop you
from overcharging your battery. I can be more specific, just give me
an idea of what you are wanting to power. I can also give you some
good ideas on mounting and send some pics as well.

Benton

Benton/Nate

Others (me too) would be interested in the Info on
the solar panels.

If you would post the info here (less pics)it will
go into the Archive.

E-mails between list members are fine, but they do
not add to the overall knowledge of this list's
members.

Let's all post to the list when ever we can. We will
be glad we did in a year or two, when we, and newcomers
to the list, begin to use the Archives.

Jack A2.

I went out to start my camper this evening and the battery was all but dead, might have left the key in the aux. position a few days ago. The coach lights were golden and she wouldn't turn over. It also doesn't help that is about 5 degrees here in Ohio. I guess I'll have to get the jumpers out tommorrow. How often do you guys start your campers up during the winter?
Nate

Hello Benton, You asked me to reply to your E Mail via the club
message board concerning the 4X4 conversion on my Chinook, beings
Toyota didn't build a 4x4 until 79 I took the 76 Chinook stripped it
to the bare frame, cut the frame in half and grafted on the front
frame section of a early 80's toyota 4x4 pickup, built new cab
mounts to fit the older cab, fabricated the floorboard tunnel to
clear the trans and transfer case, bumper mounts had to be fabbed,
inner fenderwells had to be reshaped to clear shocks and steering,
steering column had to be adapted to hook up to the 4x4 steering box,
brake lines had to be built and rerouted, rear differential had to be
changed to match the front, rear suspension needed upgraded to the
4x4 type, plus other fitting and fabricating on shifters, drivelines,
ect. The end results were fine, it drives and handles fine and
typical toyota dependability for going on 13 years now.
As far as feasible to convert your 79 Sunrader? Hard one to call,
depends on wether you do the work yourself or have to farm it out. On
the older model motorhomes sometimes they will call a 78 a 79 and so
on, a true 78 still had the 4 headlights a 79 body had single lights,
if yours is a 78 body the conversion would be basiclly the same, if
its a 79 body the ideal swap would be find a 79-83 4x4 and set the
camper body on that, it would be a lot less work and a fairly easy
4x4 conversion. Sunrader actually built some factory 4x4 motorhomes
in 84-85 on the standard and Xcab chassis's. Hope this helps and
gives you some ideas.

Thanks for the info on the panels. I would be running house lights, water pump, and possibly a small tv. This is a possible future project.
Thanks,
Nate

--- In toyota-campers@..., theeagle@k... wrote:

I was wondering how much your solar panels package cost and how

difficult it was to install? It seems like solar panels make alot
more sense than a generator.

Nate

Nate

You can get a single good unbreakable panel for about 300.00 and
the best battery system is a couple of 6 volt golfcart batteries tied
together to get 12 volts. These run around 40.00 a battery (at Sams
Wholesale), you might also want to get a 50.00 regulator to stop you
from overcharging your battery. I can be more specific, just give me
an idea of what you are wanting to power. I can also give you some
good ideas on mounting and send some pics as well.

Benton

I would take a look on the roof to see if there are any visible cracks. Then I would buy a can of that black tar for roofs and slap it on any possible leak areas or seems. I was able to repair some leaks I had on a previous truck camper this way. As far as piston slap I would try an oil additive such as dura lube, motor-up, or slick 50. I have used all of these products on previous vehicles. I put dura lube and motor-up in my Toyota this summer. On our 6,000 mile vacation this summer I only used 2 quarts of oil, and that was during the last 2,000 miles.
Nate

I was wondering how much your solar panels package cost and how difficult it was to install? It seems like solar panels make alot more sense than a generator.
Nate

I am glad you were able to find the site. I hope you find the posts interesting and informative. Spread the word on the site we are up to 17 members in less than a week.
Nate

Thanks to all for the tips. As for the piston slap, I have always used toyota filters. The mechanics here say it could be a piece of carbon and one has customer (4 -runner) with 250,000 and a piston slap that started at about 25,000. So I guess I won't worry until excessive oil use starts or something like that.

I tried Toyota (no help and evasive about their participation before))and even a while back traced down a lead on an axel kit from coachman but they wouldn't sell to me because mine was a huntsman. Of couse as they say about paybacks - I travel alot and never miss the chance to talk about what they wouldn't do for me - so I hope it has cost them a sale or two.

It appears to me that after you go on the natl. transportation site and look at all the axel problems, even recently, with toyota rvs and in view of the fact that toyota recognized the problem and was willing to help (accepting some responsibility by doing so)at one time, a case could be made to them to help again.

I certainly am a good customer with three toyotas including a 19991 Rav.

Any thoughts out there?

George

From: "Nolan " <rockhound@...>
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Help with first RV
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:56:44 -0000

Hi George, Water leaks can be a real bugger to find sometimes, it
can leak on one side and migrate across the roof before showing up on
the other side. The roof edge molding might be a good place to check,
or the clearance lights across the front. Good luck on your hunt.
About 4 years ago when I replaced the rear axle in my toyhouse I
was told the recall was over but there were still 2 or 3 of the coach
manufacturers still standing behind the axle upgrade, Dolphin was one
of them, can't remember the others. If the particular coach was on
the recall list and not checked off they would supply the axle kit
but you had to pay freight and installation to have it fixed, during
the recall it was free of charge for the total package. Most of the
numerous coach builders at the time couldn't absorb the cost of the
recall so they went out of business or filed bankruptcy, or reopened
under another name ect. My Odessey was one that didn't get fixed so
when I went looking for a rear axle, Toyota quoated me around 3700.00
for the axle kit not installed. Used ones that I found ranged from
1700. to 1900.00 as is no warranty. I really couldn't justify that
expense so I was about to give up when I found one in a nickel ad
paper a guy had for sale, turned out it was brand new still in the
crate, one of the recall kits that never got installed and I paid
1000.00 for it. At todays prices I don't know what they sell for but
there may be more used ones around so they might be easier to find.

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Hi George, Water leaks can be a real bugger to find sometimes, it
can leak on one side and migrate across the roof before showing up on
the other side. The roof edge molding might be a good place to check,
or the clearance lights across the front. Good luck on your hunt.
About 4 years ago when I replaced the rear axle in my toyhouse I
was told the recall was over but there were still 2 or 3 of the coach
manufacturers still standing behind the axle upgrade, Dolphin was one
of them, can't remember the others. If the particular coach was on
the recall list and not checked off they would supply the axle kit
but you had to pay freight and installation to have it fixed, during
the recall it was free of charge for the total package. Most of the
numerous coach builders at the time couldn't absorb the cost of the
recall so they went out of business or filed bankruptcy, or reopened
under another name ect. My Odessey was one that didn't get fixed so
when I went looking for a rear axle, Toyota quoated me around 3700.00
for the axle kit not installed. Used ones that I found ranged from
1700. to 1900.00 as is no warranty. I really couldn't justify that
expense so I was about to give up when I found one in a nickel ad
paper a guy had for sale, turned out it was brand new still in the
crate, one of the recall kits that never got installed and I paid
1000.00 for it. At todays prices I don't know what they sell for but
there may be more used ones around so they might be easier to find.

Nate I made it to the site. I'm a previous Toyota motorhome owner. I
traded for a newer Nissan motorhome. I loved the Toyota and made
alot of trips in it. I pulled a 19ft inboard boat about 600 miles
into Canada fishing several years ago. The 4cyl 4 speed didn't run
away from traffic, but got there in good fashion. The Nissan I just
got is a 4cyl 5 speed, Mini-cruiser. It runs and drives real well
and I am looking forward to going to the Rockies from Ohio next
summer in it. If anyone else has owned a Nissan Motorhome let me
hear from you. Mike