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--- In toyota-campers@..., "Nolan " <rockhound@n...> wrote:

No real quick fixes that I know of, you might luck out if yours is
mounted in the exhaust manifold just before it goes into the head
pipe, if so you can reach it from under the hood pretty easy, 2

bolts

and unplug it is all there is to it. If its underneath in the pipe I
would wait till the snow melts too :) Soak the bolts good with some
penetrating oil so they won't snap off on you, they get brittle from
the heat. You could take the bulb out of the light, HA HA

Nolan.

Ok on the bulb out. I guess a peice tape is good too.

I appear to be using more fuel so it must be reading low
or open (running rich). One thing I will do, is bang
around it with a hammer in hopes of dislodging a piece
of crud or maybe just to make me feel better.

I have to go down to Orlando in Feb and hate to burn
the extra gas. I'll check my millage and if it's too
bad I'll do a "field fix" before I drive back.

I could also clip the wire and feed the computer
a nice clean 1/2 volt and lean her right out. :)

Thanks for the reply.

Jack A2

--- In toyota-campers@..., "Nolan " <rockhound@n...> wrote:

Hey Benton, the easiest way to tell the true 1 ton floater axle is

by

the large center hub and they have a large 6 bolt lugnut pattern as
opposed to the small 5 lug pattern on the stock truck. The
motorhomes converted under the recall have the stock 5 lug wheel in
front and the 6 lug hole in rear. A true 1 ton chassis has the large
6 lug in front and rear and use the same wheels front and back. Hope
this helps some.

Nolan.

Great info in your post. I went right out and counted
lug nuts. 6 nuts in rear. 5 nuts in front. Mine is a
conversion.

The PO didn't mention it, so my guess is, it was done
at Sunrader before they sold it. Date of Sunrader
Mfg: 8-86. Date of Toyota Mfg. 4-86.

More great stuff for the Archive.

Jack A2

No real quick fixes that I know of, you might luck out if yours is
mounted in the exhaust manifold just before it goes into the head
pipe, if so you can reach it from under the hood pretty easy, 2 bolts
and unplug it is all there is to it. If its underneath in the pipe I
would wait till the snow melts too :) Soak the bolts good with some
penetrating oil so they won't snap off on you, they get brittle from
the heat. You could take the bulb out of the light, HA HA

Hey Benton, the easiest way to tell the true 1 ton floater axle is by
the large center hub and they have a large 6 bolt lugnut pattern as
opposed to the small 5 lug pattern on the stock truck. The
motorhomes converted under the recall have the stock 5 lug wheel in
front and the 6 lug hole in rear. A true 1 ton chassis has the large
6 lug in front and rear and use the same wheels front and back. Hope
this helps some.

--- In toyota-campers@..., "Benton " <wildlife@i...> wrote:

OK here we go.

I went and got the dulies of the ole Toyota wrecker today and

started

wondering if perhaps this ole peice of junk might have a 1 ton axel
on it. He only wants 75.00 dollers for the axel, so it would be

quite

the blessing. I wrote all the numbers of the door panel and took

them

to a dealership, but they could not tell me if it was a 1 ton. I

then

called Toyota headquarters and they could not either. The question
is: how do you tell if an axel is a 1 ton. This Toyota is a 77, did
they make a 1 ton then? here is all the info I got off the door

panel

GUAR 4100/1860
GAWR
FRT. 1850/840

REAR 2540/1152 E78

VIN RN42-027323


Any help would be appreaciated. I also appreciate the advice already
given.

Benton

It's doubtful the 77 had a floating axle (true one ton).

Please re-read all the posts from Nolan.

The one ton axle is easy to identify. It has large center
hub that protrudes into the outside wheel of the pair.
Look at the dual wheels on an 18 wheeler's trailer, and
you will get the Idea. The Toyota's one ton hub is the
same, only smaller.

Jack A2

OK here we go.

I went and got the dulies of the ole Toyota wrecker today and started
wondering if perhaps this ole peice of junk might have a 1 ton axel
on it. He only wants 75.00 dollers for the axel, so it would be quite
the blessing. I wrote all the numbers of the door panel and took them
to a dealership, but they could not tell me if it was a 1 ton. I then
called Toyota headquarters and they could not either. The question
is: how do you tell if an axel is a 1 ton. This Toyota is a 77, did
they make a 1 ton then? here is all the info I got off the door panel

GUAR 4100/1860
GAWR
FRT. 1850/840
REAR 2540/1152 E78

VIN RN42-027323


Any help would be appreaciated. I also appreciate the advice already
given.

Yes they sell the trucks off you can go to uhaul.com and find a link to
trucks but I am sure by know all those are long sold by uhaul but maybe a
private owner might have one to sell. I wanted to get a trailer but they
won't sell the trailers because they claim they have them manufactured just
for them and there are trade secrets into the design.

MY 86 22RE (FI) Sunrader's check engine light comes
on after about 20 min of drive time. When I let off
the gas peddle it goes out and stays out for about
10 mins then comes on again. This repeats itself.
It also flashes when I let off the gas to go down
an off ramp.

I did the code check and it shows 5 flashs = oxygen
sensor.

My question is; does anyone have a quick fix I might
try, as it's to cold to get out there and fight with
getting that oxy sensor off.

Jack A2

My friend's 1985 Sunrader, 19 ft had both rear wheel
bearings fail. He had just purchased the rig and took
a 5k trip out west.

He lucked out and was back in Mi when a motorist pulled
along side of him and told him his left rear wheel was
smoking. He took the rig in to a local shop and they re-
placed the Rt and Lt bearings. The fix lasted 150 miles.

End result was both axles had to be replaced, plus bearings
and misc. his cost was around $1,400 which I thought
was reasonable. He got his money back from the first shop.
The old bearings were junk and the one on the right was in
pieces.

My friend's Sunrader has after market duals and the bearings
went out at 77k. He does not overload, but does not watch
his tire pressure as well as he should.

If anyone else on the list knows of a bearing failure, the
millage on it when it failed would be valued info for
our Archive.

Jack A2
86 Sunrader Pop Up.

Someone,on another list,was talking about the Toyota
truck they had rented from Ryder, back in the eightys.
I too rented one of these. It was a Toyota 4cyl with
dual wheels. That's all I remember. At the time, I
was really surprised at what it would haul,and how
well it drove.

So, the questions are; what happened to all those
Trucks? Are some of them still setting around in behind
Rental outlets? What do these rental chains do with old
trucks? Can we find these hidden grave yards, and are
they treasure troves of old 1 ton axles and such?

Anyone know the answers?


I have two more subjects to discuss, but I will post
them separate to help maintain our Archive.

Jack A2

Someone,on another list,was talking about the Toyota
truck they had rented from Ryder, back in the eightys.
I too rented one of these. It was a Toyota 4cyl with
dual wheels. That's all I remember. At the time, I
was really surprised at what it would haul,and how
well it drove.

So, the questions are; what happened to all those
Trucks? Are some of them still setting around in behind
Rental outlets? What do these rental chains do with old
trucks? Can we find these hidden grave yards, and, are
they, treasure troves of old 1 ton axles and such?

Anyone know the answers?


I have two more subjects to discuss, but I will post
them separate to help maintain our Archive.

Jack A2

Marcus,
I am with Jack that sounds like alot of work. I would either try to
find a used toyota camper which you could fix-up or I would try to
find a small truck camper that fits you existing pick-up. You culd
always modify an older camper to fit your needs, engine, tranny and so
on. Best of Luck! Nate

I am able to use 5th gear just about all of time. Only have to down
shift going up mountains, I usually can hold 5th as long as the grade
isn't too steep and long. Or if I am driving into a strong headwind
20+mph. Still using fourth I am taching less than my dad with his 4
speed in 4th. The only drawback with the 5 speed is you have to shift
a little more, but the mileage and less engine wear is worth it. Nate

i HAVN'T DONE IT YET . tHOSE QUESTIONS YOU POSED ARE WHAT IS HOLDING ME
BACK. I CAN MAINTAIN 60 MPH MOST OF THE TIME ALONE AND 65 DRAFTING A BIG
RIG. i CALCULATE AVVERAGE 47 MPH ON A LONG HALL. ON THE HILLS i AM IN 3RD A
LOT OF THE TIME. OVER ALL i AM VERY PLEASED WITH THE RIDE. i NOTICED THAT
THE WHEEL bALANCE MADE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE SMOTHNESS.
MY MILEAGE IS 15 MPG MIN. i DON'T FEEL THAT IS TOO BAD FOR A 4 CYL. 22R WITH
ALL THAT WEIGHT AND WIND RESISTANCE.

HAPPY TRAVELIN

C. Howard Walker
Phone= 704/549-6568

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-----Original Message-----
From: Nolan [mailto:rockhound@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:09 PM
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] 4 or 5 speed


Hi Howard, hope you get many miles of enjoyment out of your Dolphin,
changing from a 4spd to 5spd shouldn't pose any big problems, shifter
location, driveline length will change, but the one area that may be
different is the trans crossmember. I ran into that on my Chinook
when I changed it to a 5spd, if it originally came with a 4spd the
crossmember and frame brackets were in one spot, 5spd another, so it
required building new brackets and modifying the crossmember to fit.
The rear end gearing will be the same either way.
Nate, Your right you don't see many with the 5spd stock, how does
yours do out on the road in 5th? does it have enough power to pull it
along? or every wind gust or uphill and your back to 4th.


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Marcus, you have entirely too much time on your hands. Just go buy a Sunrader and forget ALL the headaches you would have trying to do a conversion.

Jack

From: rmarcusb@...
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Sunrader Conversion
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 02:13:06 -0000

I just saw a Sunrader up close for the first time and thought it
would
be the perfect RV for my use. Then I discovered this site and the
posts have answered my questions, I think. So, if someone could
confirm/correct my understandings, I'd appreciate it.

My desire is to find an old, small Sunrader camper, take it off the
existing vehicle, and place it on my '94 Toyota X-cab 4x4 4-cyl
5-speed standard-frame (1/2-ton) pickup. My original idea was to
simply remove the pickup bed and beef up the suspension before
installing the camper. However, my research suggests the following:

1) The 1/2-ton frame may be too weak to handle the weight of the
Sunrader camper. There may not be anything I can do about this.
What might a Sunraider camper weigh? Even if the frame can handle
the
weight, how does it bolt on?

2) The rear axle may also be too weak, but it could be upgraded to a
1-ton axle. Beefing up other suspension parts should not be a
problem.

3) The 4-cyl engine may be realy wimpy with the camper. It's pretty
weak in my truck as-is.

4) Dualies would be most helpful. The aftermarket bolt-on dualies
may pose problems, as might less than 6-ply tires.

Do I understand these issues correctly? Is there anything else I
should consider?

Thanks for any responses. I'm glad to find this site.

Marcus

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I just saw a Sunrader up close for the first time and thought it
would
be the perfect RV for my use. Then I discovered this site and the
posts have answered my questions, I think. So, if someone could
confirm/correct my understandings, I'd appreciate it.

My desire is to find an old, small Sunrader camper, take it off the
existing vehicle, and place it on my '94 Toyota X-cab 4x4 4-cyl
5-speed standard-frame (1/2-ton) pickup. My original idea was to
simply remove the pickup bed and beef up the suspension before
installing the camper. However, my research suggests the following:

1) The 1/2-ton frame may be too weak to handle the weight of the
Sunrader camper. There may not be anything I can do about this.
What might a Sunraider camper weigh? Even if the frame can handle
the
weight, how does it bolt on?

2) The rear axle may also be too weak, but it could be upgraded to a
1-ton axle. Beefing up other suspension parts should not be a
problem.

3) The 4-cyl engine may be realy wimpy with the camper. It's pretty
weak in my truck as-is.

4) Dualies would be most helpful. The aftermarket bolt-on dualies
may pose problems, as might less than 6-ply tires.

Do I understand these issues correctly? Is there anything else I
should consider?

Thanks for any responses. I'm glad to find this site.

Marcus

Hi Howard, hope you get many miles of enjoyment out of your Dolphin,
changing from a 4spd to 5spd shouldn't pose any big problems, shifter
location, driveline length will change, but the one area that may be
different is the trans crossmember. I ran into that on my Chinook
when I changed it to a 5spd, if it originally came with a 4spd the
crossmember and frame brackets were in one spot, 5spd another, so it
required building new brackets and modifying the crossmember to fit.
The rear end gearing will be the same either way.
Nate, Your right you don't see many with the 5spd stock, how does
yours do out on the road in 5th? does it have enough power to pull it
along? or every wind gust or uphill and your back to 4th.

I do not know about converting a 4 speed to a 5 speed. My grandpa
converted his 1986 Toyota auto to a 5 speed and couldn't be happier.
His mileage jumped from around 12-13 to 16-18mpg. I know when he had
it converted they used a 5 speed trany from a early 90's regular
pick-up. The had to modify the drive train length, but otherwise it
was not to difficult.

My dad owns a 1978 Toyota 17ft. 4 speed which is pretty basic on the
inside. It funs great with plenty of low end power but on vacation I
would get between 18-20mpg with my 5 speed fuel injected four carry a
loaded 21ft and he would get 16-18mpg. It seems the 4 speed is geared
to go between 35-45mph, going down moutain roads I would gain ground
on him coasting in 5th or 4th gear. Dad always complains about
needing one more gear. He always gets his best mileage cruising
through Yellowstone Park, but last year I beat him, he got around
22mpg, but I got 27mpg.

We always say that campers were made to cruise in, not race in. Most
campers will beat us up a hill but we enjoy the scenery and get even
at the gas pumps. Nate

Hello Piper,
You can find a description of my camper on post 96. I want to welcome
you to the wonderfull world of Toyota campers. I think that you will
enjoy your new camper greatly. I have owned my camper since May 2000
and have traveled from Ohio to the Pacific Northwest and to upstate
New York already. I previously owned a truck camper, which was I
enjoyed but it doesn't compare to my Toyota. I come from a family of
toyota camper owners. You can read more about me by reading the posts
from theeagle@...
I hope you enjoy the site and spread the word about it. We are up to
29 members in two weeks!
Nate

If I , Can I change the tranny 4speed for a 5 speed do I have to
change the rear end also .