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I am able to use 5th gear just about all of time. Only have to down
shift going up mountains, I usually can hold 5th as long as the grade
isn't too steep and long. Or if I am driving into a strong headwind
20+mph. Still using fourth I am taching less than my dad with his 4
speed in 4th. The only drawback with the 5 speed is you have to shift
a little more, but the mileage and less engine wear is worth it. Nate

i HAVN'T DONE IT YET . tHOSE QUESTIONS YOU POSED ARE WHAT IS HOLDING ME
BACK. I CAN MAINTAIN 60 MPH MOST OF THE TIME ALONE AND 65 DRAFTING A BIG
RIG. i CALCULATE AVVERAGE 47 MPH ON A LONG HALL. ON THE HILLS i AM IN 3RD A
LOT OF THE TIME. OVER ALL i AM VERY PLEASED WITH THE RIDE. i NOTICED THAT
THE WHEEL bALANCE MADE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE SMOTHNESS.
MY MILEAGE IS 15 MPG MIN. i DON'T FEEL THAT IS TOO BAD FOR A 4 CYL. 22R WITH
ALL THAT WEIGHT AND WIND RESISTANCE.

HAPPY TRAVELIN

C. Howard Walker
Phone= 704/549-6568

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From: Nolan [mailto:rockhound@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:09 PM
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] 4 or 5 speed


Hi Howard, hope you get many miles of enjoyment out of your Dolphin,
changing from a 4spd to 5spd shouldn't pose any big problems, shifter
location, driveline length will change, but the one area that may be
different is the trans crossmember. I ran into that on my Chinook
when I changed it to a 5spd, if it originally came with a 4spd the
crossmember and frame brackets were in one spot, 5spd another, so it
required building new brackets and modifying the crossmember to fit.
The rear end gearing will be the same either way.
Nate, Your right you don't see many with the 5spd stock, how does
yours do out on the road in 5th? does it have enough power to pull it
along? or every wind gust or uphill and your back to 4th.


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Marcus, you have entirely too much time on your hands. Just go buy a Sunrader and forget ALL the headaches you would have trying to do a conversion.

Jack

From: rmarcusb@...
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To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Sunrader Conversion
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 02:13:06 -0000

I just saw a Sunrader up close for the first time and thought it
would
be the perfect RV for my use. Then I discovered this site and the
posts have answered my questions, I think. So, if someone could
confirm/correct my understandings, I'd appreciate it.

My desire is to find an old, small Sunrader camper, take it off the
existing vehicle, and place it on my '94 Toyota X-cab 4x4 4-cyl
5-speed standard-frame (1/2-ton) pickup. My original idea was to
simply remove the pickup bed and beef up the suspension before
installing the camper. However, my research suggests the following:

1) The 1/2-ton frame may be too weak to handle the weight of the
Sunrader camper. There may not be anything I can do about this.
What might a Sunraider camper weigh? Even if the frame can handle
the
weight, how does it bolt on?

2) The rear axle may also be too weak, but it could be upgraded to a
1-ton axle. Beefing up other suspension parts should not be a
problem.

3) The 4-cyl engine may be realy wimpy with the camper. It's pretty
weak in my truck as-is.

4) Dualies would be most helpful. The aftermarket bolt-on dualies
may pose problems, as might less than 6-ply tires.

Do I understand these issues correctly? Is there anything else I
should consider?

Thanks for any responses. I'm glad to find this site.

Marcus

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I just saw a Sunrader up close for the first time and thought it
would
be the perfect RV for my use. Then I discovered this site and the
posts have answered my questions, I think. So, if someone could
confirm/correct my understandings, I'd appreciate it.

My desire is to find an old, small Sunrader camper, take it off the
existing vehicle, and place it on my '94 Toyota X-cab 4x4 4-cyl
5-speed standard-frame (1/2-ton) pickup. My original idea was to
simply remove the pickup bed and beef up the suspension before
installing the camper. However, my research suggests the following:

1) The 1/2-ton frame may be too weak to handle the weight of the
Sunrader camper. There may not be anything I can do about this.
What might a Sunraider camper weigh? Even if the frame can handle
the
weight, how does it bolt on?

2) The rear axle may also be too weak, but it could be upgraded to a
1-ton axle. Beefing up other suspension parts should not be a
problem.

3) The 4-cyl engine may be realy wimpy with the camper. It's pretty
weak in my truck as-is.

4) Dualies would be most helpful. The aftermarket bolt-on dualies
may pose problems, as might less than 6-ply tires.

Do I understand these issues correctly? Is there anything else I
should consider?

Thanks for any responses. I'm glad to find this site.

Marcus

Hi Howard, hope you get many miles of enjoyment out of your Dolphin,
changing from a 4spd to 5spd shouldn't pose any big problems, shifter
location, driveline length will change, but the one area that may be
different is the trans crossmember. I ran into that on my Chinook
when I changed it to a 5spd, if it originally came with a 4spd the
crossmember and frame brackets were in one spot, 5spd another, so it
required building new brackets and modifying the crossmember to fit.
The rear end gearing will be the same either way.
Nate, Your right you don't see many with the 5spd stock, how does
yours do out on the road in 5th? does it have enough power to pull it
along? or every wind gust or uphill and your back to 4th.

I do not know about converting a 4 speed to a 5 speed. My grandpa
converted his 1986 Toyota auto to a 5 speed and couldn't be happier.
His mileage jumped from around 12-13 to 16-18mpg. I know when he had
it converted they used a 5 speed trany from a early 90's regular
pick-up. The had to modify the drive train length, but otherwise it
was not to difficult.

My dad owns a 1978 Toyota 17ft. 4 speed which is pretty basic on the
inside. It funs great with plenty of low end power but on vacation I
would get between 18-20mpg with my 5 speed fuel injected four carry a
loaded 21ft and he would get 16-18mpg. It seems the 4 speed is geared
to go between 35-45mph, going down moutain roads I would gain ground
on him coasting in 5th or 4th gear. Dad always complains about
needing one more gear. He always gets his best mileage cruising
through Yellowstone Park, but last year I beat him, he got around
22mpg, but I got 27mpg.

We always say that campers were made to cruise in, not race in. Most
campers will beat us up a hill but we enjoy the scenery and get even
at the gas pumps. Nate

Hello Piper,
You can find a description of my camper on post 96. I want to welcome
you to the wonderfull world of Toyota campers. I think that you will
enjoy your new camper greatly. I have owned my camper since May 2000
and have traveled from Ohio to the Pacific Northwest and to upstate
New York already. I previously owned a truck camper, which was I
enjoyed but it doesn't compare to my Toyota. I come from a family of
toyota camper owners. You can read more about me by reading the posts
from theeagle@...
I hope you enjoy the site and spread the word about it. We are up to
29 members in two weeks!
Nate

If I , Can I change the tranny 4speed for a 5 speed do I have to
change the rear end also .

--- In toyota-campers@..., theeagle@k... wrote:

Well I took the camper out for a little drive this morning. I

figured I haven't took it for a drive in a couple of weeks. It is
supposed to start snowing again today here in Ohio. How often do you
guys start your rigs or drive them in the winter?

nate

I start mine and drive weekly for two reasons 1 = the fuel dr4ains
out of the carburator and runs the battery down trying and 2 = I need
to keep the tires round.
Piper

I am an new owner of a 1984 Toyota / Dolphin 21ft With 87,000 miles .
It runs like a charm and everthing works { no Leaks Either } . My
Wife and I anticipate many miles and Hours of enjoyment. We are
retirement age [but havent done it yet].

I am an new owner of a 1984 Toyota / Dolphin 21ft With 87,000 miles .
It runs like a charm and everthing works { no Leaks Either } . My
Wife and I anticipate many miles and Hours of enjoyment. We are
retirement age [but havent done it yet].

Welcome to the group. I sorry, I can't help you with the owners
manual for your 84f dolphin. Hopefully another one of our members
might be able to help you.
Nate

If anyone knows where I can obtain an owners manual for a 1984
Toyota/ Dolphin 21 ft I would appreciate knowing.
I am willing to pay for copying and mailing.
Thanks for the help.!!!!!!!!!!

I have a 5 speed transmisson in my 1986 Toyota camper and I was
wondering if anyone else had one. My uncle has an 1984 Nissan camper
with a 5 speed. I know that they were all 4 speed manuals up until
about 84 or 85. It was a big reason I purchased my camper, better
mileage and longer life than automatics. Just curious!
Nate

Sorry forgot the . after www on both addresses,

Hi Benton,
I have seen a couple different types of dual conversions, one use
the stock wheels with long studs and a hub in between, the other uses
a special wheel with another wheel bolted to that one, I can't remark
on either as I have never had any experience with either one. My 78
Odessey had the type you found on the tow truck, when I bought it the
owners said they had never had any problems in all the years they
owned it, had around 74,000 miles, I was still uneasy about the
chances of any problems so thats why I changed to the bigger axle,
safety and piece of mind. I know several people that have the old
duals on Chinooks that have logged a bizillion miles without a
problem, and then others that have had several problems. True the
Chinooks are considerably lighter than there bigger cousins, and in
fact I took the old duals off my Odessey and put them on the 75
Chinook project rig I got, but haven't really put any miles on it
yet, so only time will tell. I guess what I.m trying to say is
whatever you feel comfortable with. I posted it before but will say
it again, when running the old duals a couple of helpful tips is to
check the lugnut tightness often and to run more air pressure in the
inside tire. The tightness keeps the wheels from flexing as much and
air pressure on the inside tire helps hold the load more over the
center of the bearing and less on the outside tire where the leverage
comes from.
I found a couple of sites surfing around if anyones interested in
sway bars or wants to Email them for more info,

--- In toyota-campers@..., "Benton " <wildlife@i...> wrote:

last one:

I have found a wheel adaptor kit for the toyota rims that would
allow you to create dulies. Would these be less stree than those old
aftermarket dulie rims. They are quite expensive.

Benton

Benton.

I would not put after market duals on EITHER machine.

It's not the wheels that are the problem. It's extending
the arm of the axle and putting more load on an already
under designed bearing set up. In other words, if the
wheels stick out further on each side, regardless of the
type of rims you choose, you have increased the bearing
load.

As Nolan said in his post, lots of them are on the road
with those aftermarket wheels. But remember they were re-
called because of a high rate of failure. They will dump
you on some "dark and stormy night". Thats why Nolan went
to all the trouble to switch to a 1 ton axle.

The wreckers wheels, are for sure, a safety improvment over
those two plys, but I would keep looking for a true one ton
axle, and in the mean time go with a sway bar and single
6 plys.

Jack A2

last one:

I have found a wheel adaptor kit for the toyota rims that would
allow you to create dulies. Would these be less stree than those old
aftermarket dulie rims. They are quite expensive.

Benton

I am also wondering: If this is veto'ed for the Sunrader. perhaps I
should get the dulies for the Chinook. It weighs less than the
Sunrader, but it does tend to drift on the road with the 6 ply
singles on it.

Benton

Well, as I have said before: my Sunrader does not have dulies and at
this point has very wide 2 ply tires (very unsafe) I have finally
located a 4 ply to fit this rim, but today I located the original
type dulie rims for my camper. They are strange looking, almost like
one rim and deeply inset. I can get them for 100.00 , for both.

Now also to take into consideration is the fact that my Sunrader is
very small. You can see a picture on the motorhome sight refered to
in the links on this sight. It does not weigh as much as most.

The rims are currently on a little toyota tow truck that is being
parted out, so I am thinking "heck if they withstood the stress of
picking up cars, certainly my littel shlempmobile would be a cakewalk.

Suggestions?

Benton