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Re: Purchasing a 1988 Odyssey, No, not this one.

 

--- In toyota-campers@y..., r_hayden@e... wrote:
Hi all. I'm new to Toyota campers (and motorhomes in general; my
camping experience has been limited to backpacking and car camping)
and found this list last week. I've learned a lot already by
skimming the archives. Thanks to all who have shared their
experience and expertise with these rigs with this list, I
appreciate
the information.

We are considering purchasing a 1988 Toyota Odyssey (w/fiberglass
exterior) with 81,000 miles on it. It looks terrific inside and out,
has a new transmission, new tires, new water pump (to sink,etc.,
not
the engine water pump) and a bunch of extra amenities like
microwave,
tv, tv/radio, nice fridge, carpet runners, recently resealed roof,
etc. The owners are a nice older couple (2nd owners) who are
asking
$8500 for it. They put over $2000 into it over the last year, and
the blue book ranges between $6000+ up to around $9000, so it seems
like a fair asking price.

I was wondering what the folks on this list think of the price, and
whether there's any problems with the Odyssey that people have
encountered. Should we put a transmission cooler on it before
setting out on the road? We're going across country this summer and
hope to make it there and back without mechanical problems. It's a
beautiful motorhome (we looked at several and this is the nicest
I've seen for the price) and I'd like to buy it, providing the
mechanic's inspection indicates it's trip-worthy. Any information
or
advice much appreciated.

thanks in advance,

Rosannah

Hi, Roseannah.

Welcome to our list. Here's a few things you might consider
before you buy.

Why did the trans need replacing way before It's time?
Many Toyota truck auto transmissions run in excess of
250k before failure. Was the rig was run hot and heavy.
How big is the rig?

If you read the back posts you will find at least two
list members with failures on rigs they just bought with
so called, new or overhauled auto trans. A failure this
soon is a "Red Flag".

You didn't mention the engine type, But from what we have
learned so far, the 88 up had factory added coolers (that's
in addition to the one built in the radiator). Even more of
reason to believe that the transmissions were abused by the
previous owner. Does this rig have a trailer hitch? Or a
large rack on the back? More trans "Red Flags".

A tip: as you look, forget the cabin for awhile and instead
concentrate on the truck it's self. After all the truck is
what gets you there and back. The cabins are all about the
same.

Jack A2 would never buy any used machine, be it car,
or truck, that had a pre-mature failure of an engine or trans
no matter who did the repairs.

Our list is new, and we have a lot to learn. By next year
at this time, we should be experts on how to buy used
Toyota MHos. For now; Good luck and keep the list posted,
as this is how we all learn.

Jack A2


Re: Purchasing a 1988 Odyssey

Jack Redman
 

Hi Rosannah, Welcome to the group. I say ... Go For It.

Jack R.


From: r_hayden@...
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Purchasing a 1988 Odyssey
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:47:26 -0000

Hi all. I'm new to Toyota campers (and motorhomes in general; my
camping experience has been limited to backpacking and car camping)
and found this list last week. I've learned a lot already by
skimming the archives. Thanks to all who have shared their
experience and expertise with these rigs with this list, I appreciate
the information.

We are considering purchasing a 1988 Toyota Odyssey (w/fiberglass
exterior) with 81,000 miles on it. It looks terrific inside and out,
has a new transmission, new tires, new water pump (to sink,etc., not
the engine water pump) and a bunch of extra amenities like microwave,
tv, tv/radio, nice fridge, carpet runners, recently resealed roof,
etc. The owners are a nice older couple (2nd owners) who are asking
$8500 for it. They put over $2000 into it over the last year, and
the blue book ranges between $6000+ up to around $9000, so it seems
like a fair asking price.

I was wondering what the folks on this list think of the price, and
whether there's any problems with the Odyssey that people have
encountered. Should we put a transmission cooler on it before
setting out on the road? We're going across country this summer and
hope to make it there and back without mechanical problems. It's a
beautiful motorhome (we looked at several and this is the nicest
I've seen for the price) and I'd like to buy it, providing the
mechanic's inspection indicates it's trip-worthy. Any information or
advice much appreciated.

thanks in advance,

Rosannah
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Purchasing a 1988 Odyssey

 

Hi all. I'm new to Toyota campers (and motorhomes in general; my
camping experience has been limited to backpacking and car camping)
and found this list last week. I've learned a lot already by
skimming the archives. Thanks to all who have shared their
experience and expertise with these rigs with this list, I appreciate
the information.

We are considering purchasing a 1988 Toyota Odyssey (w/fiberglass
exterior) with 81,000 miles on it. It looks terrific inside and out,
has a new transmission, new tires, new water pump (to sink,etc., not
the engine water pump) and a bunch of extra amenities like microwave,
tv, tv/radio, nice fridge, carpet runners, recently resealed roof,
etc. The owners are a nice older couple (2nd owners) who are asking
$8500 for it. They put over $2000 into it over the last year, and
the blue book ranges between $6000+ up to around $9000, so it seems
like a fair asking price.

I was wondering what the folks on this list think of the price, and
whether there's any problems with the Odyssey that people have
encountered. Should we put a transmission cooler on it before
setting out on the road? We're going across country this summer and
hope to make it there and back without mechanical problems. It's a
beautiful motorhome (we looked at several and this is the nicest
I've seen for the price) and I'd like to buy it, providing the
mechanic's inspection indicates it's trip-worthy. Any information or
advice much appreciated.

thanks in advance,

Rosannah


Re: Different Sizes Of Marine Batteries???

kathleen hill
 

Owen

On my Dolphin the aux. battery in under the hood. When I replaced mine I
bought the biggest deep cell that I could and still close the hood
safely.

Jim
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1988 Sunrader

 

Michael,
It sounds like you got a pretty nice rig, Congradulations!
Are you like a kid with a new "Toy" again?
Happy Toyota-Camping,
Nate


Old Messages

 

Kev,
To look at older messages, go to the main Toyota Yahoo Groups page and you can click on the previous months posts. The first month of our group was December and we have over a thousand posts. Have fun reading, there is alot of useful info!
Nate


Re: Michael's new Sunrader. ?.

Michael Smith
 

My 1988 Sunrader does have factory installed transmission cooler.

Michael Smith

jacka2@... wrote:

Michael.

Does your new machine come with trans cooler factory installed?

Jack A2

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Re: 81 toyota/micromini MH For sale

Kevin Mara
 

HEllo,
How do I look at old messages?
Kev
--- amrock@... wrote:
Hello everybody,I was browsing through RV trader And
came across
A toyota MH for sale in Troy,Michigan.I looked good
in the photo,
an had the interesting extra set of wheels behind
the rear axel.I
think its called a Tag axel?Nate do you or anyone
else know about
this wheel configuration?Any way the price seems
good @ 2500$.I will
try to get more Info and Telephone # to post later
For anyone Who
might Might be looking for a toyota MH.Happy easter
all! Allen in MI.


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Re: Different Sizes Of Marine Batteries???

 

--- In toyota-campers@y..., owenwinkler99@h... wrote:


Hello Fellow Toyota RVers,

I went to buy an auxillary battery and found several sizes. I do
not
know what size mine has (as it is stored and I wasn't in the
neighborhood at the time) but these are the 4 sizes I found at
Sears:

24ms 400cca 480mca $40
24m 500cca 650mca $67
27m 575cca 750mca $77
29m 725cca 925mca $92

I am unsure of what size to get.....

If I get the biggest battery, will it cause any problems??

Thanks in advance for the help,

Owen
Owen.

The bigger the better. Some on our list have installed two
6 volt golf cart batts in series ($50 each at Sams). This
route is far and away the best, if you can find room to put
them. I will be putting them in my rig this summer.

The new Marine batt specs are for both cranking and running
and IMO the batts are now, not a true deep cycle, but a
compromise. They will run down faster in RV use. A batt
made specifically for electric outboards would be fine if
there is such a thing anymore, but I think the marine batt
mfgs have all gone to this one design fits all concept.

You may have to dig a bit to find a real deep cycle batt.
BTW golf cart batts are true deep cycle.

Jack A2


Re: good deal

 

--- In toyota-campers@y..., tommiez@h... wrote:
this is a ways from here in Southern California to go get it.. but
this sounds like a very good deal..on rv trader .com
Tommie.

It could be a good deal, or a real bad deal
if the axle has not been converted to 1 ton.
The recall is, for the most part over, and
you are lookin at $2k plus a hassle factor
of at least another $1k.

BTW we do have a link to RV Trader right here
on this list, just click on "Bookmarks"

Jack A2


Re: Michael's new Sunrader. ?.

 

--- In toyota-campers@y..., Michael Smith <msmith@s...> wrote:
I was looking at the adds in rvtrader online. There was a 18'
Sunrader that
looked longer than 18'. I called them up and the owner said oh yea
the add
isn't right it's a 21 footer, just what I was looking for to replace
the one
that I got rear ended in. After talking to the elderly owner I could
tell
she was good people and had kept the rig up really well. It was in
Silverton
Oregon about 650 miles from us. I decided that night to just buy it
sight
unseen or at least put $200 and a run to Oregon in that direction.
The last
one I was interested in slipped through my fingers. I sent the
woman's son a
non refundable deposit of $200 by express mail to hold it for me for
one
week. I managed to get some time off work so my better half and I
drove our
Sunrader with the bashed in back up to get it. Some guy was trying
to buy it
for more money by the time I got there but the lady's son was a deal
is a
deal kind of guy so all went well. My new rig is and 88 Sunrader in
showroom
condition. It has 44 thousand miles on it, auto trans., cruise
control, the
really cool Sunrader storage box on the back, air bags, 1 ton rear
axle and
1 ton front set up. It was always stored under cover and looks
pretty much
brand new.

We went to an rv show last weekend all the new small rvs were junk
compared
to Sunraders and many of the other toyota rvs, not even close.


The first thing I'm going to do is change out the trans. fluid and
filter.

Michael Smith
Michael.

Does your new machine come with trans cooler factory installed?

Jack A2


Re: No subject was specified.

Kevin Mara
 

HI,
Just joined the group. My wife wants to try camping
and I want reliable and non tent.
Are there any toyo campers to seek for a small family
for couple time years usage for just a few days, any
to avoid, and anything in particular to look for?
Thansk
kev
--- Michael Smith <msmith@...> wrote:
I was looking at the adds in rvtrader online. There
was a 18' Sunrader that
looked longer than 18'. I called them up and the
owner said oh yea the add
isn't right it's a 21 footer, just what I was
looking for to replace the one
that I got rear ended in. After talking to the
elderly owner I could tell
she was good people and had kept the rig up really
well. It was in Silverton
Oregon about 650 miles from us. I decided that night
to just buy it sight
unseen or at least put $200 and a run to Oregon in
that direction. The last
one I was interested in slipped through my fingers.
I sent the woman's son a
non refundable deposit of $200 by express mail to
hold it for me for one
week. I managed to get some time off work so my
better half and I drove our
Sunrader with the bashed in back up to get it. Some
guy was trying to buy it
for more money by the time I got there but the
lady's son was a deal is a
deal kind of guy so all went well. My new rig is and
88 Sunrader in showroom
condition. It has 44 thousand miles on it, auto
trans., cruise control, the
really cool Sunrader storage box on the back, air
bags, 1 ton rear axle and
1 ton front set up. It was always stored under cover
and looks pretty much
brand new.

We went to an rv show last weekend all the new small
rvs were junk compared
to Sunraders and many of the other toyota rvs, not
even close.


The first thing I'm going to do is change out the
trans. fluid and filter.

Michael Smith

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Kevin

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Re: good deal

Michael Smith
 

It does sound good. That is the basic rig I first bought, but look out for
the bad axle set up. That is definitly a Sunrader axle recall year. If it
got changed out sometime in the past and the rig is clean it's a good deal.
If the axle wasn't replaced it's going to cost you $2000 and a lot of
running around.


Michael Smith

tommiez@... wrote:

this is a ways from here in Southern California to go get it.. but
this sounds like a very good deal..on rv trader .com

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Hudson, FL $4,995.00
1983 TOYOTA, SUNRADER ac, awning, 5 spd., 47k miles, split kitchen,
rear dinette, $4,995 DLR., (727)-863-6218.


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No subject was specified.

Michael Smith
 

?


I was looking at the adds in rvtrader online. There was a 18' Sunrader that looked longer than 18'. I called them up and the owner said oh yea the add isn't right it's a 21 footer, just what I was looking for to replace the one that I got rear ended in. After talking to the elderly owner I could tell she was good people and had kept the rig up really well. It was in Silverton Oregon about 650 miles from us. I decided that night to just buy it sight unseen or at least put $200 and a run to Oregon in that direction. The last one I was interested in slipped through my fingers. I sent the woman's son a non refundable deposit of $200 by express mail to hold it for me for one week. I managed to get some time off work so my better half and I drove our Sunrader with the bashed in back up to get it. Some guy was trying to buy it for more money by the time I got there but the lady's son was a deal is a deal kind of guy so all went well. My new rig is and 88 Sunrader in showroom condition. It has 44 thousand miles on it, auto trans., cruise control, the really cool Sunrader storage box on the back, air bags, 1 ton rear axle and 1 ton front set up. It was always stored under cover and looks pretty much brand new.

We went to an rv show last weekend all the new small rvs were junk compared to Sunraders and many of the other toyota rvs, not even close.
?

The first thing I'm going to do is change out the trans. fluid and filter.

Michael Smith


Re: Rogue motorhome

Michael Smith
 

Tommy,

Yes it was a real recall. Here is the direct text from the National Highway
Transportation Safety Administration website. This is one of the recall
notices for Sunrader. It is my understanding that the below recall notice
was basicly the same for all non full floating axle toyota based rvs with
bolt up dual rear wheels. The part about getting it fixed for free is long
gone unless your rig was made by National RV as in the Dolphin.

Do you have the bad axle?





Year: 1986
Make: GARDNER PACIFIC
Model: SUNRADER
Year of Recall: '91
Type of Report: Vehicle
Potential Number of Units Affected: 906
Summary:
REAR AXLE BEARINGS MAY FAIL DUE TO A BENDING MOMENT CREATED BY THE
AFTERMARKET
DUAL REAR WHEELS FROM A VARIETY OF FACTORS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN OVERLOADED.
FAILURE OF THE BEARINGS CREATE STRESSES ON THE REAR AXLE, RESULTING IN THE
BREAKAGE OF THE AXLE.

A BROKEN AXLE WILL CAUSE SEPARATION OF THE DUAL REARWHEEL ASSEMBLY FROM THE
MOTORHOME, CAUSING LOSS OF CONTROL WHICH COULD RESULT INAN ACCIDENT.

REPLACE REAR AXLE ASSEMBLIES WITH FULL-FLOATING REAR AXLE ASSEMBLIES.

SYSTEM: REAR AXLE; SINGLE AXLE WITH DUAL REAR WHEELS.

VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: MICRO-MINI MOTORHOMES BUILT ON TOYOTA CAMPER
CAB-CHASSISEQUIPPED WITH AFTERMARKET DUAL REAR WHEELS ON A REAR AXLE
DESIGNED
FOR SINGLEWHEELS.

NOTE: REPAIRS WILL BE DONE AT NO COST TO OWNERS OF VEHICLES WHEN THE
FIRSTPURCHASE DATE IS WITHIN EIGHT YEARS OF THE DATE OF NOTIFICATION.
VEHICLES
FIRSTPURCHASED BEYOND THIS PERIOD WILL BE REPAIRED AT REDUCED PRICES. ALSO,
SUNRADERMOTORHOMES MADE BY SUNRADER, INCORPORATED OF ELKHART INDIANA, WHICH
IS
OUT OFBUSINESS, ARE NOT PRODUCTS OF THE GARDNER-PACIFIC CORPORATION AND ARE
NOTINCLUDED IN THIS RECALL.
tommiez@... wrote:

Hi All.. I love reading all the past messages..very informative.. I
recently bought a 1986 Rogue.. It has 46,000 miles..automatic..pretty
clean..has a nice set up with a sofa and a chair..and a rear bath.. I
have read alot here about the rear end problem.. I read all the past
archived messages.. I have one question.. I have read again and again
that it was a recall on the rear end. I called a Toyota dealer (in
Hollywood) and they told me they remembered something about the rear
end problems..but that it was a long time ago. They gave me a number
at Toyota. but the lady wasn't able to give me any information. Do
any of you know if it is truely a recall. And anyone know who or how
to contact Toyota about getting the parts? I had a past older Toyota
camper and it had a paper with it explaining the rear end problem It
said that many of the places went out of business. but that toyota
was making the parts avaliable for those that were out of business.
that the customer would be responsible for the shipping of the
parts. and the installation. I would be happy to pay for the install
if I can get the parts. Do any of you have any answers?
Also. the camper I have is a Rogue. It has an extended rear
bumper with a storage box. I think it is all factory. Do any of yall
know who the maker of this motorhome was. If Rogue is still in
business making any other motorhomes. I would really appreciate any
help anyone can give me. I have been searching the internet.but have
found nothing so far. Thanks..and Happy Easter to all..bye..TOmmy

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good deal

 

this is a ways from here in Southern California to go get it.. but
this sounds like a very good deal..on rv trader .com


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Hudson, FL $4,995.00
1983 TOYOTA, SUNRADER ac, awning, 5 spd., 47k miles, split kitchen,
rear dinette, $4,995 DLR., (727)-863-6218.


Different Sizes Of Marine Batteries???

 

Hello Fellow Toyota RVers,

I went to buy an auxillary battery and found several sizes. I do not
know what size mine has (as it is stored and I wasn't in the
neighborhood at the time) but these are the 4 sizes I found at Sears:

24ms 400cca 480mca $40
24m 500cca 650mca $67
27m 575cca 750mca $77
29m 725cca 925mca $92

I am unsure of what size to get.....

If I get the biggest battery, will it cause any problems??

Thanks in advance for the help,

Owen


Rogue motorhome

 

Hi All.. I love reading all the past messages..very informative.. I
recently bought a 1986 Rogue.. It has 46,000 miles..automatic..pretty
clean..has a nice set up with a sofa and a chair..and a rear bath.. I
have read alot here about the rear end problem.. I read all the past
archived messages.. I have one question.. I have read again and again
that it was a recall on the rear end. I called a Toyota dealer (in
Hollywood) and they told me they remembered something about the rear
end problems..but that it was a long time ago. They gave me a number
at Toyota. but the lady wasn't able to give me any information. Do
any of you know if it is truely a recall. And anyone know who or how
to contact Toyota about getting the parts? I had a past older Toyota
camper and it had a paper with it explaining the rear end problem It
said that many of the places went out of business. but that toyota
was making the parts avaliable for those that were out of business.
that the customer would be responsible for the shipping of the
parts. and the installation. I would be happy to pay for the install
if I can get the parts. Do any of you have any answers?
Also. the camper I have is a Rogue. It has an extended rear
bumper with a storage box. I think it is all factory. Do any of yall
know who the maker of this motorhome was. If Rogue is still in
business making any other motorhomes. I would really appreciate any
help anyone can give me. I have been searching the internet.but have
found nothing so far. Thanks..and Happy Easter to all..bye..TOmmy


Re: Auto Trans Coolers??

Tommy H.
 

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where did you get a cooler for 30 dollars at? I would like to get one that cheap and do it myself too..I did one on another motorhome but remember spending much more for it..thanks..Tommy

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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: [toyota-campers] Auto Trans Coolers??

Did it myself for about $30.00 and 1.5 hrs. Have Fun.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jacka2@... [mailto:jacka2@...]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:58 AM
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Auto Trans Coolers??


What year did Toyota start installing trans
coolers on their 1 tons ?

I'm in the process of geting quotes on a trans
cooler for my 20 ft Sunrader pop-up. Although
my unit is a lot lighter then most and the trans
is in perfect shape, I'm taking no chances.

I'll post prices here as I get them.

Jack A2


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Re: Auto Trans Coolers??

Walker1, Howard
 

Did it myself for about $30.00 and 1.5 hrs. Have Fun.

C. Howard Walker
Phone= 704/549-6568

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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:58 AM
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Auto Trans Coolers??


What year did Toyota start installing trans
coolers on their 1 tons ?

I'm in the process of geting quotes on a trans
cooler for my 20 ft Sunrader pop-up. Although
my unit is a lot lighter then most and the trans
is in perfect shape, I'm taking no chances.

I'll post prices here as I get them.

Jack A2


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