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Joseph, I would suggest you check out the auto trader website. Go
under rv trader. The last time I checked it out there where over 100
toyota campers listed. When you search just type toyota in the keyword
blank. Good Luck, Nate

This past summer was the first for me and my toyota and we traveled
alot. First big trip was to Cooperstown N.Y. in late July for
Baseball Hall of Fame induction weekend. Great trip, stay about 10
miles out of Cooperstown at a KOA. The weekend was great, saw a ton
of hall of fame ball players and the weather was great. Average about
18mpg on the trip which I was very pleased with considering mountains
of upstate N.Y.

Took the big trip in mid August from Ohio through the upper penn. of
Michigan and across to Teddy Roosevelt N.P. in North Dakota. From
there we traveled across Montana through Butte and Missoula, a little
smokey though! Continued traveling west until we reached Seattle,
we camped on the west side of Pugent Sound and took ferry across, Mt.
Rainer was awesome. Headed south from there through Olympia N.P. and
down Wash. and Oregan coast, first time I saw the pacific ocean. Dad
and I took a quick and very chilly dip, temp in low 60's and us in
street cloths. I had to be able to say I swam in the Pac. ocean.
From there we started back east through Portland and followed the
Columbia River with Mt. Hood in the distance. Next big stop was
Yellowstone N.P. which was great as always. Camped in the Black Hills
of South Dakota saw Mt. Rushmore, Crazy Horse, and Custer S.P., third
trip to this part of the country still one of my favorites. I think
it would be second on my list of great places right behind Northwest
Montana. From black hills traveled through badlands and Wall Drug.
Last stop was the Field of Dreams in Iowa location of the movie. It
was a great trip we covered over 6,000 miles. Only mechanical problem
was had inside dually seperate didn't blow put shook me to death for a
few hundred miles. Also lost passenger side vent window, stone I
think. Drove in the worst storm of my life outside of Yankton S.D.
got pretty wet driving from having a small window out and winds around
50 mph blowing. My mileage averaged around 19mpg. Funniest thing I
saw was somebody pulling a camper down interstate with the sewer hoses
flapping in the breeze. Nate

Hello group! I just want to encourage anybody who has taken a trip
recently in their beloved toyota to share it with the group. The
report could cover where, when, recomended campgrounds or areas to
see, mileage, and any other thing you might think the group might find
interesting. I know it is the middle of winter so feel free to share
stories of this past summers travels. I think the group could use
some good day dreaming material. Thanks, Nate

I think you could easily pull a toyota chinook behind you. I have
seen regular toyota trucks being pulled behind class A's. The chinook
models would not come close to 5,000 pounds and the are sticks so you
could just put it into nuetral. I hav never seen a big motorhome
towing a mini before. You must be a serious camper! Nate

Looking for a good used Toyota Sunrader camper. Please reply with
specifications, price, jpeg, etc. to

JoeBesse@...
3389 Tanner Road
Scott, LA 70583
ph 337-873-8758

Hi C. J.,

Well, I looked at the Itasca and it is not very good. It has several areas of damage, and the interior looks rather used. You can do a lot better.

Jack


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I am not aware of any toyota mini camper vans. Was the one you saw
based on the van with the snub front and the driver sits on top the
engine compartment? I think they first came out in the mid-80's.
Good Luck in your search! Nate

Thanks for your reply Nate. Yes, it was a van with the snub front
end (not a Previa). It was a well done conversion I saw, but don't
know if it was a limited production factory camper, or an aftermarket
job. Perhaps it was a one-off special. Will keep looking, or perhaps
one of the other group members might have a reference. Does anyone
have any insight as to whether some of the older toyota campers such
as a Chinook, or Sunrader might lend itself toward being towed behind
a Class A motorhome? Usually there is a 5,000 weight limit - but
don't think that would come into play.

Roger Freedman
rnfreedman@...
Austin, Texas

edfam writes,

Yes it has 8 tires....my husband says they're: 2 on the front
axel,4 on the drive axel and 2 on the tag axel,

Ah, one of those rigs with the *tag* set added...not too
many of those around. Thanx for clarifying that ...

Paul/Calif

The watt ratings for the Coleman 6757 and 6759 with Elect-A-Heat option are as
follows

6757 Standard Condition = 1420 Watts
6757 Maximum Condition = 1600 Watts

6759 Standard Condition = 1600 Watts
6759 Maximum Condtion = 1930 Watts

Heating on Both units is 1800 Watts

Hope this Helps,

Michael Smith



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--- In toyota-campers@..., "Walker1, Howard"
<howard.walker1@h...> wrote:

Thanks for the info. I am also interested to know the watts draw, I

wand to

buy a generator and need to know what size [ Its a small camper.
Thanks !!
Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mach 3 PS
Cooling Power: 13,500 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/10.2

Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mach 3 Plus
Cooling Power: 13,500 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/14.9

Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mini-Mach
Cooling Power: 7,100 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/8.2

To get the watts, multiply the volts x the amps. Thus for the Mach3
PS which draws 10.2 Amps at 115 volts you get 1173 Watts. For the
Mach 3 Plus the draw would be 1713 etc.

Note, however, that when the compressor kicks on and off, there will
be a surge in the amount of power being drawn. I don't know that I
would feel comfortable running an air conditioner on a generator
under 2500 Watts and if you could get 3000 or 3500 in place, you
would probably blow fewer fuses. Remember that your generator is
running not just the air conditioner but also any appliances (trickle
charger for the house battery, lights, hair dryers, electric coffee
pot, microwave oven, toaster etc.) that may be on at the same time.
An undersized generator can cause a lot of irritation as you go off
to reset the circuit breakers one more time.

Regards,

Bob Hupp the Toyotaless
and yes, I have had RVs before.

I am not aware of any toyota mini camper vans. Was the one you saw
based on the van with the snub front and the driver sits on top the
engine compartment? I think they first came out in the mid-80's.
Good Luck in your search! Nate

Sorry Bob all I can tell you is that I have a coleman model AC and it
can play freeze-out with you, plenty of cooling power. I do not have
a generator so the only time I can use it is when I hit a campgrond
with electric. I tend to run it when I don't need to sometimes to get
my money's worth out of some campsites, usually private ones that seem
a too high priced. Good Luck, Nate

Thanks for the info. I am also interested to know the watts draw, I wand to
buy a generator and need to know what size [ Its a small camper.
Thanks !!

C. Howard Walker
Phone= 704/549-6568

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Subject: [toyota-campers] Air Conditioner Ratings


There may be other manufacturers out there, but the two companies
making RV air conditioners that I have run into are Coleman and Duo-
Therm. Here are the power consumption ratings for the current models
from Coleman.

Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mach 3 PS
Cooling Power: 13,500 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/10.2

Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mach 3 Plus
Cooling Power: 13,500 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/14.9

Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mini-Mach
Cooling Power: 7,100 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/8.2

Duotherm, built by Dometic, doesn't publish the power consumption
ratings for their units. Their cooling power is 7,100, 11,000,
13,500 and 15,000 BTU depending on the model. Look at
for their info.

Regards,

Bob Hupp the Toyotaless



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Hi Jack,

Funny, but the Itasca is located IN Huntington Beach!
Here's the phone number if you'd like to give the guy
a call and find out what you can...if he hasn't sold
it yet. (714)960-1178

I don't know why, there just seems to be something
strange about this guy or the vehicle. It's like he's
trying TOO hard to sell it. He's replaced the back
bumper and the front hood and had some painting done
on the front where he replaced the hood. He said he
bought it with alot of miles on it because he wanted
to buy it cheaply so that he could then fix it up the
way he wanted. He dropped alot of numbers to how much
everything cost. I'm just not sure. I kinda wanted
something under $5000 that was dependable. His asking
price is $9500 but willing to take $9000.

Again, I'm not sure, and maybe it's just my woman's
intuition but there's an alarm going off. I would
really appreciate it if you had the time to go take a
looksie.

Thanks,
CJ

--- Jack Redman <jack_redman@...> wrote:

Hi CJ, That price is not all that unreasonable,
especially for the 6 cyl
engine. Where is the unit located. I live in
Huntington Beach and would be
glad to look at it for you if it is in my area.

Jack

From: "CJ " <seige7@...>
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Good price for a 91

Itasca???

Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 06:03:59 -0000

Hi again everyone,

There's a '91 Itasca on a 2 ton Toyota chasis, 6

cyl rebuilt engine

with generator and the airbaged rear axle for sale

here in Cali for

$9000. The guy says there's 24K on the rebuilt

motor and that he's

had all sorts of stuff done to the RV like new

upholstery, a

generator with 100 hours on it, a fantastic fan for

the bathroom with

a rain sensor in it.

Anyway, it's an 8 hour drive down for me to look at

it and I wanted to

ask you all if it's worth my time. I haven't

really found any place

online where I can get the blue book prices on

these RV's. It's about

$4000 more than I wanted to pay but he's done all

the work to it.

Can you guys tell me what you think? What should I

look out for?

He's recently divorced and is selling it because he

has no place to

store it. He also said the Winnabego dealer said

it was worth $10,000

without the generator.

Thanks,
CJ

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Thanks to all for the encouragement, I was a bummed at first after
learning of the axle problems but today is a new day and I'm working
happily on a fix. I learned a few things from the people who took over
the building where many of the Sunrader units were made. They do RV
repairs but don't have an available fix for the axle problems
themselves. The guy I spoke with said there was a rear end shop in
Southern California who was converting the non floating axle to a
floating axle. I'm trying to track them down. He also told me that some
of the coach makers had recommended running the inside tires with 5 to 7
more lbs of air than the outer tires. This so the inner tires would be
carrying the greatest share of the load.

PLEASE TAKE THE TIRE PRESSURE ADVICE AS HEARD IF FROM A GUY WHO HEARD IT
FROM A GUY WHO DOES RV REPAIR.

I have no idea if this is a good idea or not.

I called a few auto wreckers.....woops.....the prefer to be called
dismantles now. I found one who had the axles and hubs but no pumpkin. I
guess he was talking about the differential itself. Does anyone know if
the axles would possible go onto my differential? They were only $200
for axles and hubs.

Best for Now,

Michael Smith




Benton wrote:

There may be other manufacturers out there, but the two companies
making RV air conditioners that I have run into are Coleman and Duo-
Therm. Here are the power consumption ratings for the current models
from Coleman.

Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mach 3 PS
Cooling Power: 13,500 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/10.2

Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mach 3 Plus
Cooling Power: 13,500 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/14.9

Manufacturer: Coleman
Model: Mini-Mach
Cooling Power: 7,100 BTU
Volts/Amps: 115/8.2

Duotherm, built by Dometic, doesn't publish the power consumption
ratings for their units. Their cooling power is 7,100, 11,000,
13,500 and 15,000 BTU depending on the model. Look at
for their info.

Regards,

Bob Hupp the Toyotaless

Hello Howard,
I got the Owner's Manual out of the glove box, but it is so generic
that it doesn't have much of anything..only 10 small pages with no
specifics for anything. It does have a phone number on the back for
manufacturer's warranty work, so if your unit is a "Duo-Therm" it
lists 213-962-3768, perhaps you could try that number and ask them
directly.Hope that helps. edfam
--- In toyota-campers@..., "Walker1, Howard"
<howard.walker1@h...> wrote:

I just read yopur e-mail and found that we have similar campers. .

Mine is

an 84 Dolphin every thing works but I have no manuals for the box.

{ If you

have I would love to get a copy } The engine is probably a 22r [

very

reliable ] Mine has 87 thousand and jhust purrs.
One thing I am interested in is what id the watts and amps of the

roof Air

conditioner in my 20 foot box.
Have a good day and keep in touch.

C. Howard Walker
Phone= 704/549-6568

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From: edfam [mailto:edfam98@p...]
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 10:28 PM
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Hello Group!


We just found your group while at the Good Sam Site surfing around.
Glad someone thought of this. My family and I live in California and
have just recently aquired an '80 Toyota Dolphin. I say aquired
because it actually belongs to my uncle. Two years ago his tail pipe
sort of rusted off without his knowledge (or permission, I'm sure)
started a wee fire at the back end of the mini. Melted the holding
tank,left turn signal/brake light unit and back exterior wall and

left

the license plate bare of paint and tags. It has since been parked

at

the rear of his house, being used as a storage shed of sorts.
When we decided to go on a winter camping trip to see the Monarch
Butterflies (At Santa Cruz Ca.) I could NOT face another round of

the

"tent from hell" OR sleeping on the ground. I decided to go to my
Uncle and bring the old mini back to life. A real quick patch
job,(Thankfully he had got a non-op from DMV)a quick smog (passed

with

flying colors after just an ordinary tune-up)spray painted the burnt
license plate, paid DMV for tags and we were on our way!
We were amazed at the smooth ride, got 16 miles to the gallon, and

it

ran like a top. The only bad thing is...I'm afraid that my Uncle

isn't

going to get his Mini back anytime soon. Last week we took a quick
ride, and are planning our May vacation, to slowly amble north up

the

coast and into Oregon and Washington. So I'm afraid it's a case of,

I

fixed it- I get to keep it.He's such a good guy, I might let him
borrow it occasionally ;.)

I have no idea what engine it has (other than a 4 speed) or any of

the

other things you guys have been posting about...I DO know that it

has

8 tires that I should think about replacing soon, and we'll

definately

need to find a new holding tank ( those late night treks to the
campground potty with a five year old grandson have got to stop!)
but, even with all the work still to do...we love the little Dolphin
and couldn't be happier...unless that is, if we had more time and

$$$

to use it alot more often.
We have friends here in our town in the Motorhome Repair business

and

we'll be sure to put up a notice about this group! Happy Camping in
2001!


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Hello Paul,
Yes it has 8 tires....my husband says they're: 2 on the front
axel,4 on the drive axel and 2 on the tag axel, making 8
total...now, I personally couldn't have told you what, what was
called, but thats what he said. edfam
--- In toyota-campers@..., Fundncr007@a... wrote:

adfam98@p... writes:

.I DO know that it has
8 tires that I should think about replacing soon, and we'll

definately

need to find a new holding tank ( those late night treks to the

8 tires you say???

Paul/Calif

I have a 84 - 22r with 87,000 and it Purrs!!!!!!

C. Howard Walker
Phone= 704/549-6568

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To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Re: Sunraider and other fiberglass shelled
rv's


Hi - Thanks much for a very informative discussion group!

I recently sold my old 20' dodge 360 gas guzzler (8.5 mpg
average on trip) and have been looking for a 1988 and newer fuel
efficient rv with a manual tranny. My Class C Dodge Komfort also
developed an unstoppable roof leak after loading 2 kayaks up there
for a little boating fun in Muleghe - Baha Mex.

I have a friend who wants to sell his '84 toyota "New World". I
believe it has a fiberglass body with excellent interior height but
with his auto tranny he is only averaging 12 mpg which is quite a bit
less then the 15 to 18 average I read about here.

If anyone has any leads on a unit that is is good condition, I am
most interested. I am looking only for the units with the heavier
rear axial. The few toyotas I saw under $6000 were older units with
the "guaranteed to fail when least expected" wimpy rear
bearings/axial.
Another friend loves his 1988 Dolphin with a 4 banger 22R engine and
manual however I wonder how durable that body is compared to the
fiberglass ones? Has anyone had problems with roof
leakage or structural integrity?

My first rv was a '74 fiberglass body dodge class B Xplorer 224
(factory van conversion) with a 360 engine. It averaged about 13 mpg
on a trip. That unit was built like a tank, never leaked and it could
easily cruise up mountains at 60 mph. I'll have some "adjustments"
to make in my driving with a 4 banger but the gas prices
are "encouraging" me and many other folks to downsize into more fuel
efficient units.

Finally (sorry to be so long winded) is there much performance
improvement in toyota's 6 cyl engine compared to the 22R 4 cyl ?
What about fuel efficiency? I've heard some rumors that the 6's are
not as reliable and had to be recalled. Your comments are most
appreciated!

Happy Rv'ing,

allan


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