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Hi All,

I'm new to the group. I recently purchased a 84 Sunrader. It only had
40 thousand miles on it and was super clean. I must say I'm a little
bumed after reading about the axle problems. I went out and counted my
inner lugs.......5. I feel sort of like Nevil in Omega Man with
Charlton Heston " five are you sure five....five brother five".

My wife and I were planning to drive down the Baha. Now I'm not so sure
that is a good idea. Will the bearings just go out or is the axle
likely to break off with very dangerous results?

Michael Smith

Tucker, Welcome to the group! Thanks for your pitty regarding the weather. I own a 1986 escaper, with a 5 speed, with about 83,000 miles and in great shape. I get between 17-20mpg. I bought it last May and have put about 10,000 miles on it this year. About 6,000 of the miles was on vacation out west to Seattle area. What part of California are you from? Later, nate

hello nate,
sorry to hear that you have to count the days until
the ground thaws.I live in california so Iam counting
until the weekend and that's tooooo long to wait!my
name is tucker and I recently purchased a 87 dolphin.
my partner and I love our dolphin.we looked for about
a year (well worth the wait)automatic,4 banger, 40,000
miles, brand new inside no wear to speak of, all the
manuals, almost to good to be true. paid $8,000.the
gas mileage varies not as good as I had expected. I'm
getting 12-14 in town.happy to have found toyota
lovers. anyone in california? happy trails, tucker
--- theeagle@... wrote:

Took my camper for a little drive today and it got
me thinking or "dreaming" of summer. It aslo didn't
help that I saw roughly 10 motorhomes heading
southbound on I75 yesterday. I'm here in Ohio
counting the days until the ground thaws and the
school year ends so I can hit the open road.
Planning several trips this summer including going
out west again. I think this year we are planning
to hit northern California and Oregan. I was
wondering if anyone else has been dreaming summer
and the open road? Nate

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I saw an ad in the Recycler (Recycler.com) for a '86 Toyota 1 ton
dually with front end damage for $800. The phone number is 909 7676
0220. There are also 9 ads for Toyota motorhomes.

Jack

Well group we are up to 30 members in just a couple of weeks. I want to thank all of you for helping to spread the word about our group. I have enjoyed reading every post and getting to know everybody. It is great to know that there are so many toyota camper fans out there. Before I started the group, I couldn't find much info on our rigs. In the last few weeks, I have learned many things about our campers. If you are a member who hasn't made a post, I encourage you to introduce yourself and your camper to the group. To the rest of the members keep the posts coming, anything that you think the group might find interesting about our toyota's or traveling in general post them. Thanks, Nate

Took my camper for a little drive today and it got me thinking or "dreaming" of summer. It aslo didn't help that I saw roughly 10 motorhomes heading southbound on I75 yesterday. I'm here in Ohio counting the days until the ground thaws and the school year ends so I can hit the open road. Planning several trips this summer including going out west again. I think this year we are planning to hit northern California and Oregan. I was wondering if anyone else has been dreaming summer and the open road? Nate

Hi CJ, That price is not all that unreasonable, especially for the 6 cyl engine. Where is the unit located. I live in Huntington Beach and would be glad to look at it for you if it is in my area.

Jack

From: "CJ " <seige7@...>
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Good price for a 91 Itasca???
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 06:03:59 -0000

Hi again everyone,

There's a '91 Itasca on a 2 ton Toyota chasis, 6 cyl rebuilt engine
with generator and the airbaged rear axle for sale here in Cali for
$9000. The guy says there's 24K on the rebuilt motor and that he's
had all sorts of stuff done to the RV like new upholstery, a
generator with 100 hours on it, a fantastic fan for the bathroom with
a rain sensor in it.

Anyway, it's an 8 hour drive down for me to look at it and I wanted to
ask you all if it's worth my time. I haven't really found any place
online where I can get the blue book prices on these RV's. It's about
$4000 more than I wanted to pay but he's done all the work to it.

Can you guys tell me what you think? What should I look out for?
He's recently divorced and is selling it because he has no place to
store it. He also said the Winnabego dealer said it was worth $10,000
without the generator.

Thanks,
CJ

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9,000 for a 1991 sounds very reasonable. But I would check-out the engine as best you can. Having the engine rebuilt could be a good thing if it was done by someone reputable, or it could be a bad thing if someone did know what they were doing. The value of the camper also depends alot on the condition of the unit. However, that is a very reasonable price for a 1991. I would also suggest you check out the auto trader site, look under rv's. You also might be able get the seller to drop his price a little. Good Luck, Nate

Well Dern it.
I was startin to think I had hit the jackpot. I just don't know what
to do. I have found a 295/50 4 ply tire. I guess at this point that
is my only option. I can not seem to locate a 1 ton axle to save my
life. I know there has to be one here in Arkansas ,somewhere laying
around, just waiting to be snached.

Benton






--- In toyota-campers@..., "george oviatt"
<george_oviatt@h...> wrote:

Benton, you can also go to toyota.com and contact customer service,

give

them the vin number and they can give you the specs on the truck

From: "Nolan " <rockhound@n...>
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] 1 ton axle identify
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 22:29:49 -0000

Hey Benton, the easiest way to tell the true 1 ton floater axle is

by

the large center hub and they have a large 6 bolt lugnut pattern

as

opposed to the small 5 lug pattern on the stock truck. The
motorhomes converted under the recall have the stock 5 lug wheel in
front and the 6 lug hole in rear. A true 1 ton chassis has the

large

6 lug in front and rear and use the same wheels front and back.

Hope

this helps some.

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Jack, according to my sources Ryder uses everything and if one is wrecked,for instance, it is stripped and or shipped to their central HQ, esp. the axels.

They still rent Toyotas, at least here in Arkansas/Missouri. U-haul is another one we see a lot of.

I see a lot of discussion about finding toyotas and prices. The midwest is a good source. I bought my 85 two years ago for $8,000. It had 40K miles and a one owner. Four cyl/4 spd, air, heat, etc.

For spring checking and other times good deals show up in :

bignickle.com a Missouri/Ar/Ok local

thriftynickle.com has a national coverage (you select your area)

ardemgaz.com/class/ the Little Rock paper (search for toyota under recreation)

Anyway just a few good sources, usually low miles, no salt or uv rot, etc.

George

From: jacka2@...
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Re: Ryder rent-a-Toy
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:24:21 -0000

--- In toyota-campers@..., jacka2@e... wrote:

Someone,on another list,was talking about the Toyota
truck they had rented from Ryder, back in the eightys.
I too rented one of these. It was a Toyota 4cyl with
dual wheels. That's all I remember. At the time, I
was really surprised at what it would haul,and how
well it drove.

So, the questions are; what happened to all those
Trucks? Are some of them still setting around in behind
Rental outlets? What do these rental chains do with old
trucks? Can we find these hidden grave yards, and, are
they, treasure troves of old 1 ton axles and such?

Anyone know the answers?


I have two more subjects to discuss, but I will post
them separate to help maintain our Archive.

Dave and George.

Thanks for the replys.

So, if they striped them for spares, did they keep the
axles?

Are there still Toyotas being rented? I would doubt it.

where are those axles? The bone yards are too smart not
to have saved them.

Jack A2

Jack A2

Jack A2

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--- In toyota-campers@..., jacka2@e... wrote:

Someone,on another list,was talking about the Toyota
truck they had rented from Ryder, back in the eightys.
I too rented one of these. It was a Toyota 4cyl with
dual wheels. That's all I remember. At the time, I
was really surprised at what it would haul,and how
well it drove.

So, the questions are; what happened to all those
Trucks? Are some of them still setting around in behind
Rental outlets? What do these rental chains do with old
trucks? Can we find these hidden grave yards, and, are
they, treasure troves of old 1 ton axles and such?

Anyone know the answers?


I have two more subjects to discuss, but I will post
them separate to help maintain our Archive.

Dave and George.

Thanks for the replys.

So, if they striped them for spares, did they keep the
axles?

Are there still Toyotas being rented? I would doubt it.

where are those axles? The bone yards are too smart not
to have saved them.

Jack A2

Jack A2

Jack A2

--- In toyota-campers@..., "CJ " <seige7@y...> wrote:

Hi again everyone,

There's a '91 Itasca on a 2 ton Toyota chasis, 6 cyl rebuilt engine
with generator and the airbaged rear axle for sale here in Cali for
$9000. The guy says there's 24K on the rebuilt motor and that he's
had all sorts of stuff done to the RV like new upholstery, a
generator with 100 hours on it, a fantastic fan for the bathroom

with

a rain sensor in it.

Anyway, it's an 8 hour drive down for me to look at it and I wanted

to

ask you all if it's worth my time. I haven't really found any place
online where I can get the blue book prices on these RV's. It's

about

$4000 more than I wanted to pay but he's done all the work to it.

Can you guys tell me what you think? What should I look out for?
He's recently divorced and is selling it because he has no place to
store it. He also said the Winnabego dealer said it was worth

$10,000

without the generator.

Thanks,
CJ

CJ

The first place you want to look is RV Trader online.
I don't have the address, but It's in the Archives of
this list. I looked last week and they had 104 (yes 104)
Toyota based motor homes for sale.

That 9k price sounds about right for a 91. But IMHO a
"rebuilt" engine is always suspect unless it's from
the factory (in this case Toyota) or a top name re-
builder.

I haven't heard of a 2 ton Toyota truck??


Good luck and welcome to the list.

Jack A2

Hi again everyone,

There's a '91 Itasca on a 2 ton Toyota chasis, 6 cyl rebuilt engine
with generator and the airbaged rear axle for sale here in Cali for
$9000. The guy says there's 24K on the rebuilt motor and that he's
had all sorts of stuff done to the RV like new upholstery, a
generator with 100 hours on it, a fantastic fan for the bathroom with
a rain sensor in it.

Anyway, it's an 8 hour drive down for me to look at it and I wanted to
ask you all if it's worth my time. I haven't really found any place
online where I can get the blue book prices on these RV's. It's about
$4000 more than I wanted to pay but he's done all the work to it.

Can you guys tell me what you think? What should I look out for?
He's recently divorced and is selling it because he has no place to
store it. He also said the Winnabego dealer said it was worth $10,000
without the generator.

Thanks,
CJ

You are the right track looking for Toyota campers. If you want a V6 you have to get an 1989 or newer. However, I have never seen a 5 speed with a V6, that would be a great combination though. The power of a V6 with better mileage. I have a 1986 4 cylinder with a 5 speed. The mileage is great 17-20mpg, but I wouldn't mind the extra power. As far as the maker of the box, there are several different styles and makes. I would you suggest that you find the box that best fits your needs. Where all are you planning to travel next summer? I have traveled accross the US and loved every minute of it. Best of luck with your search! The search for the perfect the camper can be pretty fun. Let us know if you have any more questions.
Nate

Hi everyone,

I've already e-mailed a couple of you in this great group. I'm
looking to buy a Toyota based RV. I plan to travel across the states
later this year and want an RV that gets good gas mileage and is VERY
dependable. I'll be travelling alone (I'm a woman) with my
two doggies. Although I'm mechanically inclined I don't want to have
to rebuild something or have to pay big $$$ to get things fixed along
the way in my travels.

Anyway, I was hoping this group could suggest the best Toyota RV's for
me to look at. I want the good gas mileage and some power incase I
want to tow a motorcycle. At the moment, I'm thinking of a 6 cyl, one
ton chasis, with a 5 speed. Do any of you have the years and models
that might fit these criteria? I also don't know if I should go for
an older model because I've heard of problems with the eletrical on
RV's before 1980.

Do you have any other suggestions as for options I might want to have
on the RV?

Any help that you'd be able to give me would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
CJ

Benton, you can also go to toyota.com and contact customer service, give them the vin number and they can give you the specs on the truck

From: "Nolan " <rockhound@...>
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] 1 ton axle identify
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 22:29:49 -0000

Hey Benton, the easiest way to tell the true 1 ton floater axle is by
the large center hub and they have a large 6 bolt lugnut pattern as
opposed to the small 5 lug pattern on the stock truck. The
motorhomes converted under the recall have the stock 5 lug wheel in
front and the 6 lug hole in rear. A true 1 ton chassis has the large
6 lug in front and rear and use the same wheels front and back. Hope
this helps some.

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Yes, I to thought this was apossible source of axels but after checking with a ryder dealer I was told that when they "get rid" of a truck they salvage the trucks for parts to keep their other toyota rentals going.

From: jacka2@...
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Ryder rent-a-Toy
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:13:00 -0000

Someone,on another list,was talking about the Toyota
truck they had rented from Ryder, back in the eightys.
I too rented one of these. It was a Toyota 4cyl with
dual wheels. That's all I remember. At the time, I
was really surprised at what it would haul,and how
well it drove.

So, the questions are; what happened to all those
Trucks? Are some of them still setting around in behind
Rental outlets? What do these rental chains do with old
trucks? Can we find these hidden grave yards, and, are
they, treasure troves of old 1 ton axles and such?

Anyone know the answers?


I have two more subjects to discuss, but I will post
them separate to help maintain our Archive.

Jack A2

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Best of luck with your sensor. Wear several layers of clothing and take plenty of breaks. Ha Ha! I shouldn't make fun you said your going to Florida in Feb. perfect time to head south and away from the snow. Nate

My 1986 has had the rear end changed from the 3/4 to 1 ton. This was done before I purchased it. Thanks for the info on the wheels. I have 5 lugs on the front and 6 on the back. My camper was made by Damon and is called an Escaper, I don't know if they paid for it or not. I am just glad not to have to worry about it. Nate