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--- In toyota-campers@..., "CJ " <seige7@y...> wrote:

Hi again everyone,

There's a '91 Itasca on a 2 ton Toyota chasis, 6 cyl rebuilt engine
with generator and the airbaged rear axle for sale here in Cali for
$9000. The guy says there's 24K on the rebuilt motor and that he's
had all sorts of stuff done to the RV like new upholstery, a
generator with 100 hours on it, a fantastic fan for the bathroom

with

a rain sensor in it.

Anyway, it's an 8 hour drive down for me to look at it and I wanted

to

ask you all if it's worth my time. I haven't really found any place
online where I can get the blue book prices on these RV's. It's

about

$4000 more than I wanted to pay but he's done all the work to it.

Can you guys tell me what you think? What should I look out for?
He's recently divorced and is selling it because he has no place to
store it. He also said the Winnabego dealer said it was worth

$10,000

without the generator.

Thanks,
CJ

CJ

The first place you want to look is RV Trader online.
I don't have the address, but It's in the Archives of
this list. I looked last week and they had 104 (yes 104)
Toyota based motor homes for sale.

That 9k price sounds about right for a 91. But IMHO a
"rebuilt" engine is always suspect unless it's from
the factory (in this case Toyota) or a top name re-
builder.

I haven't heard of a 2 ton Toyota truck??


Good luck and welcome to the list.

Jack A2

Hi again everyone,

There's a '91 Itasca on a 2 ton Toyota chasis, 6 cyl rebuilt engine
with generator and the airbaged rear axle for sale here in Cali for
$9000. The guy says there's 24K on the rebuilt motor and that he's
had all sorts of stuff done to the RV like new upholstery, a
generator with 100 hours on it, a fantastic fan for the bathroom with
a rain sensor in it.

Anyway, it's an 8 hour drive down for me to look at it and I wanted to
ask you all if it's worth my time. I haven't really found any place
online where I can get the blue book prices on these RV's. It's about
$4000 more than I wanted to pay but he's done all the work to it.

Can you guys tell me what you think? What should I look out for?
He's recently divorced and is selling it because he has no place to
store it. He also said the Winnabego dealer said it was worth $10,000
without the generator.

Thanks,
CJ

You are the right track looking for Toyota campers. If you want a V6 you have to get an 1989 or newer. However, I have never seen a 5 speed with a V6, that would be a great combination though. The power of a V6 with better mileage. I have a 1986 4 cylinder with a 5 speed. The mileage is great 17-20mpg, but I wouldn't mind the extra power. As far as the maker of the box, there are several different styles and makes. I would you suggest that you find the box that best fits your needs. Where all are you planning to travel next summer? I have traveled accross the US and loved every minute of it. Best of luck with your search! The search for the perfect the camper can be pretty fun. Let us know if you have any more questions.
Nate

Hi everyone,

I've already e-mailed a couple of you in this great group. I'm
looking to buy a Toyota based RV. I plan to travel across the states
later this year and want an RV that gets good gas mileage and is VERY
dependable. I'll be travelling alone (I'm a woman) with my
two doggies. Although I'm mechanically inclined I don't want to have
to rebuild something or have to pay big $$$ to get things fixed along
the way in my travels.

Anyway, I was hoping this group could suggest the best Toyota RV's for
me to look at. I want the good gas mileage and some power incase I
want to tow a motorcycle. At the moment, I'm thinking of a 6 cyl, one
ton chasis, with a 5 speed. Do any of you have the years and models
that might fit these criteria? I also don't know if I should go for
an older model because I've heard of problems with the eletrical on
RV's before 1980.

Do you have any other suggestions as for options I might want to have
on the RV?

Any help that you'd be able to give me would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
CJ

Benton, you can also go to toyota.com and contact customer service, give them the vin number and they can give you the specs on the truck

From: "Nolan " <rockhound@...>
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] 1 ton axle identify
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 22:29:49 -0000

Hey Benton, the easiest way to tell the true 1 ton floater axle is by
the large center hub and they have a large 6 bolt lugnut pattern as
opposed to the small 5 lug pattern on the stock truck. The
motorhomes converted under the recall have the stock 5 lug wheel in
front and the 6 lug hole in rear. A true 1 ton chassis has the large
6 lug in front and rear and use the same wheels front and back. Hope
this helps some.

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Yes, I to thought this was apossible source of axels but after checking with a ryder dealer I was told that when they "get rid" of a truck they salvage the trucks for parts to keep their other toyota rentals going.

From: jacka2@...
Reply-To: toyota-campers@...
To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] Ryder rent-a-Toy
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:13:00 -0000

Someone,on another list,was talking about the Toyota
truck they had rented from Ryder, back in the eightys.
I too rented one of these. It was a Toyota 4cyl with
dual wheels. That's all I remember. At the time, I
was really surprised at what it would haul,and how
well it drove.

So, the questions are; what happened to all those
Trucks? Are some of them still setting around in behind
Rental outlets? What do these rental chains do with old
trucks? Can we find these hidden grave yards, and, are
they, treasure troves of old 1 ton axles and such?

Anyone know the answers?


I have two more subjects to discuss, but I will post
them separate to help maintain our Archive.

Jack A2

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Best of luck with your sensor. Wear several layers of clothing and take plenty of breaks. Ha Ha! I shouldn't make fun you said your going to Florida in Feb. perfect time to head south and away from the snow. Nate

My 1986 has had the rear end changed from the 3/4 to 1 ton. This was done before I purchased it. Thanks for the info on the wheels. I have 5 lugs on the front and 6 on the back. My camper was made by Damon and is called an Escaper, I don't know if they paid for it or not. I am just glad not to have to worry about it. Nate

--- In toyota-campers@..., "Nolan " <rockhound@n...> wrote:

No real quick fixes that I know of, you might luck out if yours is
mounted in the exhaust manifold just before it goes into the head
pipe, if so you can reach it from under the hood pretty easy, 2

bolts

and unplug it is all there is to it. If its underneath in the pipe I
would wait till the snow melts too :) Soak the bolts good with some
penetrating oil so they won't snap off on you, they get brittle from
the heat. You could take the bulb out of the light, HA HA

Nolan.

Ok on the bulb out. I guess a peice tape is good too.

I appear to be using more fuel so it must be reading low
or open (running rich). One thing I will do, is bang
around it with a hammer in hopes of dislodging a piece
of crud or maybe just to make me feel better.

I have to go down to Orlando in Feb and hate to burn
the extra gas. I'll check my millage and if it's too
bad I'll do a "field fix" before I drive back.

I could also clip the wire and feed the computer
a nice clean 1/2 volt and lean her right out. :)

Thanks for the reply.

Jack A2

--- In toyota-campers@..., "Nolan " <rockhound@n...> wrote:

Hey Benton, the easiest way to tell the true 1 ton floater axle is

by

the large center hub and they have a large 6 bolt lugnut pattern as
opposed to the small 5 lug pattern on the stock truck. The
motorhomes converted under the recall have the stock 5 lug wheel in
front and the 6 lug hole in rear. A true 1 ton chassis has the large
6 lug in front and rear and use the same wheels front and back. Hope
this helps some.

Nolan.

Great info in your post. I went right out and counted
lug nuts. 6 nuts in rear. 5 nuts in front. Mine is a
conversion.

The PO didn't mention it, so my guess is, it was done
at Sunrader before they sold it. Date of Sunrader
Mfg: 8-86. Date of Toyota Mfg. 4-86.

More great stuff for the Archive.

Jack A2

No real quick fixes that I know of, you might luck out if yours is
mounted in the exhaust manifold just before it goes into the head
pipe, if so you can reach it from under the hood pretty easy, 2 bolts
and unplug it is all there is to it. If its underneath in the pipe I
would wait till the snow melts too :) Soak the bolts good with some
penetrating oil so they won't snap off on you, they get brittle from
the heat. You could take the bulb out of the light, HA HA

Hey Benton, the easiest way to tell the true 1 ton floater axle is by
the large center hub and they have a large 6 bolt lugnut pattern as
opposed to the small 5 lug pattern on the stock truck. The
motorhomes converted under the recall have the stock 5 lug wheel in
front and the 6 lug hole in rear. A true 1 ton chassis has the large
6 lug in front and rear and use the same wheels front and back. Hope
this helps some.

--- In toyota-campers@..., "Benton " <wildlife@i...> wrote:

OK here we go.

I went and got the dulies of the ole Toyota wrecker today and

started

wondering if perhaps this ole peice of junk might have a 1 ton axel
on it. He only wants 75.00 dollers for the axel, so it would be

quite

the blessing. I wrote all the numbers of the door panel and took

them

to a dealership, but they could not tell me if it was a 1 ton. I

then

called Toyota headquarters and they could not either. The question
is: how do you tell if an axel is a 1 ton. This Toyota is a 77, did
they make a 1 ton then? here is all the info I got off the door

panel

GUAR 4100/1860
GAWR
FRT. 1850/840

REAR 2540/1152 E78

VIN RN42-027323


Any help would be appreaciated. I also appreciate the advice already
given.

Benton

It's doubtful the 77 had a floating axle (true one ton).

Please re-read all the posts from Nolan.

The one ton axle is easy to identify. It has large center
hub that protrudes into the outside wheel of the pair.
Look at the dual wheels on an 18 wheeler's trailer, and
you will get the Idea. The Toyota's one ton hub is the
same, only smaller.

Jack A2

OK here we go.

I went and got the dulies of the ole Toyota wrecker today and started
wondering if perhaps this ole peice of junk might have a 1 ton axel
on it. He only wants 75.00 dollers for the axel, so it would be quite
the blessing. I wrote all the numbers of the door panel and took them
to a dealership, but they could not tell me if it was a 1 ton. I then
called Toyota headquarters and they could not either. The question
is: how do you tell if an axel is a 1 ton. This Toyota is a 77, did
they make a 1 ton then? here is all the info I got off the door panel

GUAR 4100/1860
GAWR
FRT. 1850/840
REAR 2540/1152 E78

VIN RN42-027323


Any help would be appreaciated. I also appreciate the advice already
given.

Yes they sell the trucks off you can go to uhaul.com and find a link to
trucks but I am sure by know all those are long sold by uhaul but maybe a
private owner might have one to sell. I wanted to get a trailer but they
won't sell the trailers because they claim they have them manufactured just
for them and there are trade secrets into the design.

MY 86 22RE (FI) Sunrader's check engine light comes
on after about 20 min of drive time. When I let off
the gas peddle it goes out and stays out for about
10 mins then comes on again. This repeats itself.
It also flashes when I let off the gas to go down
an off ramp.

I did the code check and it shows 5 flashs = oxygen
sensor.

My question is; does anyone have a quick fix I might
try, as it's to cold to get out there and fight with
getting that oxy sensor off.

Jack A2

My friend's 1985 Sunrader, 19 ft had both rear wheel
bearings fail. He had just purchased the rig and took
a 5k trip out west.

He lucked out and was back in Mi when a motorist pulled
along side of him and told him his left rear wheel was
smoking. He took the rig in to a local shop and they re-
placed the Rt and Lt bearings. The fix lasted 150 miles.

End result was both axles had to be replaced, plus bearings
and misc. his cost was around $1,400 which I thought
was reasonable. He got his money back from the first shop.
The old bearings were junk and the one on the right was in
pieces.

My friend's Sunrader has after market duals and the bearings
went out at 77k. He does not overload, but does not watch
his tire pressure as well as he should.

If anyone else on the list knows of a bearing failure, the
millage on it when it failed would be valued info for
our Archive.

Jack A2
86 Sunrader Pop Up.

Someone,on another list,was talking about the Toyota
truck they had rented from Ryder, back in the eightys.
I too rented one of these. It was a Toyota 4cyl with
dual wheels. That's all I remember. At the time, I
was really surprised at what it would haul,and how
well it drove.

So, the questions are; what happened to all those
Trucks? Are some of them still setting around in behind
Rental outlets? What do these rental chains do with old
trucks? Can we find these hidden grave yards, and are
they treasure troves of old 1 ton axles and such?

Anyone know the answers?


I have two more subjects to discuss, but I will post
them separate to help maintain our Archive.

Jack A2

Someone,on another list,was talking about the Toyota
truck they had rented from Ryder, back in the eightys.
I too rented one of these. It was a Toyota 4cyl with
dual wheels. That's all I remember. At the time, I
was really surprised at what it would haul,and how
well it drove.

So, the questions are; what happened to all those
Trucks? Are some of them still setting around in behind
Rental outlets? What do these rental chains do with old
trucks? Can we find these hidden grave yards, and, are
they, treasure troves of old 1 ton axles and such?

Anyone know the answers?


I have two more subjects to discuss, but I will post
them separate to help maintain our Archive.

Jack A2

Marcus,
I am with Jack that sounds like alot of work. I would either try to
find a used toyota camper which you could fix-up or I would try to
find a small truck camper that fits you existing pick-up. You culd
always modify an older camper to fit your needs, engine, tranny and so
on. Best of Luck! Nate