Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
Factory brake shoes are still available
https://www.nissanpartsdeal.com/parts/nissan-shoe-set-rr~44060-10w25.html?vin=&make=Nissan&model=Hardbody%20Pickup%20(D21)&year=1987&submodel=&extra1=&extra2=&filter=(1=WT;2=VG30;3=DX%2fE;4=AT;5=R4;6=LB;7=2WD;8=FED)
Let me guess. The ones you bought that didn't fit were Centric.?
Linda S
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
I have changed everything on my brake system Except the rear brake shoes. The ones I ordered from Rock auto were the wrong size. As Buss said, I think the shoes might be glazed over. Replacing my rear shoes will be my next step.
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
Roy, I don't know what brake "properly" even means on a Nissan!!!? But my? Toyota Sunrader will almost THROW me out the windshield, if I touch the brake pedal, a bit. In fact I got flashed by the red light camera, once time, because I didn't wanna stop on a dime and have my camping groceries rolling all over the floor.? So you know, it is not about "the weight".? I got the ticket dismissed, tho.?? -- Julia - Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
I know this is unlikely, but has anyone checked to see if the brake pads/shoes are
contaminated with grease or some other problematic material?
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Your system may have plenty of pressure and the friction linings may have
plenty of thickness, but if the linings are contaminated...you're gonna have a bad time.
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The no-start is simply too hard to diagnose over the InterTubes. Someone still needs to
establish if the engine is missing spark or fuel when it happens.
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Good luck,
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Buzz L.
San Jose, CA
Former '86 Dolphin, '89 HiLux and '96 Tacoma owner
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
Where is this ball thing and what is it called. Can you find a part number? According to the Nissan website there is no proportioning valve until 1992. Since it's clear that they have been having trouble finding mechanics who are willing to work on them exact info is needed to get it removed. My Nissan brakes are OK but I would probably remove mine too. More brakes are always a good thing
Linda S
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
Nissan does have one and it is adjustable, however unlike the Toyota it uses a cylinder with a ball inside that rolls with the fore and the aft of the vehicle during braking, modulating the rear brake application. Since the rear is so heavy on the motorhome? chassis it could be considered fully loaded at all times, a decision could be made to remove it completely, this would give full pressure to the rear brakes.
Something worth considering.
I once owned a Nissan Lakeview built on the 720 chassis and those brakes were awesome!
Aaron from Colorado
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
No proportioning valve on the early ones.
Linda S
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
Has anyone checked the brake proportioning valve? (I assuming the Nissan has an adjustable one as does the Toyota.)
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https://www.onallcylinders.com/2019/06/27/brake-proportioning-valves-101-how-they-work-which-style-to-choose/
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?I added a backup years ago, never need to really use mirrors or rear window, mirror since, tho i recommend still utilizing.... back up cam appears on rearview mirror, shows when getting close with green, yellow, RED areas.? ? I guess i always feel, if uncertain, stop, get out and look when backing into parking, etc. But definately worth the investment
On Monday, July 29, 2024 at 03:30:56 PM EDT, hobie17li <dhadams3@...> wrote:
You might wish to add a back-up camera. It is just another aid.
Caution: my brother hit something in his driveway in his Suraru
Tribeca and he has a back-up cam.
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
I too have found it difficult to find someone competent to work on the campers -- gotta find an "OG"!
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Thanks for mentioning the brake booster and master cylinder (two things I didn't know existed!), as my newer camper does seem to have more of a mushy feeling. One mechanic "bled the lines" and one pulled off the tires and inspected the brakes, saying they were 60% and 80% and didn't need replacing. So that gives me two more things to mention to my new mechanic.
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Good luck with yours! Sue
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You might wish to add a back-up camera. It is just another aid.
Caution: my brother hit something in his driveway in his Suraru
Tribeca and he has a back-up cam.
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
Julia I feel your pain with the Nissan brake problems. My front brakes work well, it's the rear brakes that don't brake properly. Keep us up on any progress.
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Re: Scary ineffective lousy brakes on 1986 NIssan D21 Hardbody Sunrader
Since I do not live 100% of the time with the Sunrader in the subject line, I am slow at dealing with it's issues.? 2 months ago, I took it to a mechanic new to me, referral from a long string of other shops who won't deal with my "Motorhome" (too old, too high, too heavy, no place to put it under insurance, mechanics too young, don't know anything about it, "We don't work on? anything older than 1996").? This mechanic has several vehicles and some motorhomes like mine, that have "Arizona Historic Vehicle copy license plates" (older than 25 years), on his lot, which is on a piece of land that he owns.? The Owner showed me that the front brake master cylinders didn't have any pressure, so I didn't have front brakes.? So he changed both ft. and rear(ft, and rear are the same part and words Front and Rear are even embossed on the part).
? Well new brake master cylinder didn't make a difference in the braking feel.? His employee Andy, owns a Nissan D21, Hardbody I think it is a 1992, and he has another one.? I don't know what is normal in these Nissan trucks, but Andy drove it and agreed "Mine takes too much pressure on the pedal for not much braking power".? Andy feels it is a bad brake booster that has no vacuum, cos a leaking brake master cylinder above the booster, can ruin the booster.? If not that, Andy has to take apart the rear wheels.??
The other issue, that the Nissan Sunrader "won't start" from time to time, especially when 32 degrees, everyone says "have to diagnose when it happens", which time before it happened, after waiting 3 hours for a tow truck to come to the Pilot truck stop 30 miles east of Quartzsite (I was going to Tika's Rally last Jan), when tow truck finally arrived, of course, the Sunrader started immediately, after that tow truck driver drove 75 miles to come get me.? Steve, whatever you did at the Rally, it didn't fix the issue.? It didn't start again in Feb, when I went to the Tucson Gem Show and spent the night at Walmart, but it always "starts later the same day", or on another day, so I have never been forever stranded, and have never been towed.
The brake repair is for another day, at the end of this year,?
Julia? -- Julia - Scottsdale, AZ
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Hi, I'm a woman with a 21' Sunrader and have had many an adventure.? One tip in case you don't know...back in to your spot but only about half way...get out and take a look for any trees and limbs extending into the spot, electric poles or high curbs that may be too close (both sides and back) and slowly park accordingly.? May take a couple times but you can do it.? Remember your mirrors do not see the very back of your spot. The older parks may be tighter spaces but usually best! Happy Trails, Diana
On Monday, July 15, 2024 at 06:24:39 PM PDT, Cheryl F <misschero@...> wrote:
Hello everyone! My son came by to look at the damage and showed me that it was from the rig scraping against a wooden light post when I was pulling out. He even pointed out the flecks of yellow from the reflector strips on the pole. I need to be more careful! I've never driven a large vehicle til now.? Thank you all for your help and insight, I do appreciate it! I'll share it all with my son and go from there.? I will definitely be back with different questions as I learn more about my lil' rig in the?future. I hope all?is well with you and yours!
Have a great day, Cheryl
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those mirrors are your friends . look at them alot
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Hello everyone! My son came by to look at the damage and showed me that it was from the rig scraping against a wooden light post when I was pulling out. He even pointed out the flecks of yellow from the reflector strips on the pole. I need to be more careful! I've never driven a large vehicle til now.? Thank you all for your help and insight, I do appreciate it! I'll share it all with my son and go from there.? I will definitely be back with different questions as I learn more about my lil' rig in the?future. I hope all?is well with you and yours!
Have a great day, Cheryl
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While it's difficult to tell from just the photos, this does not look like collision damage to me.
I think what happened is the fasteners holding the corner trim piece to conform to the contours of the back wall/side wall joint
have pulled out of the wood, likely due to the wood rotting from moisture intrusion. If forced to guess, I suspect the trim
piece was pulled up a bit by something like a tree branch catching on it, which allowed water to get in and soften the wood
around the fasteners.
In the long term, you should probably do a more thorough inspection to see how extensive the wood deterioration is and
what allowed the water intrusion, and correct that situation when you can.
In the short term, I don't believe any significant additional damage will be caused by driving the ToyHome in its current
condition. A quick-and-dirty cosmetic repair to prevent further moisture intrusion is desirable, but not strictly necessary.
If you're son is handy, he should have no trouble with the techniques involved. RV coaches like your Dolphin are basically
wood frames covered with plywood (and some fiberglass sheeting).
Good luck,
Buzz L.
San Jose, CA
Former '86 Dolphin, '89 HiLux, and '96 Tacoma owner
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That's a decent sized trip if you have any structural damage, do you have an honest body shop or best rv place that can just look at it to see if it is still structurally okay, if so your son sounds like he could do a fine job, and the caulking idea might work fine.? Best of luck on your first adventure!
Greetings! I'm Cheryl, I just joined, thanks, it's good to be here. I finally got my 86' Toyota Dolphin on May 8th and I love it! This is my first post.?
I guess I backed into something and now a seam on the rear of my lil' Dolphin is damaged. Is this something I can fix myself or is it a job for a professional? My son is very good at fixing most everything. I have a short trip planned for this weekend, about an hour and a half away from home. I feel like driving the rig like this will make it worse. I really hope we can fix it before Friday. Fix it tips would be greatly appreciated!?
Thanks for looking, Cheryl
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Absolutely. Stainless steel or weatherproof screws are better to use in this situation. ------Andymon
p.s. don't use the old holes. the screws have pulled out of the wood in those places. drill some new holes in the trim
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roy vannoy
Julia
hobie17li
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Cheryl F