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Many thanks to Erik's efforts, we expect to be able to launch tinySA ULTRA plus in the coming month!? Includes two versions, the ZS-406 and ZS-407, the ZS-406 will go on sale next week and the ZS-407 is expected to go on sale at the end of December.
The ZS-406 version is used to replace the current version of tinySA ULTRA,up to 900MHz in normal mode to cover the European 868MHz ISM band.
The ULTRA mode of the ZS-407 version can go up to 7.3 GHz without the use of harmonics, and the LNA is effective over the full frequency range. With LNA on at 6GHz, DANL is as low as 163dBm/Hz, possible to use the fastest 850kHz RBW to find small signals as low as -100dBm.
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The look of tinySA ULTRA plus will remain the same as the current version of tinySA ULTRA, and the firmware will remain compatible with tinySA ULTRA, which means that any of your peripherals and apps developed for tinySA ULTRA can be seamlessly migrated to the new tinySA ULTRA plus.
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Below are the pre-release specs, there may be some changes in the final version, the final version is based on what Erik has posted on the wiki.
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Parameter
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tinySA ULTRA
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tinySA ULTRA+ ZS-406
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tinySA ULTRA+ ZS-407
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Display size
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3.98” IPS-TFT LCD (480×320)
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3.98” IPS-TFT LCD (480×320)
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3.98” IPS-TFT LCD (480×320)
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Max low input frequency
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800MHz, 5.3GHz in Ultra mode
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800MHz, 5.4GHz in Ultra mode
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800MHz, 7.3GHz in Ultra mode
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Resolution filters in 1,3,10 steps
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from 200Hz to 850kHz
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from 200Hz to 850kHz
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from 200Hz to 850kHz
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Max output frequency
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Sinus up to 800MHz, Square wave up to 4.4GHz
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Sinus up to 900MHz, Square wave up to 4.4GHz
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Sinus up to 900MHz, Square wave up to 6.3GHz
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output level
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-115dBm to -19dBm
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-115dBm to -19dBm
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-115dBm to -19dBm
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Ultra mode
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Level calibrated up to 6GHz
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Level calibrated up to 6GHz
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Level calibrated up to 8GHz
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Internal LNA gain
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20dB up to 4GHz
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20dB up to 4GHz
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20dB up to 7.3GHz
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Displayed points per scan
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max 450
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max 450
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max 450
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0-350MHz scan time
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165ms
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165ms
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165ms
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Shortest zero span time
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14 ms for 450 points
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14 ms for 450 points
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14 ms for 450 points
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DANL at 100MHz
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-153dBm/Hz (LNA Off) / -169dBm/Hz (LNA On)
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-153dBm/Hz (LNA Off) / -169dBm/Hz (LNA On)
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-153dBm/Hz (LNA Off) / -169dBm/Hz (LNA On)
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DANL degrading in ultra mode
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10dB above 3GHz, 25dB above 5.3GHz
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5dB above 3GHz, 20dB above 5.4GHz
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5dB above 5GHz, 24dB above 7.3GHz
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Phase noise at 10kHz offset
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-92dBc/Hz
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-92dBc/Hz
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-100dBc/Hz
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Phase noise at 100kHz offset
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-108dBc/Hz
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-108dBc/Hz
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-103dBc/Hz
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Input 1dB compression level
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+0.5dBm (LNA Off) / -26.5dBm (LNA On)
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+0.5dBm (LNA Off) / -26.5dBm (LNA On)
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+0.5dBm (LNA Off) / -25dBm (LNA On)
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IIP3 without LNA
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+18dBm (at least 2MHz apart) / 0dBm (500Hz apart)
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+18dBm (at least 2MHz apart) / 0dBm (500Hz apart)
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+18dBm (at least 2MHz apart) / 0dBm (500Hz apart)
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IIP3 with LNA
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-8dBm (at least 2MHz apart)
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-8dBm (at least 2MHz apart)
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-8dBm (at least 2MHz apart)
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Frequency stability
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<1ppm ( -10℃ ~ +55℃)
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<1ppm ( -10℃ ~ +55℃)
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<1ppm ( -10℃ ~ +55℃)
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SD card slot
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micro SD card
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micro SD card
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micro SD card
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Audio out
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3.5mm headphone plug
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3.5mm headphone plug
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3.5mm headphone plug
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FW update mode activation
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Push jog button before switch on
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Push jog button before switch on
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Push jog button before switch on
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Maximum current consumption
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330mA
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350mA
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400mA
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Maximum charging current
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1300mA
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1300mA
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1300mA
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Battery
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Li-polymer 3.7V 3000mAh
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Li-polymer 3.7V 5000mAh
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Li-polymer 3.7V 5000mAh
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RF connectors
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SMA female
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SMA female
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SMA female
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Communication Interface
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USB-CDC(Type-C)，UART-TTL(2.54mm Connector)
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USB-CDC(Type-C)，UART-TTL(2.54mm Connector)
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USB-CDC(Type-C)，UART-TTL(2.54mm Connector)
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Appearance Size
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117x72x23mm (Excluding protruding parts)
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117x72x23mm (Excluding protruding parts)
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117x72x23mm (Excluding protruding parts)
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This is amazing,
May I ask will this make 7G analysis more sensitive ??
Many Thanks?
Many thanks to Erik's efforts, we expect to be able to launch tinySA ULTRA plus in the coming month!? Includes two versions, the ZS-406 and ZS-407, the ZS-406 will go on sale next week and the ZS-407 is expected to go on sale at the end of December.
The ZS-406 version is used to replace the current version of tinySA ULTRA,up to 900MHz in normal mode to cover the European 868MHz ISM band.
The ULTRA mode of the ZS-407 version can go up to 7.3 GHz without the use of harmonics, and the LNA is effective over the full frequency range. With LNA on at 6GHz, DANL is as low as 163dBm/Hz, possible to use the fastest 850kHz RBW to find small signals as low as -100dBm.
?
The look of tinySA ULTRA plus will remain the same as the current version of tinySA ULTRA, and the firmware will remain compatible with tinySA ULTRA, which means that any of your peripherals and apps developed for tinySA ULTRA can be seamlessly migrated to the new tinySA ULTRA plus.
?
Below are the pre-release specs, there may be some changes in the final version, the final version is based on what Erik has posted on the wiki.
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Parameter
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tinySA ULTRA
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tinySA ULTRA+ ZS-406
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tinySA ULTRA+ ZS-407
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Display size
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3.98” IPS-TFT LCD (480×320)
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3.98” IPS-TFT LCD (480×320)
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3.98” IPS-TFT LCD (480×320)
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Max low input frequency
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800MHz, 5.3GHz in Ultra mode
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800MHz, 5.4GHz in Ultra mode
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800MHz, 7.3GHz in Ultra mode
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Resolution filters in 1,3,10 steps
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from 200Hz to 850kHz
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from 200Hz to 850kHz
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from 200Hz to 850kHz
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Max output frequency
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Sinus up to 800MHz, Square wave up to 4.4GHz
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Sinus up to 900MHz, Square wave up to 4.4GHz
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Sinus up to 900MHz, Square wave up to 6.3GHz
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output level
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-115dBm to -19dBm
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-115dBm to -19dBm
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-115dBm to -19dBm
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Ultra mode
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Level calibrated up to 6GHz
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Level calibrated up to 6GHz
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Level calibrated up to 8GHz
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Internal LNA gain
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20dB up to 4GHz
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20dB up to 4GHz
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20dB up to 7.3GHz
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Displayed points per scan
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max 450
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max 450
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max 450
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0-350MHz scan time
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165ms
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165ms
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165ms
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Shortest zero span time
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14 ms for 450 points
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14 ms for 450 points
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14 ms for 450 points
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DANL at 100MHz
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-153dBm/Hz (LNA Off) / -169dBm/Hz (LNA On)
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-153dBm/Hz (LNA Off) / -169dBm/Hz (LNA On)
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-153dBm/Hz (LNA Off) / -169dBm/Hz (LNA On)
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DANL degrading in ultra mode
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10dB above 3GHz, 25dB above 5.3GHz
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5dB above 3GHz, 20dB above 5.4GHz
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5dB above 5GHz, 24dB above 7.3GHz
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Phase noise at 10kHz offset
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-92dBc/Hz
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-92dBc/Hz
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-100dBc/Hz
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Phase noise at 100kHz offset
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-108dBc/Hz
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-108dBc/Hz
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-103dBc/Hz
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Input 1dB compression level
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+0.5dBm (LNA Off) / -26.5dBm (LNA On)
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+0.5dBm (LNA Off) / -26.5dBm (LNA On)
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+0.5dBm (LNA Off) / -25dBm (LNA On)
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IIP3 without LNA
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+18dBm (at least 2MHz apart) / 0dBm (500Hz apart)
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+18dBm (at least 2MHz apart) / 0dBm (500Hz apart)
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+18dBm (at least 2MHz apart) / 0dBm (500Hz apart)
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IIP3 with LNA
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-8dBm (at least 2MHz apart)
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-8dBm (at least 2MHz apart)
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-8dBm (at least 2MHz apart)
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Frequency stability
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<1ppm ( -10℃ ~ +55℃)
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<1ppm ( -10℃ ~ +55℃)
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<1ppm ( -10℃ ~ +55℃)
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SD card slot
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micro SD card
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micro SD card
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micro SD card
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Audio out
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3.5mm headphone plug
|
3.5mm headphone plug
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3.5mm headphone plug
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FW update mode activation
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Push jog button before switch on
|
Push jog button before switch on
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Push jog button before switch on
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Maximum current consumption
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330mA
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350mA
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400mA
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Maximum charging current
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1300mA
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1300mA
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1300mA
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Battery
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Li-polymer 3.7V 3000mAh
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Li-polymer 3.7V 5000mAh
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Li-polymer 3.7V 5000mAh
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RF connectors
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SMA female
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SMA female
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SMA female
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Communication Interface
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USB-CDC(Type-C)，UART-TTL(2.54mm Connector)
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USB-CDC(Type-C)，UART-TTL(2.54mm Connector)
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USB-CDC(Type-C)，UART-TTL(2.54mm Connector)
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Appearance Size
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117x72x23mm (Excluding protruding parts)
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117x72x23mm (Excluding protruding parts)
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117x72x23mm (Excluding protruding parts)
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The DANL of the three products at 7 GHz are as follows
tinySA ULTRA? -127dBm/Hz
ZS-406 -132dBm/Hz
ZS-407 -157dBm/Hz
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You can consider the sensitivity at 7 GHz to be 5 dB better for the ZS-406 than the tinySA ULTRA and 30 dB better for the ZS-407 than the tinySA ULTRA.
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 03:53 PM, Ash McKenzie wrote:
This is amazing,
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May I ask will this make 7G analysis more sensitive ??
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Many Thanks?
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Can orders be placed now???
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On Nov 30, 2024, at 03:46, Hugen via groups.io <hugen@...> wrote:
? The DANL of the three products at 7 GHz are as follows
tinySA ULTRA? -127dBm/Hz
ZS-406 -132dBm/Hz
ZS-407 -157dBm/Hz
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You can consider the sensitivity at 7 GHz to be 5 dB better for the ZS-406 than the tinySA ULTRA and 30 dB better for the ZS-407 than the tinySA ULTRA.
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 03:53 PM, Ash McKenzie wrote:
This is amazing,
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May I ask will this make 7G analysis more sensitive ??
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Many Thanks?
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 10:25 PM, Hugen wrote:
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Parameter
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tinySA ULTRA
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tinySA ULTRA+ ZS-406
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tinySA ULTRA+ ZS-407
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Max low input frequency
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800MHz, 5.3GHz in Ultra mode
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800MHz, 5.4GHz in Ultra mode
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800MHz, 7.3GHz in Ultra mode
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In the table above, shouldn't the "Max low input frequency" be 900MHz for the ZS-406 and ZS-407 in the normal mode?
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Herb
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Is it possible to get a preview of the prices of the new units ?
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 10:25 PM, Hugen wrote:
Many thanks to Erik's efforts, we expect to be able to launch tinySA ULTRA plus in the coming month!? Includes two versions, the ZS-406 and ZS-407...
Erik,
? ?When will the ZS-406 and ZS-407 be added to the Wiki?
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Herb
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Shortly after this announcement
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Designer of the tinySA
For more info go to
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Hello Kurt, sorry for the oversight. "Max low input frequency" should be 900MHz for the ZS-406 and ZS-407 in the normal mode
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Thanks for great update!
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Will the scanning speed increase compared to the regular ultra?
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM, T6 wrote:
Will the scanning speed increase compared to the regular ultra?
No
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Designer of the tinySA
For more info go to
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From specificatiins I would assume yes.
It seems everyone wants faster scan times.
Is it just down to CPU? Is it an upgrade that is reasonable? This device is really important because it is afordable.
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No, its not all CPU.? If you're a digital type, that may seem be the weak link.? However, it is not.? Swepting too fast through a narrow filter will alias and misrepresent the signal.? On the screen an unmodulated "spike" in frequency becomes a bad rendition of a double exponential with a long tail.? Ever heard of ringing due to a narrow analog or digital filter?? Something similar is happening by scanning too fast.? It's not in the digital domain.? Both analog and digital filters suffer from ringing - shock excitation much like the clapper striking the bell.
Dave - W?LEV?
From specificatiins I would assume yes.
It seems everyone wants faster scan times.
Is it just down to CPU? Is it an upgrade that is reasonable? This device is really important because it is afordable.
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Sorry if the question is not in the right place. how can we know which version it is, ZS-405, ZS-405 or ZS-407
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So far I only see the 406 and 406 on Ali express Zeenko store. Seems the 407 is not yet on the market. The 406 is priced at US120 plus shipping and tax.
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John
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Hi John,
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In his first post in this thread, Hugen stated:
"... the ZS-406 will go on sale next week and the ZS-407 is expected to go on sale at the end of December."
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73
Evan
AC9TU
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 01:03 AM, zeljko adzic wrote:
Sorry if the question is not in the right place. how can we know which version it is, ZS-405, ZS-405 or ZS-407
The version is shown on the label at the back.
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 01:03 AM, zeljko adzic wrote:
Sorry if the question is not in the right place. how can we know which version it is, ZS-405, ZS-405 or ZS-407
The version is shown on the label at the back.
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:00 AM, zeljko adzic wrote:
Can you explain??
New labeling.
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Current model is ZS-405. Newer plus models are ZS-406 and ZS-407.? ZS-406 is currently for sale at:
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Herb
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John Cunliffe W7ZQ
