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Re: New FW release: THD measurement added

 

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 04:41 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
New FW release
Version v1.1-9

Changes:
- Disabled serial console due to insufficient space
Erik,
? I'm not sure what serial console in the FW you are referring to.? There is a serial console function in tinySA-App for sending console commands, but on the PC side space should not be an issue.

?- Herb

- Herb?


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

Using the .dfu file the command line is even shorter
dfu-util -a 0 -D tinySA.dfu


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

For updating using linux there is a program call dfu-util

It also runs under windows, this is my commandline
c:\work\DFU\dfu-util? -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D c:\work\VNA\tinySA\build\tinySA.bin
under linux this should be something similar

remember: you can NOT brick a nanoVNA or tinySA. If the update goes wrong, worst case you have to open the housing and connect two contact while powering on and you always can try again


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

The firmware DFU files are not big really, about 100kb. I guess that¡¯s getting close to filling up the internal storage. On Linux there is tinySA-Saver but I¡¯ve been told it barely functions. For flashing the firmware on Linux it looks like there is some command line programs.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 6:52 AM Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi,

I have a nanoVNA H4 and now 2 of the tinySA. I have been reluctant to
install any of the "upgrades". I can now afford to risk one of the
tinySA units to try installing the "new, improved, giant economy size"
software. I am not using PC software for these yet and may decide to not
use it. I will not have Windows in my home - actually my computer. So
updates to exe files have no appeal unless they will run under WINE.

I will go to the files and WIKIs to get a handle on what to do.

73,

Bill? KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 10/6/20 11:42 PM, josephlevy via wrote:
> Hi Erik
>
> Now it works as designed!
>
> Thank you very much.
> Every new version makes the combo TinySA and the App. more useful.
>
>? ?????? Joe
>





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73,
Tripp Sanders
K5TRP


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

Hi,

I have a nanoVNA H4 and now 2 of the tinySA. I have been reluctant to install any of the "upgrades". I can now afford to risk one of the tinySA units to try installing the "new, improved, giant economy size" software. I am not using PC software for these yet and may decide to not use it. I will not have Windows in my home - actually my computer. So updates to exe files have no appeal unless they will run under WINE.

I will go to the files and WIKIs to get a handle on what to do.

73,

Bill KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 10/6/20 11:42 PM, josephlevy via groups.io wrote:
Hi Erik
Now it works as designed!
Thank you very much.
Every new version makes the combo TinySA and the App. more useful.
?????? Joe


New FW release: THD measurement added

 

New FW release
Version v1.1-9

Changes:
- Disabled serial console due to insufficient space
- Added THD measurement so MEASUREMENT/MORE menu

The THD measurement gives the % TDH of the signal that is under the first marker by summing the power of all harmonics of the signal under the first marker in the current scan
The maximum number of harmonics you can take into account is about 30 so with a full span in low mode you can measure the THD of the cal output at 15MHz and 30MHZ but not 10MHz or lower.
For lower frequencies reduce the span till the THD measurement appears.

Can someone check if the measured number is about correct?


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

Hi Erik

Now it works as designed!

Thank you very much.
Every new version makes the combo TinySA and the App. more useful.

?????? Joe


Re: Different scan images when USB connected

 

Dragan and Jim,
Thanks for the input. I'll look for a better USB cable other than the ones that came with the SA. I have some ferrite cores so I took one and wrapped a few loops around it at the SA micro USB end. Seems to have worked a little.?I don't have a USB isolator so I'll see what I can find on the InterWebs. More tests foreseen.?
Thanks again!
*** Walt *** WA7SDY ***

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020, 07:19:10 PM PDT, Jim Shorney <jshorney@...> wrote:



That is the simplest answer. RF will go where it wants to go. What you have there is a very unbalanced antenna system. A USB isolator may help.

73

-Jim
NU0C


On Tue, 06 Oct 2020 07:14:57 -0700
"Erik Kaashoek" <erik@...> wrote:

> Oh, you are using the telescopic antenna at the input and then you connect a USB cable.
> The USB cable is acting as part of the antenna and is picking up a huge amount of noise.
>
> The same thing happens when you have a signal generator and a tinySA and both are connected to the computer with USB and the cable between the generator and the tinySA is not the lowest resistance between the two devices (because of bad cable or bad contact)






Re: Different scan images when USB connected

 

That is the simplest answer. RF will go where it wants to go. What you have there is a very unbalanced antenna system. A USB isolator may help.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Tue, 06 Oct 2020 07:14:57 -0700
"Erik Kaashoek" <erik@...> wrote:

Oh, you are using the telescopic antenna at the input and then you connect a USB cable.
The USB cable is acting as part of the antenna and is picking up a huge amount of noise.

The same thing happens when you have a signal generator and a tinySA and both are connected to the computer with USB and the cable between the generator and the tinySA is not the lowest resistance between the two devices (because of bad cable or bad contact)


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

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Hi Erik,

I regret to say that the localization problem still exist. I'm using comma as decimal separator in the Windows regional configuration and the program throws this error: "Range check errors" when trying to leave the program (it is due to live.csv file writing attempt). The same happens when trying to save any CSV file. The problem is also in v 1.0.240.3 where is was tried to fix.

I found another remaining text from the cousin program:? The Marker info shows S11 instead of tLevel when in Log Power(dBm). It is shown ok when in Lin Power (Watt).

Best regards,

Ignacio EB4APL


El 06/10/2020 a las 11:34, Erik Kaashoek escribi¨®:
Release tinySA-App 1.0.240.4
Changes:
- Added External Amp setting
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Libre de virus.


Re: New FW release: offset command added for external amp setting

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 10:33 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
New FW released
Version v1.1-7
Changes:
- Serial port integrated
- Offset console command added to support External Amp setting from tinySA-App
Erik,
? The 'External Amp' setting is working on my installation.? In the screen capture below I have a 6dB attenuator attached between the 30MHz CAL out and the low port.? With -6dB entered in the tinySA-App 'External Amp' box, the tinySA 'Amp' status display is shown as -6.0dB and both tinySA and tinySA-App show a corrected value of -24.6dBm at 30MHz.

? ?

?The 'External Amp' value isn't transferred automatically from the tinySA to tinySA-App in the opposite direction, but the measured levels match, which is the important thing.

The 'Full Range' button seems to be mislabeled as it doesn't really change the tinySA-App sweep settings to the full range - unless the tinySA is set to the full range.

- Herb


Re: Different scan images when USB connected

 

Try it with a good quality USB cable. Most big brand phone chargers
come with properly built cables so that's an easy source.
Most "replacement" USB cables are not build up to spec, no shielding,
non bonded shells, etc.


On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 17:33, Walt M. via <wa7sdy_1=[email protected]> wrote:
Good info!
I'll try that (choke on USB) and see what happens. Off to do more experiments and tests!
Thanks again everyone!
*** Walt *** WA7SDY ***

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020, 08:20:58 AM PDT, Erik Kaashoek <erik@...> wrote:


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 07:58 AM, OneOfEleven wrote:
or did you wind the cable around a toriod ring I wonder
3 turns on a toroid ring


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

Make sure you install v1.1-7


New FW release: offset command added for external amp setting

 

New FW released
Version v1.1-7
Changes:
- Serial port integrated
- Offset console command added to support External Amp setting from tinySA-App


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

BTW it works fine if I do it on the TiniSA screen!
Joe


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

Hi
1.1-5 ge0ab998

And I see in the .ini file 'offset' according to the number I type in the box, but no change of scale ...
I'll try to re-flash the FW
TIA?? Joe.


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

Which FW du you run


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 06:49 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
It should change when you? hit enter or when you do a scan
Indeed, no units, just a number

Hi Erik
So for me it does not... (other things appear to work fine!)
Will wait for the next versions...

Thanks for all the great work on the HW and SW ( you and OneofEleven)

??????????????????????????????? Joe


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

It should change when you? hit enter or when you do a scan
Indeed, no units, just a number


Re: New tinySA-App.exe: Added mode, rbw and attenuation buttons

 

Hi Erik
Getting better and better...
Somehow I don't get the "external amplifier" gain to change the displayed gain ....(I just type in a number like 25 and 'enter', no units?...)

TIA Joe.