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Re: My Menus Don't Match Videos

 

Don't worry, you have the latest FW.

The way traces are handle has seen a considerable change, and it may confuse people, but I can not redo all video's

STORE TRACE is now in the TRACE MENU and call COPY -> TRACE
CALC also?moved to the TRACE menu

Suggest you watch this video explaining the changes:?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FIFO5vgGk0
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


My Menus Don't Match Videos

 

Hello,
I just got a TinySA with v1.3-320 firmware. I'm trying to learn how to store a trace by watching the videos, but the videos do not match what I see on my screen.?
For instance. In my "Display" menu. I don't have a "Trace" or a "Calc" choice. I only see:
Pause Sweep
Waterfall
Sweep Time
Sweep Points
Sweep Accuracy
<-- Back

I do have a "Trace" option in the main menu, above "Display", but there's no Store Trace Option there either.

Do I have a clone since my menus don't match the videos? Everything else points to a real device.


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

In the row od buttons at the very top of the app screen is one that looks like a camera.

73

-Jim
NU0C


On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 22:29:33 -0500
"Renee Culver" <rmctwoo@...> wrote:

How do I invoke it?

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Sent from Mail for Windows

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From: Jim Shorney
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 9:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles

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The Tinysa-app computer software allows you to save screen captures.

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73

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-Jim

NU0C

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On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:55:10 -0500

"Renee Culver" <rmctwoo@...> wrote:

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Don¡¯t have cell phone¡­.have regular phone.
Renee
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Thomas via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles
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Just use your phone and take close pic of the TinySA showing the self test results.
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Don.?? K5ZRQ
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On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 3:42 PM, Renee Culver
<rmctwoo@... <mailto:rmctwoo@...> > wrote:
Ok-how do I get the tinysa to print a png?
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Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

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How do I invoke it?

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Sent from for Windows

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From: Jim Shorney
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 9:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles

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The Tinysa-app computer software allows you to save screen captures.

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73

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-Jim

NU0C

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On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:55:10 -0500

"Renee Culver" <rmctwoo@...> wrote:

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> Don¡¯t have cell phone¡­.have regular phone.

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> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Thomas via groups.io

> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:09 PM

> To: [email protected]

> Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles

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> Just use your phone and take close pic of the TinySA showing the self test results.

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> On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 3:42 PM, Renee Culver

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> Ok-how do I get the tinysa to print a png?

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Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

The Tinysa-app computer software allows you to save screen captures.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:55:10 -0500
"Renee Culver" <rmctwoo@...> wrote:

Don¡¯t have cell phone¡­.have regular phone.

Renee



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Thomas via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles



Just use your phone and take close pic of the TinySA showing the self test results.



Don. K5ZRQ



On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 3:42 PM, Renee Culver

<rmctwoo@... <mailto:rmctwoo@...> > wrote:

Ok-how do I get the tinysa to print a png?








Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

If using the TinySA app on a computer to give display on the monitor, you can do a screen print which copies it to the clipboard. Then you can open a new document and paste the info to the document.? Save and then can insert the document or attach to group email.?

Don. K5ZRQ?


On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 6:55 PM, Renee Culver
<rmctwoo@...> wrote:

Don¡¯t have cell phone¡­.have regular phone.

Renee

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Thomas via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles

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Just use your phone and take close pic of the TinySA showing the self test results.?

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Don.? ?K5ZRQ?

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On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 3:42 PM, Renee Culver

<rmctwoo@...> wrote:

Ok-how do I get the tinysa to print a png?


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

Andrew Shead
 

A digital camera would work, if you have one, otherwise hold the tinysa
up to the camera embedded in your computer and take a picture with
whatever software is provided with your computer, on Linux that would
be Cheese for example.

Andrew, W5AWS.

-----Original Message-----
From: Renee Culver <rmctwoo@...>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:55:10 -0500

Don¡¯t have cell phone¡­.have regular phone.
Renee
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Thomas via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles
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Just use your phone and take close pic of the TinySA showing the self
test results.?
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Don.? ?K5ZRQ?
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On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 3:42 PM, Renee Culver
<rmctwoo@...> wrote:
Ok-how do I get the tinysa to print a png?


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:57 AM, Renee Culver wrote:

Hi!

I get a floor trace +?? noise fine but? I see no signals beyond the? real time noise on new Tinysa,? not even with my ham rig running 100 watts on 3..8 mhz.. Am interested in? region between 1.0 and? 30 Mhz. Help.????

Is there something about setup that I¡¯ve missed?

Renee KC3NG

I suggest you start here and do the self-test and then post the results.



Roger


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

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Don¡¯t have cell phone¡­.have regular phone.

Renee

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Thomas via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles

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Just use your phone and take close pic of the TinySA showing the self test results.?

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Don.? ?K5ZRQ?

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On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 3:42 PM, Renee Culver

<rmctwoo@...> wrote:

Ok-how do I get the tinysa to print a png?


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

Just use your phone and take close pic of the TinySA showing the self test results.?

Don.? ?K5ZRQ?


On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 3:42 PM, Renee Culver
<rmctwoo@...> wrote:

Ok-how do I get the tinysa to print a png?


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

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Ok-how do I get the tinysa to print a png?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of hwalker
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles

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On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:57 AM, Renee Culver wrote:

Hi!

I get a floor trace +?? noise fine but? I see no signals beyond the? real time noise on new Tinysa,? not even with my ham rig running 100 watts on 3..8 mhz.. Am interested in? region between 1.0 and? 30 Mhz. Help.????

Is there something about setup that I¡¯ve missed?

Renee KC3NG

Renee,
? Does your unit pass the self-tests?? If so, you should be able to pick up the FM band using the telescopic antenna connected to the LOW input port.? Posting the results of the self-test should help Erik in troubleshooting your tinySA.

Herb


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

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Actually, although I am technical, I dont understand what? self-tests are in relation to the tinysa.

BTW tnx fer writing? back¡­..

Renee

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of hwalker
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New Tinysa-am having troubles

?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:57 AM, Renee Culver wrote:

Hi!

I get a floor trace +?? noise fine but? I see no signals beyond the? real time noise on new Tinysa,? not even with my ham rig running 100 watts on 3..8 mhz.. Am interested in? region between 1.0 and? 30 Mhz. Help.????

Is there something about setup that I¡¯ve missed?

Renee KC3NG

Renee,
? Does your unit pass the self-tests?? If so, you should be able to pick up the FM band using the telescopic antenna connected to the LOW input port.? Posting the results of the self-test should help Erik in troubleshooting your tinySA.

Herb


Re: What to do when a selftest fails

 

Okay. Thanks Dave!
Yes, I've read that attenuator-test procedure. Will try that if I see that "fail" error again; hopefully I'll never see it again!

73,
Prem
VA3UMA

On Fri., Nov. 12, 2021, 2:37 p.m. Dave via , <dvfuller=[email protected]> wrote:
If it happens again try doing the attenuator test. It's in the wiki on how to do it.


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:57 AM, Renee Culver wrote:

Hi!

I get a floor trace +?? noise fine but? I see no signals beyond the? real time noise on new Tinysa,? not even with my ham rig running 100 watts on 3..8 mhz.. Am interested in? region between 1.0 and? 30 Mhz. Help.????

Is there something about setup that I¡¯ve missed?

Renee KC3NG

Renee,
? Does your unit pass the self-tests?? If so, you should be able to pick up the FM band using the telescopic antenna connected to the LOW input port.? Posting the results of the self-test should help Erik in troubleshooting your tinySA.

Herb


Re: New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

Please post a photo so I may be able to spot the problem
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


New Tinysa-am having troubles

 

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Hi!

I get a floor trace +?? noise fine but? I see no signals beyond the? real time noise on new Tinysa,? not even with my ham rig running 100 watts on 3..8 mhz.. Am interested in? region between 1.0 and? 30 Mhz. Help.????

Is there something about setup that I¡¯ve missed?

Renee KC3NG


Re: What to do when a selftest fails

 

If it happens again try doing the attenuator test. It's in the wiki on how to do it.


Re: tinySA logarithmic sweep?

 

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 08:24 AM, EB4APL wrote:

A simple solution would be to do linear sweeps but draw log graphics (as an option). I do it in the PHSNA.

Ignacio

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? ? For comparison with measurement data from an EMC receiver making logarithmic sweeps, your suggestion would not work for Alois as the measurement increments are different between linear and logarithmic sweeps and the measurement data points will differ.

? ?In addition to logarithmic sweeping, an EMC receiver/software is capable of a lot more measurement points than the tinySA; so, a 10kHz to 30MHz sweep may need to be broken up into several frequency bands and "stitched" together when using the tinySA in order to match the measurement data from an EMC receiver.

? ?If care is taken to closely match measurement bandwidth, frequency increment, and protect the tinySA front end from 50/60Hz related harmonics/transients when connected to a Line Impedance Stabilization Network (LISN), then I agree with Alois that tinySA can be an economical measurement receiver for performing pre-compliance conducted emissions measurements.

Herb


Re: tinySA logarithmic sweep?

 

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A simple solution would be to do linear sweeps but draw log graphics (as an option). I do it in the PHSNA.

Ignacio


El 11/11/2021 a las 16:16, alois.huber@... ±ð²õ³¦°ù¾±²ú¾±¨®:
Hello Erik,
Thank you. I hope, this would come in the future, and I assume it's not so difficult, as only the LO has to be programmed with log. values. The tinySA combined with a LISN helps to do easy and cheap EMC precompliance measurements at 150 kHz ... 30 MHz. The level results are comparable with those from EMC labs, but the EMC receivers are sweeping logarithmic. So, comparison would be perfect with log. sweep.

BR,
Alois
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Libre de virus.


Re: What to do when a selftest fails

 

Hello Erik, first-off, thank you for a nice and affordable product, sir!
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Just wanted to share my experience, and test result(s):
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Purchased from Zenko store on Ali-Express. Ordered 4th October 2021. Delivered yesterday (10 Nov).
Came with FW of 5th May 21 (1.3-111).?
1) Initial self-test failed on the 12th.
2) Did a power reset, and tried again. It passed all tests.
3) I upgraded the FW to 1.3-320 (8-Nov-2021)
4) Passes all tests
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Attachments: Serial number label and failure-mode.
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I hope I don't see that "FAIL" again. :-)
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73,
Prem