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Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 01:21 AM, G8HUL wrote:
I assume that leveloffset harmonic is accessible from the console commands?
Yes
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Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 

Unfortunately it has to be very accurate, within 1 kHz,
See?
Let me see if there is a possibility to relax this requirement.
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Re: Linux Mint USB #tinysa

 

Thanks Martin!


On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 5:35 AM Ho-Ro <linuxaudio@...> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 10:51 AM, Ed Vignati wrote:
There is a learning curve to Linux ...
Ed,

Just remenber:?

Linux is really user-friendly.

It's just very picky about who its friends are.


Martin


Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 

Hi Erik.

How accurate must? the frequency? be?

I inject a 5.3420 (that's what my source steps manages) and abt.-20 dbm, and still get the 'Signal level too low or not on frequency'.


TIA??? Joe.


Re: Linux Mint USB #tinysa

 

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 10:51 AM, Ed Vignati wrote:
There is a learning curve to Linux ...
Ed,

Just remenber:?

Linux is really user-friendly.

It's just very picky about who its friends are.


Martin


Re: My tinySA Ultra Signal level Critical #ultra

 

Thanks Erik Kaashoek.


Re: Linux Mint USB #tinysa

 


Problem Solved!

Thanks to all who helped, my problem was? Did you install the udev rule? Are you member of the Group "dialout"?

I googled?Permission denied: '/dev/ttyACM0' and was able to find an answer.

There is a learning curve to Linux but I want to thank all of you who guided me in the right direction.?

Eddie kj4fgi

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 3:00 AM Ed Vignati via <kj4fgi=[email protected]> wrote:
Ho-Ro I have no idea, I am new to linux, I am not a member of dialout, I don't even know what it is
Thank you for such a quick response

Eddie kj4fgi

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 2:19 AM Ho-Ro <linuxaudio@...> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 08:14 AM, Ed Vignati wrote:
Permission denied: '/dev/ttyACM0'

Did you install the udev rule? Are you member of the Group "dialout"?


Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 

Thanks Erik

I assume that leveloffset harmonic is accessible from the console commands?

73
Jeff G8HUL

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek
Sent: 18 January 2023 09:19
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Subject: Re: [tinysa] "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

There is already a default value set to minimize the step when transitioning to harmonic mode but due to manufacturing tolerances this step is not equal for all tinySA Ultra.
The uncertainty is expected to be below +/- 5dB If you have done a normal level calibration and you have a calibrated or known source above 5.34 GHz you can manually do the calibration by measuring the know source and changing the value of leveloffset harmonic until the measured value is equal to the known output power of the source.

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Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 

There is already a default value set to minimize the step when transitioning to harmonic mode but due to manufacturing tolerances this step is not equal for all tinySA Ultra.
The uncertainty is expected to be below +/- 5dB
If you have done a normal level calibration and you have a calibrated or known source above 5.34 GHz you can manually do the calibration by measuring the know source and changing the value of?
leveloffset harmonic
until the measured value is equal to the known output power of the source.

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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 

Hi Erik

On a similar theme; I do not have a 5,4GHz source, so is there a way of manually entering a cal value so as to smooth out the step at 5.4GHz?
I realise that the calibration would not be accurate, but I suspect that it would be closer than with the step, particularly around the transition point.

73
Jeff g8HUL

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek
Sent: 18 January 2023 06:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

Forgot to mention this wiki entry that explains how calibration above 5.34GHz is done:
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For more info on the tinySA go to


Re: Linux Mint USB #tinysa

 

Ho-Ro I have no idea, I am new to linux, I am not a member of dialout, I don't even know what it is
Thank you for such a quick response

Eddie kj4fgi

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 2:19 AM Ho-Ro <linuxaudio@...> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 08:14 AM, Ed Vignati wrote:
Permission denied: '/dev/ttyACM0'

Did you install the udev rule? Are you member of the Group "dialout"?


Re: Linux Mint USB #tinysa

 

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 08:14 AM, Ed Vignati wrote:
Permission denied: '/dev/ttyACM0'

Did you install the udev rule? Are you member of the Group "dialout"?


Re: Linux Mint USB #tinysa

 

Thanks Jim, I did that, the program opens but won't connect to the TinySA.

I get this in the terminal window

2023-01-18 02:08:23,923 - TinySASaver.TinySASaver - ERROR - Tried to open /dev/ttyACM0 and failed: [Errno 13] could not open port /dev/ttyACM0: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/dev/ttyACM0'

For some reason in the TinySA program the USB port is /dev/ttyACM0 but there is no communication with the unit and I did rescan and I get /dev/ttyACM0 again no communication when I press Connect.

I have the TinySA Ultra on the way from RL Electronics and would like for that to work.

Thanks Ed kj4fgi


On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 12:30 AM Jim Allyn - N7JA <jim@...> wrote:
I am able to use both my tinySA and my tinySA Ultra with Linux Mint 20.3 Cinnamon and tinySA-saver 0.2.2.? Are you using the latest version of tinySA-saver from github?



I have heard some have had problems connecting with USB3, but USB2 works OK.? If you have problems with one, you might try the other.? Try hitting the rescan button if saver doesn't see your tinySA.

I hadn't used tinySA-saver in some time and just installed the latest version recently when I got the Ultra.? I used

git clone

in a terminal to download, then used cd to switch to the newly created folder and followed the directions for Ubuntu in the README.MD file, except that I just used python3 where the instructions specified python3.7 since Mint 20.3 is using python 3.8.10 and will use that automatically when given the command python3.? Python3 and pip were already installed, so I ignored that part of the instructions to install those.


Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 
Edited

Forgot to mention this wiki entry that explains how calibration above 5.34GHz is done:?
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


Re: My tinySA Ultra Signal level Critical #ultra

 

Simplest is not to enable the LNA and everything will be correct
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 

Did you input a 5.34GHz signal between -50 and -10dBm when calibrating above 5.34GHz?
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"CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error #bug_report

 

I just purchased a tinySA from one of the vendors listed at tinysa.org. When running the "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz", the test throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error.
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"CALIBRATE 100kHz to 5.34GHz" passes.
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Did Config/Clear Config/Config/calibration several times using both provided leads, resulting in same error when calibrating above 5.34GHz.
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Version: tinySA4_v1.4-40-g2f63e1c
Build Time: Jan 13 2023 - 17:56:59
HW Version: V0.4.5.1 (167)
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Any ideas on how to proceed prior to returning it to the vendor?


Re: My tinySA Ultra Signal level Critical #ultra

 

If I temporarily disable LNA, will all my measurements still be correct?


Re: Harmonic measurement. Question for Eric

 

Sure that would be great.

Thanks


Re: File /TinySA Ultra Menu-Tree Chart - v1.4-40 - Updated January 16, 2023.vsdx uploaded #file-notice

 

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Great job, David! That's going to be very helpful. Thank you for all the work that went into it.

On 1/17/2023 12:51 PM, Group Notification wrote:

The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: David Massey <wd4owa@...>

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This is the Microsoft Visio Pro 2019 file that the PDF file with the same name was created from and is posted here for anyone to use and modify as you see fit.