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Re: question about cable shipped with TinySA Ultra
Question for those who own both a TinySA and the Ultra version: Are the cables physically different between the two models?? Are the Ultra cables any different in length or diameter compared to the original TinySA? On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 11:09 AM John Cunliffe W7ZQ <n2nep@...> wrote: The delivered cables failed after about 1 week. The connector / cable interface at the shield came lose. I have since replaced them on both units with commercial RG223 cables of about the same length. |
George Dukish
Dave, Thank you for the 'very' informative link on the subject. I have been looking for a link on fully understanding the subject of Smith Chart use. Again, thank you with a "Happy New Year" to you and yours! Geo. On Friday, January 20, 2023, 02:47:11 PM CST, W0LEV <davearea51a@...> wrote: If you might wish to learn by doing, here is an excellent application.? It's freeware at: ???? And an excellent tutorial at: ???? Dave - W?LEV On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:57 PM Paul via <w8aef=[email protected]> wrote:
-- Dave - W?LEV --
George Dukish |
If you might wish to learn by doing, here is an excellent application.? It's freeware at: ???? And an excellent tutorial at: ???? Dave - W?LEV On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:57 PM Paul via <w8aef=[email protected]> wrote:
-- Dave - W?LEV |
Paul
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNot in /g/tinysa/files ? Where are they located? ? Paul, W8AEF ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of W0LEV
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tinysa] Antenna Replacement? #tinysa #ultra ? There are also several good, simple to highly technical, tutorials on the Smith Chart in the archives on this group.? They should be there as I've placed a few there.? ? Dave - W?LEV ? On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:07 AM allen KC2KLC <groups.io_user@...> wrote:
Dave - W?LEV |
There are also several good, simple to highly technical, tutorials on the Smith Chart in the archives on this group.? They should be there as I've placed a few there.? Dave - W?LEV -- Dave - W?LEV |
Re: Stereo Separation Alignment FM Radio - Is this possible with TinySA?
The SA can be used to view the stereo sidebands from an FM broadcaster over the air.? How this relates to alignment of a receiver separation is beyond me. There are specialized instruments that generate the stereo signal.? I'd check ebay for something inexpensive from China. Dave - W?LEV ? Dave - W?LEV On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:07 AM Roy - KI0ER via <ki0er=[email protected]> wrote:
-- Dave - W?LEV |
Re: #specifications #ultra No tracking generator?
#specifications
#ultra
Indeed, see spec in wiki
-- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
Stereo Separation Alignment FM Radio - Is this possible with TinySA?
I understand that there are no plans for the signal generator in the TinySA (I have the Ultra version) to gain the functionality of modulating the carrier with an FM stereo composite signal. Is there another method for aligning a FM radio's stereo separation using the TinySA without any other specialized equipment (except perhaps a scope)? If yes, what would the steps be to do that? Thanks! Roy |
#specifications #ultra No tracking generator?
#specifications
#ultra
I noticed that generator and SA Ultra use same connector. There is no tracking generator then.
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Re: Signal level too low
#ultra
Removed it. 600mVpp vs 130mVpp before (10MHz@-7dB coming from tinySA).
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Re: Signal level too low
#ultra
A first test will be to remove the switch and check if the signal level at the input jumps up to the level without any load.
This will prove the ESD protection diode is not causing the problem -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
Re: Signal level too low
#ultra
OK, got this:?
I hope I'm able to replace it and this is the source of the problem. |
Re: Signal level too low
#ultra
Yes. Its the input switch
See the FAQ?? Scroll down to "tinySA ULTRA questions" -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
Re: Signal level too low
#ultra
You are almost correct
The switch is for the LNA but the signal path is bidirectional so if the switch is bad (e.g. creates 10dB loss) you will see this loss also when doing output -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
USB serial interface always returns live data for trace.calc=aver4 or quasi?
I'm playing around with the USB serial interface to simplify some pre-compliance tests. However, I can only get the live data out of the TinySA when the trace CALC is set to aver4 or quasi. The following commands in this order return all the same live values but none the aver4 or quasi:
- "scan 1000000 350000000 290 3" (second column)
- "data 0"
- "data 1"
- "data 2"
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I would expect to see the following values (all with level correction):
- "data 0": "live or last? trace" when you do any of the CALC actions. If no calculation is active "data 0" returns all zero's
- "data 1": stored trace of the currently active trace
- "data 2": calculated values like average4 or quasi-peak. If no CALC was set, this would be the raw=unprocessed values.
Is that correct?
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Just some more questions/remarks:
2) command "scan 1000000 2000000 290 3" returns '1000000?8.633344e+01 0.000000000 ' per line. The first value is the frequency, the second the "measured value" but what's the third column?
3) when setting trace.calc=aver4/quasi and then?immediately?scan, are the values already averaged? do the commands block until the scan completes?
4) scan always returns values with level correction, right?
5) "clearconfig 1234" also erases level correction?
6) Is there a command to reset to factory defaults (but keeping level correction) so when setting up a new measurement, I can start from a known configuration? or is it only possible with a manually setup preset?
7) trace with dBuV returns b'1: dB\x1dV 100.000000000 10.000000000 \r\n' \x1d is neither "u" nor "¦Ì"?
Version: tinySA v0.3, tinySA_v1.4-33-ga8bffcf ? |
Re: Signal level too low
#ultra
I think (I may be wrong, as a beginner) that the switch is for IN/OUT. If that is the case, I can replicate the 10dB error by doing the reverse: generate a signal with the Ultra and read it on tinySA. At [email protected],?tinySA reads -27dBm. Using the CAL output @10MHz I see -34dBm on tinySA.
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Re: "CALIBRATE above 5.34GHz" throws a "Signal level too low or not on frequency" error
#bug_report
Good morning,
The 35db gain is needed when using the calibrator output of the TinySA as the reverence clock. The calibrator output is around -36dbm and needs to be boosted to a level acceptable for the clock input of the PLL if used that way. Both of my TinySA ultra cal outputs are accurate enough to produce a 5.34Ghz signal that is less than 500hz of frequency. That was the gist of the test to find out if the Tiny can be used instead of a GPS. I wanted to give those that do not have a GPS a solution to generate the required signal. I used a MAR-6 followed by a MAV11 with a 75 ohm pot at the output for level adjustment, Its just 10Mhz, close to DC so it is not that critical and the IC can easy handle the slight mismatch. Of course any combination of MMIC or transistors can be use to amplify the signal. Btw, I installed a switch in my PLL case so it can be switched between internal and external clock. The PLL is accurate over all but there are some division ratios it has problems with and the output frequency is off. I have not experimented how the choice of the clock frequency influences this but, for 5.34Ghz with a 10Mhz GPS clock is is spot on showing 0hz deviation on my HP microwave counter.? John |