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Re: TinySA persistence

 

Yes, there is a Max Hold. ?It is under Trace>CalcOff>MaxHold

There is also the ability to “draw” limit lines for a test. ?Example: ?The limit lines shown on Self Test.

Larry


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Two things:

-The $80/month estimate is based on a group with the membership the size of this group. ?A smaller group would pay less.

-groups.io has no relationship with Google. ?You might be thinking of Google Groups.

Larry


Re: TinySA persistence

 

Bingo!? That works.? Thanks?


Re: TinySA persistence

 

DC Decouple the SA from the prescribed test point and assure the level of injected signal is well below the max of the SA input.? That will trace the BPF shape as the injected signal is swept through the BPF.? I don't have one, yet, but if it has a max hold, that would be appropriate as you sweep the injected signal.

The term "persistence" wrt a spectrum analyzer goes??? W A Y??? back to the "original" HP141 with its "variable persistence".? Yes, I used one many times.....

Dave - W?LEV


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 9:07 PM <jsbowman6@...> wrote:
I'm trying to adjust 4 inductors in a Kenwood ts 440.? The step requires a certain shape of waveform.? How do you make the tiny draw a wave shape??



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And the $80 / month = $960 / year is a huge discouragement for any new groups!
Anything and everything these days to make a buck on the part of Google.

Dave - W?LEV


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:53 PM David J Taylor via <david-taylor=[email protected]> wrote:
On 05/12/2022 17:43, Mike C. wrote:
> David,
>
> A little more detail, if you please, 'why aren't you in favor'? Please explain.
>
> Mike C. Sand Mtn GA


Mike,

It's as Gary says:? "As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra remain basically
the same I see no need to artificially separate the discussions about the two.".

Splitting discussions can make things more difficult to find - I think we see
that - at least to a degree - in the multiple "nanoVNA" groups.? Perhaps the
concept of "spectrum analyser" is more familiar to folk with modern equipment
already incorporating spectra and waterfalls.? Erik's videos help a lot, too.

The cost doesn't justify the gain.

Cheers,
David
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TinySA persistence

 

I'm trying to adjust 4 inductors in a Kenwood ts 440.? The step requires a certain shape of waveform.? How do you make the tiny draw a wave shape??


Re: My Ultra just has arrived!

 

Mine arrived from R&L on Friday. The display seems to be in perfect alignment. Haven't done much with the Ultra yet, but I'm looking forward to running it through its paces.


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On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:12 AM, Larry McElhiney wrote:
I believe that the focus will probably be to meld the code into a single FW so that it will work appropriately on both models. ?This seems the direction from the Wiki descriptions.
Is already done.
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


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I believe that the focus will probably be to meld the code into a single FW so that it will work appropriately on both models. ?This seems the direction from the Wiki descriptions.

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Virtually ANY addition to the Subject line is fraught with potential errors. ?groups.io allows one to interact using many platforms, email and webpage and several different message viewing and responding methods (Digest, individual, etc.). ?Many people change the Subject line to meet their own needs. ?Unfortunately, this results in a NEW thread being created, so message threading forks to another branch. ?If some folks add a word like Ultra in the Subject line as an identifier and not everyone follows that style, you end up as we are now.

Some thoughts left to simmer…

Take care,

Larry
AC9OX?


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On 05/12/2022 17:43, Mike C. wrote:
David,
A little more detail, if you please, 'why aren't you in favor'? Please explain.
Mike C. Sand Mtn GA

Mike,

It's as Gary says: "As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra remain basically the same I see no need to artificially separate the discussions about the two.".

Splitting discussions can make things more difficult to find - I think we see that - at least to a degree - in the multiple "nanoVNA" groups. Perhaps the concept of "spectrum analyser" is more familiar to folk with modern equipment already incorporating spectra and waterfalls. Erik's videos help a lot, too.

The cost doesn't justify the gain.

Cheers,
David
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Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


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Once you understand the workings of a vector network analyzer, going from one model to another, even the "professinal" models ($$$$), this is no longer an issue.? Spend the time to learn the VNA, and you won't have that problem.?

Dave - W?LEV


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:40 PM Gary - W6GVS <gvsmith5@...> wrote:
I would like to add a thought to this discussion.? I'm also own a NanoVNA-F.? I've owned it for two or three years.? I also joined the nanovna users and nanovna-f reflectors.? The nanovna users group is primarily for the H-series models with some discussion of some of the other iterations not usually including the -F model.? I've read all of the traffic on the two reflectors and I have a difficult time separating what works on one model and not on the other, etc.? I keep the two groups in separate mailboxes in my e-mail client.? But I still get thoroughly confused by separate discussions of which firmware and hardware and adjunct software works with which model.? I have to go into each mailbox to find a answer to any questions I have.? As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra remain basically the same I see no need to artificially separate the discussions about the two.

73,
Gary - W6GVS

At 10:08 PM 12/4/2022, you wrote:

Hey Guys,

Since the tinySA and Ultra are two very different animals, has anyone kicked the can down the road to see if there is any interest in a separate "Ultra" group? (just thinking, don't shoot the messenger)

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA



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Why not just put "Ultra" somewhere in the subject line, so in an instant everyone will know which device the email is about? If it's not there, then everyone knows you are referring to the original. Easy-Peezy!

David AD4TJ

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 12:44:11 PM EST, Mike C. <mg@...> wrote:


David,

A little more detail, if you please, 'why aren't you in favor'? Please explain.

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA


On 12/5/2022 3:37 AM, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:

On 05/12/2022 04:44, Larry McElhiney via groups.io wrote:
Currently new groups.io groups are prohibitively expense once they go past to Free (100 member) level.

This TinySA group would cost around $80/month if new.

- Is this group grandfathered in - "Legacy Enabled"?
- If so, can you create sub-groups free of charge?
- Even if, would the group members wish that?
?? I would not be in favour.

Just pondering as I've had this issue in another group...

Cheers,
David


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I would like to add a thought to this discussion.? I'm also own a NanoVNA-F.? I've owned it for two or three years.? I also joined the nanovna users and nanovna-f group.io reflectors.? The nanovna users group is primarily for the H-series models with some discussion of some of the other iterations not usually including the -F model.? I've read all of the traffic on the two reflectors and I have a difficult time separating what works on one model and not on the other, etc.? I keep the two groups in separate mailboxes in my e-mail client.? But I still get thoroughly confused by separate discussions of which firmware and hardware and adjunct software works with which model.? I have to go into each mailbox to find a answer to any questions I have.? As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra remain basically the same I see no need to artificially separate the discussions about the two.

73,
Gary - W6GVS

At 10:08 PM 12/4/2022, you wrote:

Hey Guys,

Since the tinySA and Ultra are two very different animals, has anyone kicked the can down the road to see if there is any interest in a separate "Ultra" group? (just thinking, don't shoot the messenger)

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
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Ditto.

On 12/5/2022 11:47 AM, N2MS wrote:

I'd rather keep it the way it is. Like me a good number of members have the tinysa and intend to get the ultra in the future.
We can read the messages in one group to see updates and information.

Mike N2MS

On 12/05/2022 4:35 AM Erik Kaashoek <erik@...> wrote:


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:37 AM, David J Taylor wrote:

- If so, can you create sub-groups free of charge?
Its not possible to create sub groups free of charge






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Hey Bill,

Yeah, works for me, but can we..... (just kidding)

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA

On 12/5/2022 10:00 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

In some groups they use the # sign in the subject to indicate which devices/versions the message is for. #ultra for example. More than a few list members don't understand or use those just as some would post to the wrong group or thread even if there is a different group. We will have to just muddle a long the best we can.

73,

Bill KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 12/5/22 04:40, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:
On 05/12/2022 09:35, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
Its not possible to create sub groups free of charge

That settles that discussion, then!

David






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David,

A little more detail, if you please, 'why aren't you in favor'? Please explain.

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA


On 12/5/2022 3:37 AM, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:

On 05/12/2022 04:44, Larry McElhiney via groups.io wrote:
Currently new groups.io groups are prohibitively expense once they go past to Free (100 member) level.

This TinySA group would cost around $80/month if new.

- Is this group grandfathered in - "Legacy Enabled"?
- If so, can you create sub-groups free of charge?
- Even if, would the group members wish that?
?? I would not be in favour.

Just pondering as I've had this issue in another group...

Cheers,
David


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I think I missed the 'translation'. ".. once they go past to Free..." Is it not the other way around? Do I understand there is a "fee" to have a 'user-group'?

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA

On 12/4/2022 11:44 PM, Larry McElhiney via groups.io wrote:

Currently new groups.io groups are prohibitively expense once they go past to Free (100 member) level.

This TinySA group would cost around $80/month if new.


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You're saying; "deja vous all over again"?? n'est-ce pas ??

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA


On 12/4/2022 10:57 PM, Clyde Lambert wrote:

Here we go again.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2022, 7:08 PM Mike C. <mg@...> wrote:

Hey Guys,

Since the tinySA and Ultra are two very different animals, has anyone kicked the can down the road to see if there is any interest in a separate "Ultra" group? (just thinking, don't shoot the messenger)

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA


Locked Re: New Group !!!

 

I'd rather keep it the way it is. Like me a good number of members have the tinysa and intend to get the ultra in the future.
We can read the messages in one group to see updates and information.

Mike N2MS

On 12/05/2022 4:35 AM Erik Kaashoek <erik@...> wrote:


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:37 AM, David J Taylor wrote:

- If so, can you create sub-groups free of charge?
Its not possible to create sub groups free of charge


#Ultra Which software to download for Win7Pro? #ultra

Ray, W4BYG
 

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I am expecting my "Ultra" to be delivered today from R&L electronics. It was ordered mid November.

I still run Win7pro on my desktop PC and wonder which software should I download for the Ultra?

Also, I have a Samsung 10" Tablet. Is there yet any software available for it to operate the Ultra?
Ray, W4BYG

  

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