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Calibration Fail: Test 7 signal level fail

 

Hello, I am a Japanese user who is grateful for this small marvelous spectrum analyzer. I have an issue on my tinySA Ultra out of box. Self-test has passed successfully, but in the next step I got an error in "CALIBRATE 100Khz to 5.34GHz" as the picture below:?



The SMA cable is connected well since before this error the self-test has passed successfully:



I bought this tinySA from SeeSii in Amazon, so I believe this is not a clone.



Could you please advise how to solve this issue?
Thanks for your kind support in advance.


Re: Do I have a Clone?

 

Roger that Erik..I also haven't seen actual proof of clones of the Ultra (yet) so for now people can take for granted that their "Ultra" is legit.
Always preferred to use official sales??to have peace of mind, as it goes without saying that popular items often will be cloned, like we have seen with VNAs and the org TinySA - at lower prices that usually go hand in hand with inferior components/performance.


Re: Setting time is difficult

 

Yes, looks like time not changed immediately, but at next display touch enough, don't need to switch off and on.

?(- or you can check the time, when You touch the display where the date/time is visible.)


Istvan


Re: Do I have a Clone?

 

My mistake, assumed it was a basic. no clone of the ultra as far as we know.
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Re: Do I have a Clone?

 

Thanks, Eric.? I fully understand.

Dave - W?LEV


On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 9:02?AM Erik Kaashoek <erik@...> wrote:
Dave,
Sorry, I will not share this info, not even in private communication.
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Dave - W?LEV



Re: Do I have a Clone?

 

So there are clones of the Ultra variant yet, as I was not familiar that there are identified clones of the Ultra yet, and the prices seem to center around the same ballpark, indicating more or less the same Hugen-backland.
Any indication of what differs componentwise.?
I recall mentioned about screen upgrading from TFT to IPS on the original product-line but that was months back, and the Zeenko store still lists them as TFT,


Re: Hi Z probe mounting ideas

 

A good idea is to place a luminous white LED on the front of the probe, thus, in addition to indicating that it is powered, it illuminates the area where it is applied.


Re: RF probe ground wire

 

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 05:37 AM, Ma?l H?rz wrote:
But it's not clearly visible what kind of wire is used to make the
ground connection. It looks solid core, yet still reasonably flexible.
Or is it some tiny braided wire with transparent insulation?
It's a thin solid insulated wire, does not matter that much as the "loop" created by the wire and the sensing tip will pick up unwanted signals anyway
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RF probe ground wire

 

Hi,

In this video there is a
ground wire soldered to the TinySA PCB and one to the RF probe ground.

But it's not clearly visible what kind of wire is used to make the
ground connection. It looks solid core, yet still reasonably flexible.
Or is it some tiny braided wire with transparent insulation?

Best regards,
Ma?l H?rz


Re: Hi Z probe mounting ideas

 

Nice build!

I seem to remember you posted this picture in another thread as well, but I cannot find it anymore, so maybe it was only this one.

Is there also a view that shows the front, where the probe tip comes out?

Also you said it is a copper tube, but it looks like the end cap is plastic, and the copper tube itself is either painted or covered in something (is that really a heat shrink tube of such a large size)? Is there a higher res picture of this?


Re: What is the built-in attenuator's continuous power rating? #specifications

 

Thank you and thank you!


Re: What is the built-in attenuator's continuous power rating? #specifications

 

As long as you stay at 30dB attenuation and an input level below the maximum ratings of the PE4312 (both basic and ultra) you are safe.
Make sure you do NOT enable the LNA with +10dBm input

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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


What is the built-in attenuator's continuous power rating? #specifications

 

According to the wiki's FAQ, the TinySA BASIC's built-in attenuator is "compatible" with PE4312C-Z. While I found no mention about TinySA ULTRA's built-in attenuator, I read the markings? "4312" on the chip U28 of its board.

According to its datasheet (Fig. 4), the PE4312 is safe to operate with a continuous input power up to +11dBm (1MHz - 4GHz). If the energy is restricted to 50MHz-4GHz it gets even more forgiving: +24dBm.

Finally, my question is: would it be safe to continually input on the TinySA Ultra +10dBm (>>50Mhz) with the built-in attenuator manually set to 31dB? What is the built-in attenuator's continuous power rating?

PS.: I don't intend to operate like that. I just want to know if I will burn my beloved new TinySA Ultra if one day I forget to connect external attenuation. Thanks for the awesomeness.


Re: Does the built-in internal attenuator also attenuate LO leakage?

 

Thank you very much!


Re: Do I have a Clone?

 

Dave,
Sorry, I will not share this info, not even in private communication.
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


Re: Does the built-in internal attenuator also attenuate LO leakage?

 

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 01:45 AM, <renan.pelicia.ismart@...> wrote:
Does that leakage/injection also get attenuated when the "built-in internal attenuator" of the TinySA is activated,
Yes,?
Example: When set to zero span at 1GHz and internal attenuation set to 0dB there is a -20dBm output of the LO at 1.978GHz. Setting the internal attenuation to 30dB changes the output level to -50dBm
?
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Does the built-in internal attenuator also attenuate LO leakage?

 

According to its wiki, when the TinySA Ultra is in ultra mode, the local oscillator (LO) will leak more into the RF input. In that mode, the TinySA can inject up to -10dBm into the circuit it is measuring.

Does that leakage/injection also get attenuated when the "built-in internal attenuator" of the TinySA is activated, or does it bypass that built-in internal attenuator?

For example, if the built-in internal attenuator is manually set to 31dB, does it mean that the leakage/injection is at most -41dBm?

Thank you!


Locked Re: TinySA as RF generator #feature_request

 

The Ultra can do AM modulation with much more interpolation points (up to 128 depending on the modulation frequency) where the Basic uses at most 8 points interpolation
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Re: New FW release: USB commands added: menu, text and remark

 

About the (future) wait command, although I don't find it very useful to use it from USB since programs can use their own wait instructions, I find it very useful in a *.CMD program running from SD_card without computer support ,a wait [n] command that causes the #ultra to wait [n] seconds before reading or executing the next command from the *.CMD file, allowing during this time the #ultra to continue performing its actions, such as making several scans to do CALC maxhold, average..... After this [n] time has elapsed, the following commands in the *.CMD file will be allowed to continue executing.

Toni
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Locked Re: TinySA as RF generator #feature_request

 

Looked at the modulation signal on the SA Ultra on my portable scope.






A lot cleaner than the Ultra's little brother