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Hi Dan,

That's why I added the provision that it might be harder these days. Some of us have been around a

fairly long time, so you might need a time machine. :-) But I still think it's important to remember that

you only need to find one good job at a time and that doing what is popular doesn't always lead to

the best personal outcomes.

FWIW, I was a coach / consultant after around 1995, so I didn't need to find a job - just a gig. I only

needed to find places that _wanted_ to use those practices and needed help doing it. I know a

number of others here found their work happiness the same way. :-)

Charlie

Charlie

On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 12:00?PM Dan Torres <danstorre@...> wrote:

Interesting thank you so much Charlie!,

May I ask how you ended up these teams? I'd love to be part in a XP even XPish team.

P.D. Jon Reid invited me to this group and I'm very glad and honour to be here actually.

Regards,

El lun, 10 jul 2023 a las 14:19, Charlie Poole (<charliepoole@...>) escribió:

Hi Dan,

None of us can tell you what you _should_ do, but we can tell you what has worked for us. :-)

For me, I've been happiest doing work that I like, in the way that I like. That ended up being TDD

in an XP or XP-ish environment. Not everyone wanted that and many who said they did ended up

only wanting to use the terminology but not truly implementing it.

My theory was always that I only needed one job at a time and something always turned up. Someone

else will have to say whether times have changed too much for that approach, but I'm pretty sure that

doing what you want to do is still better than not doing it. :-)

Charlie

On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 11:07?AM Dan Torres <danstorre@...> wrote:

Hello!

I'm Dan Torres, an iOS developer very interested in TDD. I've used it for the last 3 years and it has changed my life for the better.

One of my problems is that the iOS industry is not interested in TDD, and I'm wondering if I should continue learning and writing?more about TDD or continue the industry and write about iOS frameworks only.

It's interesting because I really thought that reaching this point (where I can do?TDD and even teach it) I'd find a functional team that follows these things, but I think that's not possible anymore.

Should I even change my tech stack? I would happily do so If I'm able to find a team that practices TDD, that would be the dream.

Regards,?

Dan Torres

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