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Those i.e.s should have been e.g.s and by "customer doesn't expect an error" I meant customer expects not to see an error... That's what I get for writing emails at the bar

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Adam Sroka wrote:

If a customer expects an error (i.e. I put in the wrong number, oops) test for it. If a customer doesn't expect an error (i.e. WTF does "500 server error" mean, and how do I get this job done?) test for it. Anything else, YAGNI,?until you actually see it fail in exploratory testing, then test for it.?

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Ron Jeffries wrote:

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Eb,

On Oct 15, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Eb <amaeze@...> wrote:

I'm curious to know thoughts on writing tests that specify the behavior of a method when its inputs are incorrect. ?Is this a common practice. ?How about parameter validation in this case? ?Having some healthy debate on it and wanted to get other insight.

The context for this in a class/methods that are used within an internal application - this is not an API that will be publicly exposed to external consumers.

Generally speaking, I do not check arguments for correctness. If I am building the entire app via TDD, the code that calls the method is already tested, and therefore in fact calls with correct arguments.

If the method in question is potentially harmful, then I will be more inclined to cause it to protect itself, and I would generally test that.

This approach generally works for me. My experience is that "defensive" code generally makes the program much larger, increases its complexity, and since the defensive code is both arcane and hard to test, it usually embodies a disproportionate number of defects.?

So I focus on writing correct code, not code that lives in fear of its neighbors.

Ron Jeffries

I have two cats, and a big house full of cat stuff.?

The cats fight and divide up the house, messing up their own lives.?

Nice work cats.?

Meow.