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Re: Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

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Hi Rémi Rampin,

Thank you for jumping into this thread.

I am not a developer, but am a Mac user and have picked up linux (broadly speaking) as a hobby. I'd be happy to help out however I can to prepare a Mac installer for v 1.4.1. For example, if you shared any notes about the steps you have followed in the past attempts, maybe I could try making my own attempt. This is admittedly a naive suggestion on my part - it sounds difficult actually - but at least I have enought motivation and a Mac to apply toward the challenge.

Concerning highlighting - I thought of an example where I've seen overlapping highlighting work really well. It is in the reference manager Sci Wheel. That online app has a highlighting and annotation feature where multiple colors can be used and they generally have never blocked out the text from getting too dark. I wonder if we can copy some tactic from them.

Taguette is an awesome tool and I do hope we can find a way to foster its development.?

Kind regards,
Nick



Nicolas A. Balcom Raleigh, M.A.
Doctoral Researcher (V?it?skirjatutkija
) - Futures Studies
Research Area: Futures Literacy & Climate Change Innovation
UNESCO Co-Chair on Learning for Transformation and Planetary Futures
Finland Futures Research Centre - Turku School of Economics - University of Turku


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Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 9:29:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [taguette] Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?
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2025-03-03 10:49 UTC-05, Nicolas Balcom Raleigh via <nabara=[email protected]>:

I am a superfan of Taguette. After using Dedoose and Envivo for my qualitative coding, and hearing horror stories about ATLAS.ti,? I believe Taguette is best-in-class for producing archive-ready analysed datasets. It is also great that it is FOSS! I really do hope development is continuing and would be happy to pitch in from a user perspective (I have low programming/coding skills).

Does anyone have a sense for when the MacOS installer for v1.4.1 will come out?? I just tried building it from a clone of the repository using CLI and running Poetry, but I got a messages saying Poetry needed symlinks in the environment. I just don't have time to dive deep into what that is all about. A drag-and-drop MacOS install would be awesome.


Hi Nick and everyone,

Building the MacOS installer has always been a problem. I don't have a Mac machine and Apple keeps changing their requirements for building/signing apps, which has caused a lot of issues in the past where our users weren't able to start the application. I am planning to give this another try, getting access to a Mac VM and setting up the whole build process, but I keep running into code signing issues. Even if I do everything correctly, users still run into the "application cannot be verified" which trip a lot of them (need to right-click > open > accept the warning).

The best case scenario would be to find somebody more experience with the Apple ecosystem to help with this aspect of releasing Taguette. Nevertheless I hope to get another installer built in the near future. Installing via Docker or Pip are other options but they are definitely not as friendly to non-developers.


About the colors for tags, the main issue is that highlights can have multiple colors. There have been multiple attempts at bringing this to life, but this fact keeps tripping us. We have attempted things like a vertical gradient (but it quickly becomes unreadable) or a sidebar (but it is difficult to program reliably and still not very usable with short highlights). Another issues is highlights that overlap, partially or totally. We are open to suggestions from the community.


The development of Taguette has also been slowed down since I no longer have much free time to dedicate to it. I apologize about that.

Best regards
--
Rémi Rampin
The developer


Re: Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

2025-03-03 10:49 UTC-05, Nicolas Balcom Raleigh via <nabara=[email protected]>:

I am a superfan of Taguette. After using Dedoose and Envivo for my qualitative coding, and hearing horror stories about ATLAS.ti,? I believe Taguette is best-in-class for producing archive-ready analysed datasets. It is also great that it is FOSS! I really do hope development is continuing and would be happy to pitch in from a user perspective (I have low programming/coding skills).

Does anyone have a sense for when the MacOS installer for v1.4.1 will come out?? I just tried building it from a clone of the repository using CLI and running Poetry, but I got a messages saying Poetry needed symlinks in the environment. I just don't have time to dive deep into what that is all about. A drag-and-drop MacOS install would be awesome.


Hi Nick and everyone,

Building the MacOS installer has always been a problem. I don't have a Mac machine and Apple keeps changing their requirements for building/signing apps, which has caused a lot of issues in the past where our users weren't able to start the application. I am planning to give this another try, getting access to a Mac VM and setting up the whole build process, but I keep running into code signing issues. Even if I do everything correctly, users still run into the "application cannot be verified" which trip a lot of them (need to right-click > open > accept the warning).

The best case scenario would be to find somebody more experience with the Apple ecosystem to help with this aspect of releasing Taguette. Nevertheless I hope to get another installer built in the near future. Installing via Docker or Pip are other options but they are definitely not as friendly to non-developers.


About the colors for tags, the main issue is that highlights can have multiple colors. There have been multiple attempts at bringing this to life, but this fact keeps tripping us. We have attempted things like a vertical gradient (but it quickly becomes unreadable) or a sidebar (but it is difficult to program reliably and still not very usable with short highlights). Another issues is highlights that overlap, partially or totally. We are open to suggestions from the community.


The development of Taguette has also been slowed down since I no longer have much free time to dedicate to it. I apologize about that.

Best regards
--
Rémi Rampin
The developer


Re: Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

Nick:
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I think this makes sense. Your user story overlaps with some of my own. Taguette's current data model leads to the everything-is-a-tag strategy for identifying highlights, whether tags are metadata you place to organize things or analysis-specific codes. Alternatives would be more complex and might partition extra data attached to a highlight such as in your case with a "round" attribute that is somewhat specific to your methodology or for "cases" such as participants who have multiple documents. You could theoretically have user defined properties on highlights such as these, and you could let a user decide how to choose highlight colors based on the properties of a highlight. I think you also hit on something I have noticed, which is that sometimes you want to analyze a document in one "project" but then do another "project" with the same data. Perhaps your research questions or approach is different; yet it might be good to share the exact same documents and potentially toggle on and off the visibility of highlights from other rounds/projects/etc. From what you've said, I am gathering these are the simplest and most important improvements you would value:
  • allowing clear visual distinction between overlapping highlights
  • allowing creation of overlapping highlights from a start point or end point inside an existing highlight
  • configurable color marking for highlights
Another note is that there are other ways to denote the highlight's location post-creation. For example, there could be a footnote inserted to the text that connects to an ordered list of highlights on a sidebar or a graphic similar to how does it.
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Nicholas


Re: Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

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Hi Nicholas,

These are helpful specifying questions. I hadn't given it much thought! I think the top issue is being to visually see overlapping highlights.

Maybe this use story will help.

Recently, I was iteratively changing my coding approach to find insights in my research material.

Each round, I used a different set of codes which were more focused on a specific kind of theme.

To make it work, I would complete a round using a coding approach, decide what I'd read the data for next, and then add unhighlighted copy of the same file to code a different way.

I don't know if I will always iteratively code, but this might match other users' experiences.?(Any others want to share?)

What if a user could change the highlight color for each iteration of their coding approach? The user would need to be able to determine what this means for them?

Thinking through what that might be like, a user might use the highligh colors in some of these ways:

blue is 1st round, yellow is 2nd round ...

OR blue is when I coded in reference to my first RQ, Yellow for my second RQ, etc.,

OR blue is when I coded for examples of innovation, Yellow?for my respondants emotions and feeling, etc.

Thank you for being so responsive and receptive to this dialogue!

Kind regards,

Nick
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Nicolas A. Balcom Raleigh, M.A.
Doctoral Researcher (V?it?skirjatutkija
) - Futures Studies
Research Area: Futures Literacy & Climate Change Innovation
UNESCO Co-Chair on Learning for Transformation and Planetary Futures
Finland Futures Research Centre - Turku School of Economics - University of Turku


From: njg4ne via groups.io <njg4ne@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 8:52:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [taguette] Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?
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Nick:
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Good to know! I wonder if the feature you desire has also to do with visually seeing overlapping highlights or specifically wanting the color feature. What you describe is very much possible; there are lots of features like this I would love to build when I can find the time. A follow up question would be: what tag/code gets to decide the color for a highlight given you could have many tags on one highlight? You could mix or overlay the colors, but that could get weird with many tags. Would you want a single tag to get precedence of the color?
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Nicholas


Re: Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

Nick:
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Good to know! I wonder if the feature you desire has also to do with visually seeing overlapping highlights or specifically wanting the color feature. What you describe is very much possible; there are lots of features like this I would love to build when I can find the time. A follow up question would be: what tag/code gets to decide the color for a highlight given you could have many tags on one highlight? You could mix or overlay the colors, but that could get weird with many tags. Would you want a single tag to get precedence of the color?
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Nicholas


Re: Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

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Hi all,

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I have no coding expertise (so apologies if this email is annoying), but I do avidly use Taguette in my sociology capstone course, and love the online version. Especially for students a large online, ?free platform, is unbelievably helpful to get students going with research.

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I write to second Nick’s suggestion on color coding being a big demand (indeed, students often ask about it). That said, ?the data visualizations in the system you’ve developed (notably the nesting displays, etc) seems super-useful and helpful for teaching purposes too. Looking forward to the next version.

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Wonderful work, and thanks to all in the taguette community who work to make the platform functional,

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Sam

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Hunter College (Sociology)

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Hi Njg4ne,

Thanks for the response and suggestion to try runng the Docker version on my Mac.

I looked at your prototype demo video. Those data viewing functions your cooking will be super useful!

The one feature I wish for most is multi-color highlighting, where the highlights are transluscent, and the colors can be assigned to codes. This is because I often find myself wanting to highlight wider or narrower passages in my data.

Kind regards,

Nick

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Nicolas A. Balcom Raleigh, M.A.
Doctoral Researcher (V?it?skirjatutkija) - Futures Studies

Research Area: Futures Literacy & Climate Change Innovation
UNESCO Co-Chair on Learning for Transformation and Planetary Futures

Finland Futures Research Centre - Turku School of Economics - University of Turku


From: njg4ne via groups.io <njg4ne@...>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 7:07:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [taguette] Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

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It requires slightly more technical know-how, but the version should work on Mac and not cause you the issues you describe. I am a third-party developer and am very interested in making improvements to Taguette as a user myself, so I would like to know your feedback. I have been working on a post-highlighting analysis tool that is fully browser based, so it requires no installation. At this stage, you'll still have to highlight your data in Taguette and export it to sqlite format: |


Re: Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

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Hi Njg4ne,

Thanks for the response and suggestion to try runng the Docker version on my Mac.

I looked at your prototype demo video. Those data viewing functions your cooking will be super useful!

The one feature I wish for most is multi-color highlighting, where the highlights are transluscent, and the colors can be assigned to codes. This is because I often find myself wanting to highlight wider or narrower passages in my data.

Kind regards,

Nick


Nicolas A. Balcom Raleigh, M.A.
Doctoral Researcher (V?it?skirjatutkija
) - Futures Studies
Research Area: Futures Literacy & Climate Change Innovation
UNESCO Co-Chair on Learning for Transformation and Planetary Futures
Finland Futures Research Centre - Turku School of Economics - University of Turku


From: njg4ne via groups.io <njg4ne@...>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 7:07:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [taguette] Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?
?
It requires slightly more technical know-how, but the version should work on Mac and not cause you the issues you describe. I am a third-party developer and am very interested in making improvements to Taguette as a user myself, so I would like to know your feedback. I have been working on a post-highlighting analysis tool that is fully browser based, so it requires no installation. At this stage, you'll still have to highlight your data in Taguette and export it to sqlite format: |


Re: Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

It requires slightly more technical know-how, but the version should work on Mac and not cause you the issues you describe. I am a third-party developer and am very interested in making improvements to Taguette as a user myself, so I would like to know your feedback. I have been working on a post-highlighting analysis tool that is fully browser based, so it requires no installation. At this stage, you'll still have to highlight your data in Taguette and export it to sqlite format: |


Will the MacOS installer for v 1.4.1 be available soon?

 

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Dear Taguette users,

I am a superfan of Taguette. After using Dedoose and Envivo for my qualitative coding, and hearing horror stories about ATLAS.ti,? I believe Taguette is best-in-class for producing archive-ready analysed datasets. It is also great that it is FOSS! I really do hope development is continuing and would be happy to pitch in from a user perspective (I have low programming/coding skills).

Does anyone have a sense for when the MacOS installer for v1.4.1 will come out?? I just tried building it from a clone of the repository using CLI and running Poetry, but I got a messages saying Poetry needed symlinks in the environment. I just don't have time to dive deep into what that is all about. A drag-and-drop MacOS install would be awesome.

Kindest regards,

Nick



Nicolas A. Balcom Raleigh, M.A.
Doctoral Researcher (V?it?skirjatutkija
) - Futures Studies
Research Area: Futures Literacy & Climate Change Innovation
UNESCO Co-Chair on Learning for Transformation and Planetary Futures
Finland Futures Research Centre - Turku School of Economics - University of Turku


Re: Self-hosted adding users

 

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It would be great to be able to bulk import at least. I am going to talk to our IT people about that.? My situation is that we only want to have students from our institution have access so we don’t want to have open access for registering for the whole internet.?

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Elin

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Thanks for the speedy reply! This will work for now. If I find myself with some extra time, I may see if I can contribute a patch.


Re: Self-hosted adding users

 

Thanks for the speedy reply! This will work for now. If I find myself with some extra time, I may see if I can contribute a patch.


Re: Self-hosted adding users

 

2024-10-10 13:23?UTC-04, Edward L Platt <ed@...>:
I have the same question. I could temporarily reconfigure taguette to have open registration and restart, but I would prefer to keep registration closed and add new users manually from the admin account? Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks!

Hi,

There is no interface in Taguette to do this, but you could insert the users into the database directly. You just have to put them in the "users" table with a "login", and "email". Then users can reset their passwords via their email address.

In SQL it looks like this:

INSERT INTO users(login, created, email, disabled) VALUES('username-here', current_timestamp, 'user-email-here@...', false);

Or you should be able to use the import functions of your database system to read in a CSV file.

A tool could also be added to Taguette if this is a common requirement. I can't promise to tackle this myself soon however.

Best regards
--
Rémi Rampin
The developer


Re: Self-hosted adding users

 

I have the same question. I could temporarily reconfigure taguette to have open registration and restart, but I would prefer to keep registration closed and add new users manually from the admin account? Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks!


Re: importing pdf document with 2 columns - formatting messed up

 

Molly:

I had luck with the following process:
  • Download PDF
  • Open PDF with MS Word to convert to DOCX
  • Save As -> file.docx
  • Import DOCX to Taguette
Hope this helps.

Nicholas


importing pdf document with 2 columns - formatting messed up

 

Hi, I've just discovered Taguette and it's fantastic!
I'm sure someone has already solved this problem:?
I'm importing pdf journal articles into Taguette. They are usually formatted as two columns. After importing to Taguette, it ends up as a jumble, as the conversion tool reads across the page, so interlaces the content from 2 columns, rather than down one column then down the next column. How can I prevent this?

Thanks again, great tool!
Molly


Self-hosted adding users

 

Hi,

I have a self-hosted set up and have turned of self-registration because I don't want it open to the general public to register. Is there another way to create new users?

Thank you,

Elin Waring
Lehman College, CUNY


Re: Support to transition existing project from NVivo to Taguette?

 

Hi,?

That sounds a good use case. Could you please clarify if you need to do a data migration between the two programs (Nvivo -> Taguette), or is it just training the users to ease the transition from using Nvivo and start using Taguette? or both, maybe?


Re: Conversion error: Calibre couldn't convert that file

 

Hi, sorry for delaying thread.

After a while without search, I entered again and saw logs. Finally i found why, not related with taguette.

Simply I was running taguette with root user, so docker logs suggested to use --no-sandbox command, but it doesn't works with taguette server command.

The solution for me it was to add
user: `"1000:1000" 

to the docker-compose.yaml file and its run it again. Calibre is now generating pdfs and all stuff without no errors.

Thanks for this great project


Re: Support to transition existing project from NVivo to Taguette?

 

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Training materials would be wonderful, but I would also be interested in hiring someone to facilitate that transition and the training.

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Hi Elizabeth,

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Am I correct in understanding that you would like training material for working with Taguette?

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Sarah

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Sarah DeMott, PhD, MLS

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Faculty Librarian for Freshman Seminar
Library Liaison for Judaica, Middle East and Near East Studies
Harvard College Library

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I have some research funds that I could potential use to make the transition from NVivo to Taguette for my research team. Does anyone have recommendations on how to identify a good fit for carrying out that transition and training myself and fellow researchers? This program is not yet commonly used at my program.?

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Re: Support to transition existing project from NVivo to Taguette?

 

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Hi Elizabeth,

?

Am I correct in understanding that you would like training material for working with Taguette?

?

Sarah

?

?

Sarah DeMott, PhD, MLS

?

Faculty Librarian for Freshman Seminar
Library Liaison for Judaica, Middle East and Near East Studies
Harvard College Library

sarah_demott@...

pronouns: she, her, hers

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of elizabeth.holzer@...
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 5:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [taguette] Support to transition existing project from NVivo to Taguette?

?

I have some research funds that I could potential use to make the transition from NVivo to Taguette for my research team. Does anyone have recommendations on how to identify a good fit for carrying out that transition and training myself and fellow researchers? This program is not yet commonly used at my program.?

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