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Re: Missionary Ridge right of way

 

Thanks Warren,? I spent 19 years working for Sears. The model is to pay tribute to those years. Here is a photo of a delivery truck I did to go along with the late 60's era store.

Mark


Re: Missionary Ridge right of way

 
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On Monday, November 23, 2020, 09:43:03 PM EST, Mark McAllister <mlmcallister@...> wrote:


Warren,

It took some time to detail what I can of the route up the ridge and south toward Rossville. The line ended at station "Ridge" that was roughly above 34th St. in East Lake. The map I used is a 1941 map of Chattanooga that I added some points to tie into 2020..

Enjoy. If anyone has questions. I am glad to try and answer...

Mark


Re: Missionary Ridge right of way

 
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One more thing, the model Sears is awesome! I miss Sears. When I started at Delta every payday I went to Sears and bought more Craftsman tools to use on the job. We had a list of required tools. Sad, sad, sad.

Warren?

On Thursday, November 19, 2020, 10:23:40 PM EST, Mark McAllister <mlmcallister@...> wrote:


Well, a Sears store model wasn¡¯t what I intended to send. Here is the map that I mentioned. The angled area up the switchback is Birds Mill Rd.

Mark



On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:17 PM Mark McAllister via <mlmcallister=[email protected]> wrote:
The map below shows the car line and switch back to the right. About 1/2 way up the ridge the line crossed Shallowford Rd.? Part of the line up the ridge travels on Birds Mill Rd. to where the car line intersected with N. Crest Rd traveling south to the end-of-line station Ridge above the East Lake area roughly about where Shadowlawn Dr comes up the ridge from East Ridge, TN.




Mark McAllister, CFO-Treasurer
Southeastern Region - Nat¡¯l Model Railroad Assn.?

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Mark McAllister, President Chattanooga Modular Modelers a 501 (c)(3) non-profit charitable organization Ph. (423) 653-7487


Re: Missionary Ridge right of way

 

I would like to tell everyone how much I appreciate the outstanding Missionary Ridge information. Sadly I had to cancel my trip to Chattanooga due to a positive covid diagnosis. I can't be sure where I picked it up but I had an immediate coworker test positive. As my folks are in their late 70s and early 80s, I felt I better get tested before seeing them for Thanksgiving. And here we are. Luckily my case has been mild at least so far and I look forward to making it to my favorite rail city real soon. I really do appreciate the awesome info and hopefully I'll be able to get up on the ridge and poke around soon. I have managed to avoid all the fads. in the 70s I never had a pet rock. Never had a mullet haircut. But I guess I just couldn't pass up on the Kung-Flu fad. I hope all on this list stay well and that 2021 is a better year!

Warren D. Stephens
CofG and TA&G fan? ? ?

On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 08:15:38 PM EST, 'Warren D. Stephens' wdstephens@... [tagroute] <tagroute@...> wrote:


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A few years before he passed away, Bob Sironen showed me some of the street car right of way up in Missionary Ridge. I was tired after driving up to see Bob after a shift at the Atlanta airport where I work and was not ¡°crisp¡± enough to remember the street name. I¡¯ll be in the area soon and want to poke around and find it again. Does anyone know the streets where you can spot the right of way. I vaguely remember seeing a cannon and at one point the right of way cut across someone¡¯s yard at an angle.

Warren


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    Re: Missionary Ridge right of way

     
    Edited

    Warren,

    It took some time to detail what I can of the route up the ridge and south toward Rossville. The line ended at station "Ridge" that was roughly above 34th St. in East Lake. The map I used is a 1941 map of Chattanooga that I added some points to tie into 2020..

    Enjoy. If anyone has questions. I am glad to try and answer...

    Mark


    Re: Missionary Ridge right of way

     
    Edited

    Well, a Sears store model wasn¡¯t what I intended to send. Here is the map that I mentioned. The angled area up the switchback is Birds Mill Rd.

    Mark



    On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:17 PM Mark McAllister via <mlmcallister=[email protected]> wrote:
    The map below shows the car line and switch back to the right. About 1/2 way up the ridge the line crossed Shallowford Rd.? Part of the line up the ridge travels on Birds Mill Rd. to where the car line intersected with N. Crest Rd traveling south to the end-of-line station Ridge above the East Lake area roughly about where Shadowlawn Dr comes up the ridge from East Ridge, TN.




    Mark McAllister, CFO-Treasurer
    Southeastern Region - Nat¡¯l Model Railroad Assn.?

    --
    Mark McAllister, President Chattanooga Modular Modelers a 501 (c)(3) non-profit charitable organization Ph. (423) 653-7487


    Re: Missionary Ridge right of way

     
    Edited

    The map below shows the car line and switch back to the right. About 1/2 way up the ridge the line crossed Shallowford Rd. ?Part of the line up the ridge travels on Birds Mill Rd. to where the car line intersected with N. Crest Rd traveling south to the end-of-line station Ridge above the East Lake area roughly about where Shadowlawn Dr comes up the ridge from East Ridge, TN.




    Mark McAllister, CFO-Treasurer
    Southeastern Region - Nat¡¯l Model Railroad Assn.?


    On Nov 18, 2020 at 7:55 PM, <Warren Stephens> wrote:

    A few years before he passed away, Bob Sironen showed me some of the street car right of way up in Missionary Ridge. I was tired after driving up to see Bob after a shift at the Atlanta airport where I work and was not ¡°crisp¡± enough to remember the street name. I¡¯ll be in the area soon and want to poke around and find it again. Does anyone know the streets where you can spot the right of way. I vaguely remember seeing a cannon and at one point the right of way cut across someone¡¯s yard at an angle.
    
    Warren
    
    
    
    
    
    


    Re: Dave Hedges

     

    There are many cemeteries in Hixson but his likely interment location is Hamilton MemoriL Gardens. It is the largest.

    Mark McAllister, CFO-Treasurer
    Southeastern Region - Nat¡¯l Model Railroad Assn.?


    On Nov 18, 2020 at 7:40 PM, <Warren Stephens> wrote:

    I finally was able to confirm the date David Hedges the president of TAG unexpectedly passed away. 15 Dec. 1964, and he is not buried on Signal Mountain as I assumed but is buried on the north side of the river near Hixson. His death certificate says under occupation president and under kind of business railroad. He did indeed have a sudden heart attack as related to me by former TAG folks. You will never see a man start right out of high school and rise to the top job in this day and time.
    
    Warren
    
    
    
    
    
    


    Re: Yahoo groups

     

    Warren is correct, Yahoo Groups is being terminated. If you have not done so, you need to join the TAG group on ,? /g/tagroute?
    Currently there are?27 members in the new group, I do not?know the?membership count on the old group.

    I am a moderator on another group and I did receive an announcement?from Yahoo that Yahoo Groups end Dec 15th. I can't locate it at the moment. Yahoo seems to have been very hit or miss with the announcement. I just went to the Yahoo Groups web page, this pops up:

    • Announcement: End of Yahoo Groups
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    We¡¯re shutting down the Yahoo Groups website on December 15, 2020 and members will no longer be able to send or receive emails from Yahoo Groups.?Yahoo Mail features will continue to function as expected?and there will be no changes to your Yahoo Mail account, emails, photos or other inbox content. There will also be no changes to other Yahoo properties or services. You can find more information about the Yahoo Groups shutdown and alternative service options on this?.


    Bill Delmar
    Atlanta, Ga



    On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 7:47 PM Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
    I can¡¯t say for certain but it has been reported on other yahoo groups that 15 December yahoo is killing all groups. As moderator of the TAG yahoo group I have received no official notice as I did when they shut the files section down last year. I suspect this is accurate information though. If you have not become a member over at TAG groups io you may want to consider doing so just in case. Meanwhile let¡¯s keep posting to both groups till yahoo group dies. I hope someone is planning on making a group io page for the Central of Georgia otherwise CofG fans will loose the ability to connect.

    Warren






    Missionary Ridge right of way

     

    A few years before he passed away, Bob Sironen showed me some of the street car right of way up in Missionary Ridge. I was tired after driving up to see Bob after a shift at the Atlanta airport where I work and was not ¡°crisp¡± enough to remember the street name. I¡¯ll be in the area soon and want to poke around and find it again. Does anyone know the streets where you can spot the right of way. I vaguely remember seeing a cannon and at one point the right of way cut across someone¡¯s yard at an angle.

    Warren


    Yahoo groups

     

    I can¡¯t say for certain but it has been reported on other yahoo groups that 15 December yahoo is killing all groups. As moderator of the TAG yahoo group I have received no official notice as I did when they shut the files section down last year. I suspect this is accurate information though. If you have not become a member over at TAG groups io you may want to consider doing so just in case. Meanwhile let¡¯s keep posting to both groups till yahoo group dies. I hope someone is planning on making a group io page for the Central of Georgia otherwise CofG fans will loose the ability to connect.

    Warren


    Dave Hedges

     

    I finally was able to confirm the date David Hedges the president of TAG unexpectedly passed away. 15 Dec. 1964, and he is not buried on Signal Mountain as I assumed but is buried on the north side of the river near Hixson. His death certificate says under occupation president and under kind of business railroad. He did indeed have a sudden heart attack as related to me by former TAG folks. You will never see a man start right out of high school and rise to the top job in this day and time.

    Warren


    Trains magazine TAG 80 cover

     

    If your having trouble finding the Trains with the TAG 80 cover and article then may I suggest Walmart. I had looked at two Books-A-million and a Barnes & Nobel before happening upon a copy while in my local Walmart. The modern pictures are fantastic. The accuracy of the history/geography of TAG presented in the article was disappointing. One other thing that really bothers me is they used a picture I had printed on my home computer of the engine in Southern tuxedo. I believe I brought it with me when they dedicate the engine. They credited the wrong photographer and it was reproduced in the magazine at a much lower quality than the original Kodachrome slide which resides in my collection. I would have been happy to send the original slide to Milwaukee so the Trains art department could scan it for publication. I had thought about writing to Trains and giving them the true photographer¡¯s name but I have decided not to. The modern pictures - including the cover - are beautiful as I have said and worth the price of the magazine.

    Warren


    Cordele Railfan Festival 2020 - Saturday, November 14, 2020 (with 2nd flyer)

     

    Reminder, with the festival flyer attached.
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    Cordele Railfan Festival 2020

    Saturday, November 14, 2020

    10:00 AM to 4:00 PM

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    Trains Depart from Downtown Cordele.?

    105 East 9th Ave.?

    Cordele, GA 31015

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    Enjoy 1 hour train rides on the SAM Shortline as part of the Cordele Railfan Festival.?

    Price?

    $10.00 Per Person Per Train Ride

    $25.00 All day pass (Ride as much as you want)


    Schedule and more-


    Bill Delmar
    Atlanta, Ga


    Cordele Railfan Festival 2020 - Saturday, November 14, 2020

     

    Cordele Railfan Festival 2020

    Saturday, November 14, 2020

    10:00 AM to 4:00 PM

    ?

    Trains Depart from Downtown Cordele.?

    105 East 9th Ave.?

    Cordele, GA 31015

    ?

    Enjoy 1 hour train rides on the SAM Shortline as part of the Cordele Railfan Festival.?

    Price?

    $10.00 Per Person Per Train Ride

    $25.00 All day pass (Ride as much as you want)


    Schedule and more-


    Bill Delmar
    Atlanta, Ga


    TA&G 80 in Trains Magazine - with link!

     

    Sorry, I hit Send too soon.

    The November 2020 issue of Trains has a 4 page article by Casey Thomason, NS engineer and their company photographer, on TA&G?80.
    The engine is also the cover photo. Here is a link to the cover I scanned.?

    Bill Delmar
    Atlanta, GA


    TA&G 80 in Trains Magazine

     

    The November 2020 issue of Trains has a 4 page article by Casey Thomason, NS engineer and their company photographer, on TA&G?80.
    The engine is also the cover photo. Here is a link to the cover I scanned.

    Bill Delmar
    Atlanta, GA


    Re: Warren Stephens contact

     

    Hi Warren,

    I sent an email a couple weeks ago to catch up on TAG. Did?you get it? Sent to prodigy.? - Mark McAllister

    On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 1:57 PM Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
    Hey Mark, my email is wdstephens@...?
    Please feel free to contact me off list and I look forward to hearing from you.?

    Warren


    On Sep 23, 2020, at 1:48 PM, mlmcallister@... wrote:

    Hi Warren,

    It has been a while since we spoke. I'd like to reconnect as I have a TAG question for you. Please email me off group when you can.

    Mark McAllister


    Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia RR--Nixon--home movies | Moving Image Research Collections

     

    This was shared with me by recently retired NS engineer Tom Holley. At one time I had this footage. Or at least part of it. I loaned it to a friend and a coworker stole it from him and I never got it back. This rat coworker also took some TAG diesel footage I loaned my friend and put it on YouTube without giving me credit. I paid almost $60.00 to get it converted from reel film and this rat can¡¯t even ask if I minded. If he had I would have said sure. Sad thing is this particular fellow was reared by two lifelong members of the Salvation Army. You think he would be a more upright man with that sort of parents. He also stole footage of the CofG coming through Lyerly, GA which is where my dad grew up. This bum took it and it was like a time machine for my dad because it showed where he grew up. At any rate, some of this footage is northbound and some southbound but it is presented as being southbound only. As far as I can tell, we first see the TAG motorcar on the Chattanooga Belt Railway above the state line. A far different St. Elmo than exists today. Note the stacks of hay. You can tell it¡¯s north of the state line because the Belt tracks were not as well maintained as TAG mainline. Also the orientation of the classic profile of Lookout Mountain. The trip through the tunnel is actually northbound as is the shot of the yellow river trestle and the through truss trestle at little river. Isn¡¯t it strange how narrow the yellow river trestle looks when you are headed directly away from it. Note when they break through the tunnel that there is a water tank on the left and a train order office on the right. If you don¡¯t blink you can spot the TAG train order lantern. Instead of semaphores, the TAG once used Northeastern style train order lamps that had wings like a switch stand. Also in the shot of the busy street in Gadsden note the team of horses coming toward the camera. I would guess this was filmed about 1946-50. What I had did not have the trip through the tunnel but it had a still shot of the motorcar parked at Gadsden and it included coming into the Gadsden yard and passing a freight train about to depart for Chattanooga. There was also a shot of TAG steam engines parked in the yard at Alton Park. Any thoughts or observations? Many thanks to Tom for forwarding this.



    TENNESSEE, ALABAMA & GEORGIA RAILWAY TRAIN ORDER FROM ALTON PARK, TENNESSEE 1957

     

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    I have a few TAG train orders so if someone who doesn¡¯t have one wants this let me know you plan on bidding and I¡¯ll not bid against you. If nobody wants it then I¡¯ll bid.?

    Warren?



    Look at this on eBay