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Hi, I am spending quite a bit of time in the object view and I would have a usability recommendation. Each time I move up and down the list, I hear the name of the object, and then 5 numbers. When the numbers are more complex trying to organize several objects on a page, it is hard to hear and remember these numbers as my screen reader is speaking quickly. I would like to suggest using a table view instead of a list view, in the first column it could even pronounce all the info, but I would be able to navigate the numbers individually with the four arrows. I know I can get this data from the context menu, but it could help a lot to internally visualize the layout of the page. Thank you: Tom ?
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New Beta version 3 build 0007
Hello beta testers
I am happy to disclose that we now have another beta release for version 3. I am hopeful that we are now getting closer to a stable release version, so please do now put your efforts in using this version more than the older version. Always
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Here is the download link.
Fixes and enhancements in this release:
TAC-386 fixed issue with widget hit test of rotated stamp
TAC-387 fix issue when loading pngs
TAC-248 improve matching with monarch display (of generated pdf)
TAC-382 fix registration in wrong registry key
TAC-377 get unique id needed for image request from server? (to prevent downloads from other users)
TAC-353 better way of displaying the braille table selection
TAC-372 removed simulated tabs that caused weird behaviour
TAC-350 lines are now merged into the bitmap on mouse release
TAC-356 ensure line thickness is saved in snapshots (for undo/redo)
TAC-364 fix for texture dialog does not update
TAC-363 optimization of program initialization, read the language file once
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adding filters using the ribbon at top of the page
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not sure if this is just me, not sure if this is just a glitch and not sure if this was discussed before:
when adapting the images and wanting to make them sharper, I use the filter section and select the tool needed.
I have noticed that if I use the filters drop down menu the preview image is not shown as I try to change the parameters
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Re: Introduction and image size question
Hi Andrew, Thank you for your quick response. What I’m attaching is a drawing that mostly fills a braille page, this is the size I was looking for, but the image size isshowing as 32 centimeters wide. We got to this through many iterations, starting from much smaller. ? Thank you! ? Tom ? ? ?
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Subject: Re: [tactileview] Introduction and image size question? Hi Tom, Are you first able to share the two documents as an example? 1. The original file that came from the designers. 2. The BPX file saved in TactileView. This would give me a good idea as to knowing what is happening.?
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? Greetings to the Group, ? I just purchased TactileView and joined this group. ? My name is Tom Babinszki, I am a completely blind user, working with sighted graphics designers. ? I would like to join the beta group and provide feedback. ? Also, I would like to start with a question, I am not sure if it is a bug, or I am not using the software properly. ? The situation is that my designers are handing me pictures optimized for braille production. Ideally I would only have to load it into TactileView and print. ? The problem is that when they are giving me a square of 9x9 inches, or 23x23 centimeters, the image loads in a completely different size. I had ones which were 2x2 cm, there was one which was 16x16, I even had a 68x68. These come from different people using different image editing software. The resolution is from about72 to 300 DPI, we tried different DPIs. ? I would like to make sure that I don't have to resize or touch up in TactileView, because I am not able to verify it. When I tried resizing to 23 centimeters, the printout was dotty and spotty, so we have to play with numbers until we get it just right, so for example what shows as 4.3x4.3 inches for the designer comes in as 22x22 centimeters for TactileView which prints out just fine. ? I was wondering what am I doing wrong. What can I tell the designers to use as image parameters so that I can load exactly the size they created no matter what image editing tool they use? ? If it is not an appropriate question for the beta list, can you please refer me to where I can ask this question? ? Thank you for your help: ? Tom ?
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Are you first able to share the two documents as an example?
1. The original file that came from the designers.
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Greetings to the Group,
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I just purchased TactileView and joined this group.
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I would like to join the beta group and provide feedback.
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Also, I would like to start with a question, I am not sure if it is a bug, or I am not using the software properly.
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The situation is that my designers are handing me pictures optimized for braille production. Ideally I would only have to load it into TactileView and print.
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The problem is that when they are giving me a square of 9x9 inches, or 23x23 centimeters, the image loads in a completely different size. I had ones which were 2x2 cm, there was one which was 16x16, I even
had a 68x68. These come from different people using different image editing software. The resolution is from about72 to 300 DPI, we tried different DPIs.
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I would like to make sure that I don't have to resize or touch up in TactileView, because I am not able to verify it. When I tried resizing to 23 centimeters, the printout was dotty and spotty, so we have
to play with numbers until we get it just right, so for example what shows as 4.3x4.3 inches for the designer comes in as 22x22 centimeters for TactileView which prints out just fine.
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I was wondering what am I doing wrong. What can I tell the designers to use as image parameters so that I can load exactly the size they created no matter what image editing tool they use?
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Introduction and image size question
? Greetings to the Group, ? I just purchased TactileView and joined this group. ? My name is Tom Babinszki, I am a completely blind user, working with sighted graphics designers. ? I would like to join the beta group and provide feedback. ? Also, I would like to start with a question, I am not sure if it is a bug, or I am not using the software properly. ? The situation is that my designers are handing me pictures optimized for braille production. Ideally I would only have to load it into TactileView and print. ? The problem is that when they are giving me a square of 9x9 inches, or 23x23 centimeters, the image loads in a completely different size. I had ones which were 2x2 cm, there was one which was 16x16, I even had a 68x68. These come from different people using different image editing software. The resolution is from about72 to 300 DPI, we tried different DPIs. ? I would like to make sure that I don't have to resize or touch up in TactileView, because I am not able to verify it. When I tried resizing to 23 centimeters, the printout was dotty and spotty, so we have to play with numbers until we get it just right, so for example what shows as 4.3x4.3 inches for the designer comes in as 22x22 centimeters for TactileView which prints out just fine. ? I was wondering what am I doing wrong. What can I tell the designers to use as image parameters so that I can load exactly the size they created no matter what image editing tool they use? ? If it is not an appropriate question for the beta list, can you please refer me to where I can ask this question? ? Thank you for your help: ? Tom ?
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Re: pattern/texture fill preview bug
Hi John
This will be fixed before the release.
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Thanks for the workaround around Mary! That did work for me, but in the past, you didn't have to hit apply, and it was very nice not to have to hit apply each time.
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Thanks for the workaround around Mary! That did work for me, but in the past, you didn't have to hit apply, and it was very nice not to have to hit apply each time.
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Re: pattern/texture fill preview bug
Hi Andrew,
Not sure if it helps at all, but I made a video of the issue. Perhaps it is an issue with my system alone? I have noticed this on my last several versions of TactileView. Maybe I have some sort of leftover broken component?from a previous version?
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I am not able to reproduce this one. I will soon send a new build to text, would be keen to know if this is resolved.
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Hi again,??
Another one for you. When applying a pattern/texture fill, the preview doesn't update when you change the size or rotation. See the attached screenshot where I have put both size and rotation to max and no change in the preview. This has been broken in "I think" all of the 2.5 versions I have tried, even before BETA.
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Hi Andrew,
Yes, that's correct for me as well. The bitmap does change, the issue is that it never changes enough to actually have an impact on the braille width, so it effectively doesn't work.
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Hi John, I can replicate the issue you are reporting here. Having said that, if you fuse the image as a Bitmap then I do believe the effect of the thickness of lines comes into effect. That being said, this is an issue and will report it as a bug.? ? Thanks Andrew Flatres Braille Product Manager ? ? EXTERNAL EMAIL?- Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links. | COURRIEL EXTERNE?- Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables. |
Sorry for all the emails! Just testing away on TactileView today! In graph viewing properties, with my Index V5, even with the thickness of my X and Y axis to the max width (8px), I can not get to two braille dots wide thickness on my actual image. Kinda defeats the purpose of being able to change the thickness in the first place. I believe this one also has been broken like this for a long time. This likely is a nonissue for non-Index/Enabling embossers that may use multiple dot heights. Perhaps it would be more useful to be able to choose how many braille dots wide you want you lines and Axis?rather than in pixels that don't ultimately result in a change to the braille thickness. <image001.png> | John?Taylor?|?Products?Specialist
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Hi Michelle,
It seems that the images are there. I am not getting the hour glass icon.
Please could you confirm what version of Duxbury are you using?
Also could you perhaps open the tactile images with the new TactileView and then save again.
Then try inserting them.
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Attached is the Dux file I'm working on. Also is attached is a few Tactileview files that were imported to Duxbury.
Except for the first one, which came dropped in straight away, the others had the hourglass.
I downloaded the latest Beta version a couple of days ago that you had posted.
I have had this problem for a while now but have been unable to join the discussions as the Dept of Education here has been upgrading their Cyber Security.
I have been given clearance for the moment, to be able to participate again, but, I don't know for how long ... the left hand and the right hand have different opinions when I ask.
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Whilst I will still be able to respond to your email, maybe, I won't be able to access Tactileview or Duxbury till the holidays are over.
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Morning Andrew,
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Attached is the Dux file I'm working on. Also is attached is a few Tactileview files that were imported to Duxbury.
Except for the first one, which came dropped in straight away, the others had the hourglass.
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I downloaded the latest Beta version a couple of days ago that you had posted.
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I have had this problem for a while now but have been unable to join the discussions as the Dept of Education here has been upgrading their Cyber Security.
I have been given clearance for the moment, to be able to participate again, but, I don't know for how long ... the left hand and the right hand have different opinions when I ask.
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Hi Michelle,
Could you please send me the Duxbury file and the tactile graphic that is causing this?
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I have attached a screenshot.
I'm having trouble importing from Tactileview into Duxbury ... it's a 50-50 thing.
I get an hourglass that just hangs. I will try 3 or 4 times before the images is imported or I will have to go back to Tactileview, open the file of the image, re-save and then sometimes I will be able to import the image successfully.
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Hi John,
I can replicate the issue you are reporting here. Having said that, if you fuse the image as a Bitmap then I do believe the effect of the thickness of lines comes into effect. That
being said, this is an issue and will report it as a bug.
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Sorry for all the emails! Just testing away on TactileView today!
In graph viewing properties, with my Index V5, even with the thickness of my X and Y axis to the max width (8px), I can not get to two braille dots wide thickness on my actual image. Kinda defeats the purpose of being able to change the
thickness in the first place. I believe this one also has been broken like this for a long time. This likely is a nonissue for non-Index/Enabling embossers that may use multiple dot heights.
Perhaps it would be more useful to be able to choose how many braille dots wide you want you lines and Axis?rather than in pixels that don't ultimately result in a change to the braille thickness.
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Hi John,
I am not able to reproduce this one. I will soon send a new build to text, would be keen to know if this is resolved.
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Hi again,?
Another one for you. When applying a pattern/texture fill, the preview doesn't update when you change the size or rotation. See the attached screenshot where I have put both size and rotation to max and no change in the preview. This has
been broken in "I think" all of the 2.5 versions I have tried, even before BETA.
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Hello,?
Another bug for you. I noticed that when in braille view, some dots in my graphic show as light gray, which would typically only appear if the braille printer you have configured is capable of multiple dot heights, aka a ViewPlus/Tiger
embosser, if you do a print preview, the print preview does not show braille dots in the location of the grey dots at all. Screenshots of my image showing the grey dots and a print preview screenshot of the same image are attached.
 
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Thanks for your feedback.
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Hi Andrew,?
I found a bug in the latest BETA, when I paste in an equation from MathType using the Math text label tool. It seems to paste in fine when I press Paste in Math Equation from Clipboard, but when I press OK to place it into the document,
I get an error that says, “Encountered and importer argument,” and the math does not get inserted into the document. Screenshot attached. Same issue when trying to create a graph from MathType equation as well.
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Greetings,
I have attached a screenshot.
I'm having trouble importing from Tactileview into Duxbury ... it's a 50-50 thing.
I get an hourglass that just hangs. I will try 3 or 4 times before the images is imported or I will have to go back to Tactileview, open the file of the image, re-save and then sometimes I will be able to import the image successfully.
Are you able to help?
Thank you,
Michelle
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