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KD5NWA
 

For people interested in using the SR-40 for dedicated purpose, I was nosing through the Mouser Catalog on line and they have for reasonable prices both crystals and little 3.3Volt oscillator modules to move the SoftRock 40 to the following useful frequencies;

3.579 MHz 80 Meter watering hole, changes to filter needed (14.318 MHz)
4.912 MHz Popular IF frequency, changes to filter needed (19.660 MHz)
8.830 MHz Kenwood IF frequency, no changes to the filter (35.328MHz)
9.0 MHz Ten-Tec and popular IF frequency, no changes to the filter (36 MHz)

Some of those frequencies come out a KHz or thereabout off the correct frequency, but since the SR-40 can tune +- 24 KHz it comes out in the wash.

The crystals are anywhere from $.42 to about $2, and the complete modules are from $1.92 to $3

I'm going to get me some crystals and Osc. modules for 8.830, and crystals for the rest, to play around with.

Nothing like a SR-40 with a TS-940sat for a front end, talk about opposite ends of the spectrum, it will be my SR-40 that can go everywhere with one heck of a front end, or my TS-940sat with Panoramic display.

If one or two guys/gals are interested in getting a OSC module for 8.830MHz the Kenwood panoramic output on the back of the radio, let me know before tomorrow night and I'll include an extra module for you for cost + shipping. I'll send a last call before sending out the purchase order.




Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com

'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.'


Tony Parks
 

Hi Cecil,

In setting the frequency of the SoftRock to use it a a IF amp/demodulator you will want a frequency offset. For example if you are wanting to work with a 8.83 MHz IF then you want the SoftRock40 oscillator set to (8.83 +0.012 )*4 MHz or (8.83 -0.012)*4 MHz. This will keep you away from the noise associated with the sound card around zero Hz and the SoftRock LO signal. Plus it will give you some tuning range through the IF passband.

Another possibility is sub-harmonic sampling which uses a LO frequency 1/3 of the desired RF input frequency. Thus the frequency of the crystal would be (f_desired / 3)*4 . The gain of the QSD is only down 6 dB with the sub-harmonic sampling.

How is the build on your kit coming along and have you received the built unit I recently sent?

73,
Tony KB9YIG

----- Original Message -----
From: "KD5NWA" <KD5NWA@...>
To: <softrock40@...>
Cc: <soft_radio@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:28 PM
Subject: [softrock40]



For people interested in using the SR-40 for dedicated purpose, I was
nosing through the Mouser Catalog on line and they have for
reasonable prices both crystals and little 3.3Volt oscillator modules
to move the SoftRock 40 to the following useful frequencies;

3.579 MHz 80 Meter watering hole, changes to filter needed (14.318 MHz)
4.912 MHz Popular IF frequency, changes to filter needed (19.660 MHz)
8.830 MHz Kenwood IF frequency, no changes to the filter (35.328MHz)
9.0 MHz Ten-Tec and popular IF frequency, no changes to the filter (36 MHz)

Some of those frequencies come out a KHz or thereabout off the
correct frequency, but since the SR-40 can tune +- 24 KHz it comes
out in the wash.

The crystals are anywhere from $.42 to about $2, and the complete
modules are from $1.92 to $3

I'm going to get me some crystals and Osc. modules for 8.830, and
crystals for the rest, to play around with.

Nothing like a SR-40 with a TS-940sat for a front end, talk about
opposite ends of the spectrum, it will be my SR-40 that can go
everywhere with one heck of a front end, or my TS-940sat with
Panoramic display.

If one or two guys/gals are interested in getting a OSC module for
8.830MHz the Kenwood panoramic output on the back of the radio, let
me know before tomorrow night and I'll include an extra module for
you for cost + shipping. I'll send a last call before sending out the
purchase order.




Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com

'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then
beat you with experience.'






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KD5NWA
 

That is going to be tough, crystals at those frequencies are hard to come by, and if you want a custom frequency they end up costing more that the SR-40. The crystal oscillator I found it 2.2KHz on the high side of 8.830, but there are nothing affordable off by another 48KHz. A crystal is also available and with the right circuitry could be pulled "maybe" an additional 20KHz up for a total of 7.2 KHz on the high side. But that is getting pretty complicated.

There is a 35.251 crystal available, that is 17.5KHz on the low side. I'll have to think about it.

Since this is going to be a dedicated application, a DDS would be overkill and too pricey.

I started building it, I got a really nice lamp, but I've had to work late yesterday so I didn't work very much on it, this stuff is too tiny to work on it when you are tired. We have inventory at work this Friday and I've been having to work late this week. Worst case I will work on it this weekend, I'm not planning on going anywhere.

I have not received your kit yet, but I'm hoping it will be in today or tomorrow, the sound card came in pretty quick.

At 12:41 PM 9/28/2005, you wrote:
Hi Cecil,

In setting the frequency of the SoftRock to use it a a IF amp/demodulator
you will want a frequency offset. For example if you are wanting to work
with a 8.83 MHz IF then you want the SoftRock40 oscillator set to (8.83
+0.012 )*4 MHz or (8.83 -0.012)*4 MHz. This will keep you away from the
noise associated with the sound card around zero Hz and the SoftRock LO
signal. Plus it will give you some tuning range through the IF passband.

Another possibility is sub-harmonic sampling which uses a LO frequency 1/3
of the desired RF input frequency. Thus the frequency of the crystal would
be (f_desired / 3)*4 . The gain of the QSD is only down 6 dB with the
sub-harmonic sampling.

How is the build on your kit coming along and have you received the built
unit I recently sent?

73,
Tony KB9YIG

----- Original Message -----
From: "KD5NWA" <KD5NWA@...>
To: <softrock40@...>
Cc: <soft_radio@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:28 PM
Subject: [softrock40]



For people interested in using the SR-40 for dedicated purpose, I was
nosing through the Mouser Catalog on line and they have for
reasonable prices both crystals and little 3.3Volt oscillator modules
to move the SoftRock 40 to the following useful frequencies;

3.579 MHz 80 Meter watering hole, changes to filter needed (14.318 MHz)
4.912 MHz Popular IF frequency, changes to filter needed (19.660 MHz)
8.830 MHz Kenwood IF frequency, no changes to the filter (35.328MHz)
9.0 MHz Ten-Tec and popular IF frequency, no changes to the filter (36
MHz)

Some of those frequencies come out a KHz or thereabout off the
correct frequency, but since the SR-40 can tune +- 24 KHz it comes
out in the wash.

The crystals are anywhere from $.42 to about $2, and the complete
modules are from $1.92 to $3

I'm going to get me some crystals and Osc. modules for 8.830, and
crystals for the rest, to play around with.

Nothing like a SR-40 with a TS-940sat for a front end, talk about
opposite ends of the spectrum, it will be my SR-40 that can go
everywhere with one heck of a front end, or my TS-940sat with
Panoramic display.

If one or two guys/gals are interested in getting a OSC module for
8.830MHz the Kenwood panoramic output on the back of the radio, let
me know before tomorrow night and I'll include an extra module for
you for cost + shipping. I'll send a last call before sending out the
purchase order.




Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com

'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then
beat you with experience.'






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Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com

'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.'


 

I ordered two crystals, 35.208 and 35.304 KHz, from Surplus Sales of Nebraska () about a month ago, they are saying the crystals will arrive in a few days. The idea is to make one of those oscillate at 8817*4 KHz and to put SR40 inside my TS-570. The 8830 KHz IF signal will be pulled from the socket for the extra filter, and SR40 will replace the IF/AF part of the transceiver.

What is the best way of pulling the LO frequency 36 KHz down or 60 KHz up? Is this possible at all? If not, I will have to switch to the 96 KHz sampling rate and use the 35.208 KHz crystal at its nominal frequency. Of course, 96 KHz is an overkill since the bandwidth of the roofing filter in TS-570 is 14 KHz, according to the Service Manual.

73 Alex VE3NEA


Tony Parks
 

Hi Alex,

Your 35.304 MHz crystal sounds just right to me. It will probably oscillate at around 35.4 MHz in the SoftRock40 oscillator circuit. This would divide down to 8.85 MHz and the SoftRock would then cover from 8.826 to 8.874 MHz. This would give you IF passband tuning at your IF frequency -4 kHz to +44 kHz, more than required I would think.

The 35.208 MHz crystal would be a little low in frequency for this application.

One ham has reported great results using the SoftRock40 with his vintage Colins RX with a 455 kHz IF. Please let us all know how it works for you.

73,
Tony KB9YIG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...>
To: <softrock40@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [softrock40]



I ordered two crystals, 35.208 and 35.304 KHz, from Surplus Sales of
Nebraska () about a month ago, they are saying
the crystals will arrive in a few days. The idea is to make one of those
oscillate at 8817*4 KHz and to put SR40 inside my TS-570. The 8830 KHz IF
signal will be pulled from the socket for the extra filter, and SR40 will
replace the IF/AF part of the transceiver.

What is the best way of pulling the LO frequency 36 KHz down or 60 KHz up?
Is this possible at all? If not, I will have to switch to the 96 KHz
sampling rate and use the 35.208 KHz crystal at its nominal frequency. Of
course, 96 KHz is an overkill since the bandwidth of the roofing filter in
TS-570 is 14 KHz, according to the Service Manual.

73 Alex VE3NEA






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Hi Tony,

Many thanks for the SoftRock kit. I have one from Round 3, and it has been working perfectly from the day I assembled it. Your comments on the crystal frequencies are appreciated. I will report my progress with the 8830KHz mod in this group, but this may take a while since I am still having fun with the unmodified version of the receiver.

73 Alex VE3NEA

Hi Alex,

Your 35.304 MHz crystal sounds just right to me. It will probably oscillate
at around 35.4 MHz in the SoftRock40 oscillator circuit. This would divide
down to 8.85 MHz and the SoftRock would then cover from 8.826 to 8.874 MHz.
This would give you IF passband tuning at your IF frequency -4 kHz to +44
kHz, more than required I would think.

The 35.208 MHz crystal would be a little low in frequency for this
application.

One ham has reported great results using the SoftRock40 with his vintage
Colins RX with a 455 kHz IF. Please let us all know how it works for you.

73,
Tony KB9YIG


Tony Parks
 

Alex,

Let me correct my e-mail concerning your crystals. I wrote that the 35.304 MHz crystal should work well, and then I calculated the results for a 35.4 MHz oscillator. What I should have said is that the 35.304 MHz crystal will give you a center frequency of about 8.825 MHz. Your IF of 8.83 MHz allows a tuning range from -29 kHz to about +4 kHz and still avoids that big noise spike in the middle of the SoftRock's tuning range.

73,
Tony KB9YIG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...>
To: <softrock40@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [softrock40]



I ordered two crystals, 35.208 and 35.304 KHz, from Surplus Sales of
Nebraska () about a month ago, they are saying
the crystals will arrive in a few days. The idea is to make one of those
oscillate at 8817*4 KHz and to put SR40 inside my TS-570. The 8830 KHz IF
signal will be pulled from the socket for the extra filter, and SR40 will
replace the IF/AF part of the transceiver.

What is the best way of pulling the LO frequency 36 KHz down or 60 KHz up?
Is this possible at all? If not, I will have to switch to the 96 KHz
sampling rate and use the 35.208 KHz crystal at its nominal frequency. Of
course, 96 KHz is an overkill since the bandwidth of the roofing filter in
TS-570 is 14 KHz, according to the Service Manual.

73 Alex VE3NEA






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