Re: SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
Mike Hi
yes the levels are equal absolutely.( a bit low level but equal
)
The one RX II is homemade and the 2 others are premade ..
The difference in frequency ?is about 20khz.
The level is about 20DB? less than the original one and it is in
higher frequency.
Can you forwarding to me in direct mail the settings that you
are using in both sound card and in Power SDR?
Finally it sounds to me that it may be a wrong setting.
Thank you
De
Nick SV1VS
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Sent: Monday, 07 April, 2014 20:11
To: softrock40@...
Subject: Re: [softrock40] SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving
problem
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Are the
sound levels in each channel equal, they should be very close to the same sound
level.
Did you
build this or buy a pre-built RX II?
What are
the level differences in the LSB and USB signals of the same
transmission.? If one signal is 40 or more DB lower than the other it
might just be caused by a slight sound level imbalance.? I use a Delta 44
with PowerSDR 2.4.4 with a RX II and don’t notice the “image” signals at
all.? Although if I started looking for the image signal I might find some
very weak image signals from very strong signals.
Sent: Monday, April 07,
2014 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: [softrock40]
SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
Dear Mike Hi
Thank you for your reply.
I am in Stereo in Win.
The sound is present in both channels.
There is no sort circuit in the audio.
I am using the Flex Radio? PowerSDR V 2.4.4 with the Build
from SV1EIA.
In the settings of the Delta 44 both channels are working.
I hope that I am replying with? all the details that you
have asked for.
Thank you again
Best 73
DE
Nick SV1VS
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From: softrock40@...
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Sent: Monday, 07 April, 2014 18:29
To: softrock40@...
Subject: Re: [softrock40] SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving
problem
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You don’t
have both sound channels working or there is a big un-balance in the levels or
timing of the stereo sound out of the RX II.? You may have windows set to
“mono” sound which would cause the same problem.? What SDR software are
you using?
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014
9:11 AM
Subject: [softrock40]
SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
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Hi to All.
I want to ask if
anybody has find any receiving problem with the SoftRock
RX Ensemble II HF Receive
in the same band hearing the same station with two type of
modulation? ( USB and LSB ) with? a difference of about 20Khz one
from each other .It happens in all bands from 80m to 10m.
It is happening in two units working with different sound cards
( the one with creative usb SBX PRO STUDIO and the other with the Delta 44 ) ,
with win 7 64 bit? , antennas Mosley Pro 67 C-3? 7el yagi and?
STEP IR? 5el? yagi.
Thank you
73
DE
SV1VS Nick
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Re: SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
Are the sound levels in each channel equal, they should be very close to
the same sound level.
?
Did you build this or buy a pre-built RX II?
?
What are the level differences in the LSB and USB signals of the same
transmission.? If one signal is 40 or more DB lower than the other it might
just be caused by a slight sound level imbalance.? I use a Delta 44 with
PowerSDR 2.4.4 with a RX II and don’t notice the “image” signals at all.?
Although if I started looking for the image signal I might find some very weak
image signals from very strong signals.
?
Mike? W6MXV
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Dear
Mike Hi
Thank
you for your reply.
I
am in Stereo in Win.
The
sound is present in both channels.
There
is no sort circuit in the audio.
I
am using the Flex Radio? PowerSDR V 2.4.4 with the Build from
SV1EIA.
In
the settings of the Delta 44 both channels are working.
I
hope that I am replying with? all the details that you have asked
for.
Thank
you again
Best
73
DE
Nick
SV1VS
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From:
softrock40@... [mailto:softrock40@...] On Behalf Of
MICHAEL TALLENT
Sent: Monday, 07 April, 2014 18:29
To:
softrock40@...
Subject: Re: [softrock40] SoftRock RX
Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
?
You don’t
have both sound channels working or there is a big un-balance in the levels or
timing of the stereo sound out of the RX II.? You may have windows set to
“mono” sound which would cause the same problem.? What SDR software are you
using?
Sent: Monday, April 07,
2014 9:11 AM
Subject: [softrock40]
SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving
problem
?
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Hi
to All.
I
want to ask if anybody has find any receiving problem with the SoftRock
RX Ensemble II HF Receive
in
the same band hearing the same station with two type of modulation? ( USB
and LSB ) with? a difference of about 20Khz one from each other .It happens
in all bands from 80m to 10m.
It
is happening in two units working with different sound cards ( the one with
creative usb SBX PRO STUDIO and the other with the Delta 44 ) , with win 7 64
bit? , antennas Mosley Pro 67 C-3? 7el yagi and? STEP IR?
5el? yagi.
Thank
you
73
DE
SV1VS
Nick
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Re: SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
Dear Mike Hi
Thank you for your reply.
I am in Stereo in Win.
The sound is present in both channels.
There is no sort circuit in the audio.
I am using the Flex Radio? PowerSDR V 2.4.4 with the Build from
SV1EIA.
In the settings of the Delta 44 both channels are working.
I hope that I am replying with ?all the details that you have
asked for.
Thank you again
Best 73
DE
Nick SV1VS
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From: softrock40@...
[mailto:softrock40@...] On Behalf Of MICHAEL TALLENT
Sent: Monday, 07 April, 2014 18:29
To: softrock40@...
Subject: Re: [softrock40] SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving
problem
?
You don’t
have both sound channels working or there is a big un-balance in the levels or
timing of the stereo sound out of the RX II.? You may have windows set to
“mono” sound which would cause the same problem.? What SDR software are
you using?
Sent: Monday, April 07,
2014 9:11 AM
Subject: [softrock40]
SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
?
?
Hi to All.
I want to ask if
anybody has find any receiving problem with the SoftRock
RX Ensemble II HF Receive
in the same band hearing the same station with two type of
modulation? ( USB and LSB ) with? a difference of about 20Khz one
from each other .It happens in all bands from 80m to 10m.
It is happening in two units working with different sound cards
( the one with creative usb SBX PRO STUDIO and the other with the Delta 44 ) , with
win 7 64 bit? , antennas Mosley Pro 67 C-3? 7el yagi and? STEP
IR? 5el? yagi.
Thank you
73
DE
SV1VS Nick
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Re: SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
You don’t have both sound channels working or there is a big un-balance in
the levels or timing of the stereo sound out of the RX II.? You may have
windows set to “mono” sound which would cause the same problem.? What SDR
software are you using?
Did you build the RX II?
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Mike? W6MXV
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Hi
to All.
I
want to ask if anybody has find any receiving problem with the SoftRock
RX Ensemble II HF Receive
in
the same band hearing the same station with two type of modulation? ( USB
and LSB ) with? a difference of about 20Khz one from each other .It happens
in all bands from 80m to 10m.
It
is happening in two units working with different sound cards ( the one with
creative usb SBX PRO STUDIO and the other with the Delta 44 ) , with win 7 64
bit? , antennas Mosley Pro 67 C-3? 7el yagi and? STEP IR?
5el? yagi.
Thank
you
73
DE
SV1VS
Nick
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Hurray!
Thanks for the check.
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I must complement you...this kit is first class! (and I have built a bunch of kits in my time)
73,
Lee
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To: softrock40
Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 7:23 am
Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
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Hi Lee,
Yes L201 looks properly installed in your photo as does T201.
73's
Jim WA2EUJ
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Jim,
OK, makes sense...
I wasn't sure I understood this statement in the Rev B asm instructions...so that's why I asked.
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'Note: The photo shows a Rev A PCB, on the Rev B PCB T201 is rotated 90 degrees and this core is wound with RG-174 not RG-316 the soldering method and final mounting look the same.'
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Thanks for the clarification...Glad I didn't have to re-do it.
73,
Lee
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Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 7:19 am
Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
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Hi Lee,
Yes the 'brass' colored one is RG-316 and uses teflon insulation so it's used in the transformer where it might get very jot. The other piece is the much less expensive RG-174, it's black, and is much more vulnerable to heat so take care when you solder it.
73's
Jim WA2EUJ
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SoftRock RX Ensemble II HF Receive receiving problem
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Hi to All.
I want to ask if
anybody has find any receiving problem with the SoftRock
RX Ensemble II HF Receive
in the same band hearing the same station with two type of
modulation ?( USB and LSB ) with ?a difference of about 20Khz one
from each other .It happens in all bands from 80m to 10m.
It is happening in two units working with different sound cards
( the one with creative usb SBX PRO STUDIO and the other with the Delta 44 ) ,
with win 7 64 bit? , antennas Mosley Pro 67 C-3? 7el yagi and? STEP
IR ?5el ?yagi.
Thank you
73
DE
SV1VS Nick
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Hi Lee,
Yes L201 looks properly installed in your photo as does T201.
73's
Jim WA2EUJ
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Hi Lee,
Yes the 'brass' colored one is RG-316 and uses teflon insulation so it's used in the transformer where it might get very jot. The other piece is the much less expensive RG-174, it's black, and is much more vulnerable to heat so take care when you solder it.
73's
Jim WA2EUJ
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If your concern is with how the board denotes the positive and negative leads, the diagram shown on the referenced web page shows this with a "+" sign silk-screened adjacent to the positive hole, such that the positive "side" of each cap faces inward and the grey banded negative "side" faces outward:
The completed board photo at the bottom of the referenced page shows the caps installed (the grey bands are the negative "sides" of the caps:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:37 PM, R. R. (Robby) Robson <rrrobson@...> wrote:
Assuming it is the Ensemble RXTX kit,
the electrolytic caps and their polarity are discussed on the in the documentation site, where it specifies the following:
"Pay careful attention to the polarity of the electrolytic capacitors. The positive lead is usually the longer lead; the negative lead is on the side with the grey stripe and a minus sign."
-- Cheers,
Robby
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Richard R. (Robby) Robson
LTC USA (USA Retired)
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Assuming it is the Ensemble RXTX kit, the electrolytic caps and their polarity are discussed on the in the documentation site, where it specifies the following:
"Pay careful attention to the polarity of the electrolytic capacitors. The positive lead is usually the longer lead; the negative lead is on the side with the grey stripe and a minus sign."
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It would help to know which kit you are building
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:09 PM, David Casper <videogamencomputerguy@...> wrote:
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GREETING, I SEE A SPOT FOR ELECTROLYTIC C2 AND OTHERS WITH NO POLARITY ON THEM. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THE ELECTROLYTIC S NOT MARKED ON 5/24/10 CIRCUIT BOARD, OR GUIDE ME TO A SPECIFIC LOCATION.
THANKS MUCH,
DAVE CASPER, ARS KI7AH
-- Cheers,
Robby
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Richard R. (Robby) Robson
LTC USA (USA Retired)
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GREETING, I SEE A SPOT FOR ELECTROLYTIC C2 AND OTHERS WITH NO POLARITY ON THEM. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THE ELECTROLYTIC S NOT MARKED ON 5/24/10 CIRCUIT BOARD, OR GUIDE ME TO A SPECIFIC LOCATION.
THANKS MUCH,
DAVE CASPER, ARS KI7AH
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Jim,
Question has come up on the Driver board build...
This is from the asm manual.
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'Note: The photo shows a Rev A PCB, on the Rev B PCB T201 is rotated 90 degrees and this core is wound with RG-174 not RG-316 the soldering method and final mounting look the same.'
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In my kit there was 2 pieces of coax, 1 was 3" long (the other 6" long and black)?and brass color...that is the one I used.
I used the 3" brass colored coax!
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Is this correct?
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Thanks,
73,
Lee
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Sent: Sun, Apr 6, 2014 9:02 am
Subject: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
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Hi Lee,
Here's a photo showing where the leads of L201 go. Are
you using the amp stand alone? If so you should use L202/203, C213,214
and 215 to make a bandpass filter for the bands you intend to operate.
L201 and the caps that are on the PCB are designed for 6M and do not
provide the -60 dB attenuation required by the FCC. I can help you with
filters if necessary.
73's
Jim
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Jim,
Thanks so very much for the help.
I am using it with my HR-50.
I just got the kits last week and I am working to build them now.
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I would L201 just like the photo shows...I had guessed the correct holes to use, but waited for clarification before soldering in.
The left hand wire comes out a little towards the center of the doughnut...is that correct.
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I have include a photo to be sure I have it correct (attached)
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73,
Lee
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To: softrock40
Sent: Sun, Apr 6, 2014 9:02 am
Subject: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
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Hi Lee,
Here's a photo showing where the leads of L201 go. Are
you using the amp stand alone? If so you should use L202/203, C213,214
and 215 to make a bandpass filter for the bands you intend to operate.
L201 and the caps that are on the PCB are designed for 6M and do not
provide the -60 dB attenuation required by the FCC. I can help you with
filters if necessary.
73's
Jim
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Thanks Joe .. I will investigate that driver. 73? Good DX .. Bill K0AWU
From: "joeprice@..."
To: softrock40@...
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 7:48 AM
Subject: [softrock40] Re: Win7 Rocky saga ENDs
Bill. I don't know it this will help but I run Win 7 64bit at 96khz. This issue was covered in the SVIEIA group you can't run the current driver it only supports 48khz? Go to the Dell site and find 5.10.0.5074 this is what I use. Joe? wa9cgz
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Photo doesn't seems to have worked...
Attached...
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Hi Lee,
Here's a photo showing where the leads of L201 go. Are you using the amp stand alone? If so you should use L202/203, C213,214 and 215 to make a bandpass filter for the bands you intend to operate. L201 and the caps that are on the PCB are designed for 6M and do not provide the -60 dB attenuation required by the FCC. I can help you with filters if necessary.
73's
Jim
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Bill.
I don't know it this will help but I run Win 7 64bit at 96khz. This issue was covered in the SVIEIA group
you can't run the current driver it only supports 48khz? Go to the Dell site and find 5.10.0.5074
this is what I use.
Joe? wa9cgz
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Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm
Jim posted the URL for the latest
manual.
73 ... Sid.
On 06/04/14 00:43, Sid Boyce wrote:
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OK Lee,
It's a very active group.
73 ... Sid.
On 05/04/14 21:07, Kc9cdt@... wrote:
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Sid,
OK, Thanks...
Lee
Lee Simmonds
Summit DCS LLC
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260-799-4077 Office
260-403-6936 Cell
-----Original Message-----
From: Sid Boyce
To: softrock40
Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: [softrock40] Question on HardRock
Driver asm
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The ARRLHBC
Yahoo group is the main forum for
Hardrock50 discussion.
You'll get all questions answered
there from knowledgeable guys
including the designer, Jim WA2EUJ.
73 ... Sid.
On 05/04/14 20:54, Kc9cdt@...
wrote:
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I am
building the Rev B HardRock
driver board.
In looking at the asm
instructions I do not see where
the L201 connections go on the
board.
Do they go to the bottem 2
left holes?
My instructions do not allow
opening of the bottem 2 photos
in the Rev B asm instructions.
Could someone post a photo or
a few of the completed Driver
board??
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Thanks,
Lee?
Lee Simmonds
Summit DCS LLC
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260-799-4077 Office
260-403-6936 Cell
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Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
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Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
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