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Hi Clinton.
He did not own Soft rock business. Tony Parks did and sold it to Ben Cherry
here:

the reason I was looking is I wanted to reference his websites. I think he
is still a ham and I wanted to as for permission.

Thanks for your note.

Guy

From his iPhone :
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I think he sold the softrock business.

Sold

Hi All;
I am trying to get in contact with the softrock web owner at
I would like to exchange an email asking a question. His QRZ address is not working.
Thanks!
72
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Hi Ron, I sent you a note.
72
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Sorry, forgot to include my email address rkolarik@neb dot rr dot com

Doing some shop clean up and found a box of unbuilt SR kits. I'll never get to these and it's past time to get them to someone that will build them. These go a a bundle, no time to deal with individual shipments, PayPal preferred, Priority mail to US addresses included, $120 for the lot.

3 - SR for IF, 10.7Mhz
1 - v5 20m (14.060 xtal)
1 - v5 40m
1 - v6 40m
1 - v6 80/40m
1 - v6.2 RXTX 80/40

I'm in digest mode, reply direct please otherwise I may not see your post until much later.

Thanks
Ron K0IDT

to set the gain you can open a terminal and run alsamixer , select the card
, and then toggle to the input or AtoD gain .

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 2:48?PM Philip Atchley via groups.io <ko6bb=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi All,

This is a continuing saga of my getting a Softrock LF operating properly
(again). It has been a number of years since I last used one, and the
one Tony sent me seems to work quite well (with a few quirks). But one
thing I could NOT do was get a 192KCs bandwidth in the NDB band where I
listen. About 96k was the best I could get.

I had bought a new Creative Soundcard to install in my Tower computer as
the soundcard it had seemed a bit "hissy". This is the soundcard I
bought, as it said it was 192k.



After I finally got into the Win 11 setup for the card , try as I might,
I couldn't do any better than 96k, and that is all that HDSDR would let
me do.

Finally, in desperation, I plugged the Softrock into the soundcard that
came with the 'puter, a Realtek that is apparently part of the
motherboard. Well, imagine my surprise when I went into HDSDR and it
let me set the card up for 192K, and I can see that bandwidth in the
display. Seems to work quite well, except that I do get a "clip"
indicator. I've NOT figured out a way to lower the gain of the card
that works, (Win11 is TERRIBLE about letting you change things). But at
least it IS working, but I noticed that I seem to have three very strong
bands of IMD or "noise" (not listened to it yet) in the waterfall.
Something that isn't "real" as I don't hear them on the Yaesu receivers
using the same antenna/ multicoupler, etc.

But otherwise the receiver seems to work well, in three nights recording
(while it was still only 96k) I logged quite a few NDB's, including
several Alaskan ones that I always welcome here. . .

--
<>< 73 From "The Beaconeer's Lair" ><>
Specializing in DXing NDBs (Longwave Beacons)
Phil, KO6BB,

(\__/)
(=’.'=)
(”)冲(”)

EQUIPMENT:
YAESU: FTDX-101MP Xceiver, Dual SDR Receivers (~2020)
YAESU: FTDX-3000 Xceiver, DSP IF, 300Hz Roofing filter (~2019).
Portables: Eton Elite 750 (2), AKA Grundig Satelite 750 (2020)
Sangean ATS-909X2 (2021), Tecsun PL-990 (2021)
SDRs: Airspy Discovery HF+, SDRplay RSPdx, Softrock LF
Scanner: Uniden SDS200
ACC: MFJ-993B Auto Antenna Matcher.
HOMEBREW 4 Port Antenna Multicoupler, Feeds 4 RX's.
HOMEBREW Tunable LF-MF Pre-Amp.
Ratzlaff 440Hz, 6.5Hz BW Audio Filter
Autec Research QF1 Audio Filter.
ANTENNAS: 88 foot Long Ladder-line fed dipole, ~35 feet AGL for MW/HF.
Top Loaded Tee (Dipole fed as single element).
Butternut HF-6V 6 Band Vertical, ~12 Feet AGL for 75-10M
Ratzlaff Active whip, 5 Foot Long, ~22 Feet AGL For LF/MW/HF.
Wellbrook ALA1530LN Loop For LF/MW/HF at ~17 Feet AGL
Discone at ~35 Feet AGL For Scanner
QTH: Merced, California, 37, 18, 37N 120, 30, 6W CM97rh

This is interesting! I haven't used my Softrock RX Ensemble II since Linux
Mint (apparently) dropped the driver for my M-Audio 192k card.

The motherboard on that Dell died (the bad electrolytic capacitor fiasco)
and now I'm using an Asus VivoPC VM60 mini computer with Debian 12 KDE
Plasma. (Dual boots into Manjaro.)

Any 192k (or higher) solutions for that? USB maybe?

73 Mike
W0BTU

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 2:48 PM Philip Atchley via groups.io <ko6bb=
[email protected]> wrote:

... But one
thing I could NOT do was get a 192KCs bandwidth in the NDB band where I
listen. About 96k was the best I could get.

I had bought a new Creative Soundcard to install in my Tower computer as
the soundcard it had seemed a bit "hissy". This is the soundcard I
bought, as it said it was 192k.


...

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www.w0btu.com

Hi All,

This is a continuing saga of my getting a Softrock LF operating properly (again).? It has been a number of years since I last used one, and the one Tony sent me seems to work quite well (with a few quirks).? But one thing I could NOT do was get a 192KCs bandwidth in the NDB band where I listen.? About 96k was the best I could get.

I had bought a new Creative Soundcard to install in my Tower computer as the soundcard it had seemed a bit "hissy".? This is the soundcard I bought, as it said it was 192k.

After I finally got into the Win 11 setup for the card , try as I might, I couldn't do any better than 96k, and that is all that HDSDR would let me do.

Finally, in desperation, I plugged the Softrock into the soundcard that came with the 'puter, a Realtek that is apparently part of the motherboard. ? Well, imagine my surprise when I went into HDSDR and it let me set the card up for 192K, and I can see that bandwidth in the display.? Seems to work quite well, except that I do get a "clip" indicator.? I've NOT figured out a way to lower the gain of the card that works, (Win11 is TERRIBLE about letting you change things).? But at least it IS working, but I noticed that I seem to have three very strong bands of IMD or "noise" (not listened to it yet) in the waterfall.? Something that isn't "real" as I don't hear them on the Yaesu receivers using the same antenna/ multicoupler, etc.

But otherwise the receiver seems to work well, in three nights recording (while it was still only 96k) I logged quite a few NDB's, including several Alaskan ones that I always welcome here. . .

--
<>< 73 From "The Beaconeer's Lair" ><>
Specializing in DXing NDBs (Longwave Beacons)
Phil, KO6BB,

(\__/)
(=’.'=)
(”)冲(”)

EQUIPMENT:
YAESU: FTDX-101MP Xceiver, Dual SDR Receivers (~2020)
YAESU: FTDX-3000 Xceiver, DSP IF, 300Hz Roofing filter (~2019).
Portables: Eton Elite 750 (2), AKA Grundig Satelite 750 (2020)
Sangean ATS-909X2 (2021), Tecsun PL-990 (2021)
SDRs: Airspy Discovery HF+, SDRplay RSPdx, Softrock LF
Scanner: Uniden SDS200
ACC: MFJ-993B Auto Antenna Matcher.
HOMEBREW 4 Port Antenna Multicoupler, Feeds 4 RX's.
HOMEBREW Tunable LF-MF Pre-Amp.
Ratzlaff 440Hz, 6.5Hz BW Audio Filter
Autec Research QF1 Audio Filter.
ANTENNAS: 88 foot Long Ladder-line fed dipole, ~35 feet AGL for MW/HF.
Top Loaded Tee (Dipole fed as single element).
Butternut HF-6V 6 Band Vertical, ~12 Feet AGL for 75-10M
Ratzlaff Active whip, 5 Foot Long, ~22 Feet AGL For LF/MW/HF.
Wellbrook ALA1530LN Loop For LF/MW/HF at ~17 Feet AGL
Discone at ~35 Feet AGL For Scanner
QTH: Merced, California, 37, 18, 37N 120, 30, 6W CM97rh

Hi all,

Tony was very kind and sent me his Softrock LF receiver.? It seems to be working very well, except for ONE thing.? Here is a breakdown of what I've seen on the overnight recordings I made using HDSDR (my program of choice).? It's been a few years since I've last used a Softrock, so I might be missing something.

1.? On the night of 9 October I made recordings for the full night with an LO frequency of 220KHz.? Everything went well, except for a strong spur on the LO frequency.? I seem to remember that can be due to not using isolation transformers between the receiver and computer sound card.? Like I said, it's been awhile, and that wasn't a great concern at the moment.? I logged a number of beacons and all were on the proper frequencies.

2.? On the night of 10 October I again did an overnight recording, this time using an LO frequency of 250KHz.? Again, everything went well, everything on frequency and I logged a number of beacons (their number is rapidly diminishing).

3.? Last night I made an overnight recording using an LO frequency of 380KHz so I could cover the upper range of the NDB band.? This time everything is messed up frequency wise.? The frequency of all NDB's read exactly 10KHz high, this from well known and stable ones like MOG on 404KHz.?? NOTE:? I DID try using both installs of HDSDR (V2.76 & V2.80) to make sure that wasn't the problem, but both read the same.

As I no longer have any NDBs within daytime range I can't check things out until night falls.

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Specializing in DXing NDBs (Longwave Beacons)
Phil, KO6BB,

(\__/)
(=’.'=)
(”)冲(”)

EQUIPMENT:
YAESU: FTDX-101MP Xceiver, Dual SDR Receivers (~2020)
YAESU: FTDX-3000 Xceiver, DSP IF, 300Hz Roofing filter (~2019).
Portables: Eton Elite 750 (2), AKA Grundig Satelite 750 (2020)
Sangean ATS-909X2 (2021), Tecsun PL-990 (2021)
SDRs: Airspy Discovery HF+, SDRplay RSPdx, Softrock LF
Scanner: Uniden SDS200
ACC: MFJ-993B Auto Antenna Matcher.
HOMEBREW 4 Port Antenna Multicoupler, Feeds 4 RX's.
HOMEBREW Tunable LF-MF Pre-Amp.
Ratzlaff 440Hz, 6.5Hz BW Audio Filter
Autec Research QF1 Audio Filter.
ANTENNAS: 88 foot Long Ladder-line fed dipole, ~35 feet AGL for MW/HF.
Top Loaded Tee (Dipole fed as single element).
Butternut HF-6V 6 Band Vertical, ~12 Feet AGL for 75-10M
Ratzlaff Active whip, 5 Foot Long, ~22 Feet AGL For LF/MW/HF.
Wellbrook ALA1530LN Loop For LF/MW/HF at ~17 Feet AGL
Discone at ~35 Feet AGL For Scanner
QTH: Merced, California, 37, 18, 37N 120, 30, 6W CM97rh

Personally, I'd buy a computer.

I have had an Ensemble II HF and also an Ensemble iI VHF (2M) for many
years. I haven't run them in over ten years. When I did run them, I used a
Mac Mini computer with Parallels and ran Windows 7 with HDSDR . Both units
ran very well on this set up.

Now I have a new Mac Mini M1 with Parallels and Windows 11 ARM on it. I
have a couple of other software packages running on it with no problems.
But, HDSDR won't install and run. Looking around with Google, I see lots
of folks making similar complaints.

Do any of you on this list run HDSDR on Windows 11 ARM? If so, I need your
help to get my setup running.

Thanks,

Dave, K4TO

Hi Phil, it is great you got the rcvr working as you like. What a nice writeup.
You have a really nice, neat setup from looking at your picture on QRZ.
73



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Hi All,

Awhile back I posted a message saying that I was looking to purchase a Softrock LF receiver, were they still available and where? ? This is a rather long message, as I'm going into obtaining, the arrival and installation of my 'new-old' receiver.?? OK, here goes.

1.? Thanks to the folks on this list I discovered where I could order the set, and proceeded to do so, even though with the severe rheumatoid (sp?) arthritis in my hands I knew it would be very difficult to handle the small parts.? Some days I can hardly close my fingers to make a fist. That's something that didn't bother me years ago when I built my previous sets.

2.? THEN, I received an email from Tony Casorso offering to give me his Softrock LF that he apparently hadn't used in years.? Thank you Tony!? For me this was a big case of Deja-Vue (nobody ever gave me an 'A' for spelling) as Tony had loaned me that very same receiver many, many years ago and it got me started on the trip down the SDR trail.? With it I learned how to do overnight recordings of the NDB beacon band.

3.? But to make it ready to install a Softrock I really needed to do some upgrades to my computer.? It is a high performance "tower computer" with Win11 on it.? In addition to my radio hobbies, I collect old time radio shows, old TV, old Movies, old comic books etc.? Mostly public domain, I share about? 112.7TB of files on various sharing hubs.? So, I have a total of 15 hard drives running 24/7, they vary in size from 10-18TB each.? 13 of the drives are "internal" drives that are mounted in two drive storage bays (5 bay & 8 bay).? With other peripherals installed all my USB ports were in use, and I had a couple external USB hubs installed too.? Problem is, if I was downloading or uploading files, with all those drives are churning away, it caused frequent data collisions and other problems.? So, I decided to install a new PCIe card in the 'puter along with a new Sound-blaster Audigy FX? PCIe card just for the Softrock.? The next paragraphs explain the problems I had with both of those cards , it may help somebody in the future troubleshoot card installation problems.? NOTE:? I'd installed similar cards in previous 'puters with NO problems.

4.? Installed the? FrescoLogic"USB3.0 Super Speed PCI Express Host Card" (7 USB ports).? Reading the (tiny) instruction sheet I installed the drivers for it from the provided CD (THANKS!) Rebooted the 'puter and tested the ports, nothing, DEAD ports! In checking the devices in the list of installed devices there was a yellow !? indicating that device wasn't working (I knew that). After a couple of hours working on installing, rebooting and so forth I finally went to their web site and looked for their help section.? Found it, the FIRST problem covered was "card not working" after install (or words to that effect).? The gist of the story was that the install CD is ONLY to be used on machines running Win8 and earlier.? Win 10 (it didn't mention 11) is to NOT use the CD, but during installation have windows look for the best driver which is part of Windows (again I have Win11).? After uninstalling it and then reinstalling? and letting Windows do it's thing the card works perfectly!?? Gee, thanks, all it would have cost would have been the price of a small piece of paper a few inches square with "DO NOT USE CD ON Win10 and LATER"!

5.? Installation of the Sound-Blaster PCIe card.? Should be fairly straight forward, I've done it before.? So after installing the card everything looked good, the 'puter saw the card as a valid sound card.? Plugged the Softrock into the Line In port and fired up? HDSDR (V.2.76) which I prefer.?? I kept getting an error to the effect that the Soundcard didn't recognize that particular file format.? After going around in circles for awhile I decided to try HDSDR V.2.80.? Imagine my pleasant surprise when the Softrock took right off and I was getting the expected waterfall and everything seems OK now.? Just for grins I retried? HDSDR (V.2.76) and it too worked just fine.? So I'm really NOT sure what the problem was at the start, but all is good at "The Beaconeer's Lair" (what I've called my shack for many, many years)!

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<>< 73 From "The Beaconeer's Lair" ><>
Specializing in DXing NDBs (Longwave Beacons)
Phil, KO6BB,

(\__/)
(=’.'=)
(”)冲(”)

EQUIPMENT:
YAESU: FTDX-101MP Xceiver, Dual SDR Receivers (~2020)
YAESU: FTDX-3000 Xceiver, DSP IF, 300Hz Roofing filter (~2019).
Portables: Eton Elite 750 (2), AKA Grundig Satelite 750 (2020)
Sangean ATS-909X2 (2021), Tecsun PL-990 (2021)
SDRs: Airspy Discovery HF+, SDRplay RSPdx
Scanner: Uniden SDS200
ACC: MFJ-993B Auto Antenna Matcher.
HOMEBREW 4 Port Antenna Multicoupler, Feeds 4 RX's.
HOMEBREW Tunable LF-MF Pre-Amp.
Ratzlaff 440Hz, 6.5Hz BW Audio Filter
Autec Research QF1 Audio Filter.
ANTENNAS: 88 foot Long Ladder-line fed dipole, ~35 feet AGL for MW/HF.
Top Loaded Tee (Dipole fed as single element).
Butternut HF-6V 6 Band Vertical, ~12 Feet AGL for 75-10M
Ratzlaff Active whip, 5 Foot Long, ~22 Feet AGL For LF/MW/HF.
Wellbrook ALA1530LN Loop For LF/MW/HF at ~17 Feet AGL
Discone at ~35 Feet AGL For Scanner
QTH: Merced, California, 37, 18, 37N 120, 30, 6W CM97rh

I guess the file attachment didn't go through. I put it in the Files
section of the groups.io page. It's called
"Ensemble_LF_Inductance_Calcs.pdf"

Zack W9SZ

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:45?AM Zack Widup via groups.io <w9sz.zack=
[email protected]> wrote:

For LF I re-designed the toroids to use #3 and #15 material from Amidon.
They require a lot less turns.

I'm attaching a spreadsheet with the new toroid data in it. Hopefully it
goes through. If not, I can put it in the files section of the groups.io
page.

Zack W9SZ

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 8:15?AM Guy Mengel N1GMM <guy@...> wrote:

Hi Phil;
I find what you are doing VERY interesting. indeed. I can look and see
what the LF cores and the windings are. I may have them in my small
stock. I have one RX ensemble unbuild and 5 other RXTX ensembles not
built, and one RXTX built. I had plans to make a whole QRP gaggle of

rigs

to use that I built. I am just now getting back to it.. as I had 2
strokes, right cerebral. I taught myself to walk and walk with a cane..

my

mind is clearing although dizzy still and foggy after 2 years.. I had to

go

on disability. I am 67 healthy otherwise.

Let me look and see. LF interests me greatly. and there was another
individual Roger Graves, VE7VV that specialized in using the RXTX as a LF
transmitter at 160m.

I need to look up ndbs to see what their freq range is to see if I have
the torrids.
Guy

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For LF I re-designed the toroids to use #3 and #15 material from Amidon.
They require a lot less turns.

I'm attaching a spreadsheet with the new toroid data in it. Hopefully it
goes through. If not, I can put it in the files section of the groups.io
page.

Zack W9SZ

Hi Phil,
I am sorry I indicated to you incorrectly and told you about the /16 board. The Softrock RX Ensemble iI does include all torroids and instructions for 10-160. It is multiband.
See:

I have an ubuilt kit that I will be building as a standalone unit.. using
An article in QEX. by Dave Harrison W6IBC. If you are a member of ARRL you can get the article for free. QEX July/August 2022

Guy

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Hi Phil,

I still have that LF softrock that you borrowed from me years ago. It is sitting in a drawer and I would be happy to send it along to you if you want it. No charge.

As far as overnight recording of the NDB band, I used the Elad S2 for years and now I use the S3. Both have a 384Khz bandwidth which covers the band pretty well. I get about 64GB per night.

Tony
AD0VC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Philip Atchley via groups.io <ko6bb@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [softrock40] Receiver availability?

Hi Zack,

Thank you for the info. Yes, I have a Airspy Discovery HF+, as well as
an SDRplay, both being good receivers. A couple problems for the task
I typically use them for though. Except when using a Perseus (I sold
it) my program of choice for overnight recordings of the NDB band
(~200-530KHz) is HDSDR (yes, I know it's old, but I'm used to it and at
80yrs old new software doesn't come as easy as it used to). Problem is
I've never been able to get a reasonable size recording from either of
those two receivers in HDSDR. A 2GB file only holds about 4.5 minutes,
meaning that an 8 hour night creates about 215GB of files, eating up
hard drive space rapidly (though I have about 120TB of drives on this
machine most of it is occupied by movies, TV shows, music, comics etc
(ALL Old) that I share on the hubs. I don't just record the NDB's and
then toss the files when the CLE (Coordinated listening session) is
finished, I archive them for posterity. I have files of NDBs going back
to 2016 (they are rapidly being decommissioned). The Softrock
recordings I have going way back (and used a 192K soundcard) would give
me about 43 minutes per 2GB file.

So, that's why I want to get another Softrock, seems like I go through
receivers about as often as some folks change their socks ;-)

<>< 73 From "The Beaconeer's Lair" ><>
Specializing in DXing NDBs (Longwave Beacons)
Phil, KO6BB,

(\__/)
(=’.'=)
(”)冲(”)

EQUIPMENT:
YAESU: FTDX-101MP Xceiver, Dual SDR Receivers (~2020)
YAESU: FTDX-3000 Xceiver, DSP IF, 300Hz Roofing filter (~2019).
Portables: Eton Elite 750 (2), AKA Grundig Satelite 750 (2020)
Sangean ATS-909X2 (2021), Tecsun PL-990 (2021)
SDRs: Airspy Discovery HF+, SDRplay RSPdx
Scanner: Uniden SDS200
ACC: MFJ-993B Auto Antenna Matcher.
HOMEBREW 4 Port Antenna Multicoupler, Feeds 4 RX's.
HOMEBREW Tunable LF-MF Pre-Amp.
Ratzlaff 440Hz, 6.5Hz BW Audio Filter
Autec Research QF1 Audio Filter.
ANTENNAS: 88 foot Long Ladder-line fed dipole, ~35 feet AGL for MW/HF.
Top Loaded Tee (Dipole fed as single element).
Butternut HF-6V 6 Band Vertical, ~12 Feet AGL for 75-10M
Ratzlaff Active whip, 5 Foot Long, ~22 Feet AGL For LF/MW/HF.
Wellbrook ALA1530LN Loop For LF/MW/HF at ~17 Feet AGL
Discone at ~35 Feet AGL For Scanner
QTH: Merced, California, 37, 18, 37N 120, 30, 6W CM97rh

On 9/28/2023 6:12 PM, Zack Widup wrote:

I have the HF and the LF Ensemble II and a third that I was going to build.
The HF version has one 74AC74 divider in it. The LF version has an
additional 74AC74 divider in it. If I remember correctly, the HF version
would tune down to about 900 kHz and the LF version would tune down to
about 180 kHz. An additional divide by 16 board was supplied by Tony on
request that would allow the unit to tune down to the tens of kHz range, if
I remember correctly. That's the one I was building but never got around to
finishing it.

By the way, the Airspy Discovery HF+ is an outstanding SDR receiver that
goes down to 5 kHz (!). It's the best I've seen in the LF/VLF range.

73, Zack W9SZ

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On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:38?PM Philip Atchley via groups.io <ko6bb=
[email protected]> wrote:

Guy,

Thank you, I ordered the RX kit and the 16X board (16x board only
5.00). I seem to remember that the Softrock LF Receivers that I built
in the past all had the 16X divider already on the PCB, just had to use
different jumpers. Of course they came with toroid cores for the LF
bands instead of HF. Not sure what I'll do for that. . .

Now, I just hope I'll be able to build it well. I have built a
gazillion things since I first got interested in Electronics at age 10
(about 1953). But I have pretty severe "RA" (Arthritis) in my hands
now, especially the right one. Fingers are stiff.

By the way, I had an Uncle on my mother's side who was named "Guy" (last
name Surber). But we all just called him "Uncle Bud".

<>< 73 From "The Beaconeer's Lair" ><>
Specializing in DXing NDBs (Longwave Beacons)
Phil, KO6BB,

(\__/)
(=’.'=)
(”)冲(”)

Here is the link to the LF items from Roger Ve7VV.


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