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Rocky 1.07 is available

 

Rocky 1.07 - one stupid bug fixed, please try now



73 Alex VE3NEA


40 Meter free zone

KD5NWA
 

In the area I live right now, I have high voltage lines (500KV) on three sides about a 1/8 to 1/4 mile away.

The weird thing is I get practically no signals on 40 meters, and when I do they are very weak. I have several receivers to listen with a SR-40, TS-940, TS-930, TS-830, FT-817, and a TenTec Corsair, it's the same with all the radios. 80M, 20M is teaming with signals and low noise. I have used a Delta Loop, and a Random wire antenna, with no difference other than noise.

Has anyone encountered anything so weird?

For a while I thought my SR-40 was not working, until I tried to transmit 2 watts into a dummy load, which I could pick up on the SR-40.


Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
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I fail to see why doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results every time is insanity: I've almost proved it isn't; only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ...


29.000 mHz crystals

Michael Blake
 

Is anyone aware of a ready source of 29.000 mHz fundamental crystals?? That would center the SR40 on 7.250.
?
Or any readily available crystals in the range of 28.696 to 29.104.? This would place the receiver within the 7.150 through 7.300 phone band.
?
73 - Mike - K9JRI
?


30M crystals still available for the SoftRock V4.0

Bruce Beford
 

As a reminder, I still have plenty of the 40.500Mhz fundamental-mode
crystals needed to put the Version 4.0 or earlier SoftRock on 30M. These
crystals yield a center frequency of about 10.125 Mhz. This allows nearly
full-band coverage of 30M with the SoftRock. You will need to change C6 and
C7 in the oscillator from 100pF to about 33Pf. Details are in the N1RX
folder of the Photos section of this group.

The price for US delivery is $2.00 each. For foreign addresses (including
Canada) the price is $2.50 for one, $2.00 each for two and up. You may send
payment via PayPal to bruce.beford@... I will fill orders on a
first-come, first served basis.

Any questions? Email me direct, and I'll answer as best I can.

73,
Bruce N1RX


Re: group buy, crystals

kb9yig
 

Hi Art,

If you or others could come up with a short list of SMT crystal case
sizes you might like to use, I will see what can be done to include
that option.

Yes, the band specific board will be available in greater quantity
and as a separate item in addition to two being included in the kit.

I am needing to test the QSD at the higher frequency bands to see
what the limitations will be.

I am wanting to have an exciter function that will output at least
200mW when we get to that part of the design.

Thanks,
Tony KB9YIG

Have done some checking in the last couple of hours and surface
mount
crystals are the coming trend and in the long term, they should be
cheaper and far more available than the metal housing types. The
microprocessor/PIC industry is growing and might make crystals
more
available. Many of these builders want the smaller SMT type of
crystals.

If the PCB etchs were slightly modified, users of the modules
could
elect to use anything they can get their hands on, which is a good
thing.

I sure hope you plan to make the top boards available separately.
I'd
like one for 40 meters extra band, one for the 40 meter QRP cw
band,
one for 40 meter phone, one for the 80 meter QRP cw band, one for
the
lowfer 185 Khz band, and one for the part 5 experimental band (137
Khz) ham band.

While I will ultimately have a DDS to control the frequency, there
is
a lot to be said for having a crystal, which is simpler, cheaper,
uses less battery power and (in general) makes the softrock more
'portable' and much more self contained.

With the planned analog switch, what will the upper usable receive
frequency be?? Will it work on 10 meters, 6 meters?

Can't wait for the quadrature transmit exciter option Tony, an
AWESOME addition! Give me 20 milliwatts output power capability
and
I'm a happy camper!

Regards,

Art


At 04:08 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote:

Good idea Art.

I am thinking about providing two of the band specific top boards
with each
kit but not include crystals and other band specific components.
The
generally needed components for these top boards would be
provided in the
kit and would include the cores for L21, L22 and T21.

The v5.0 top board is being layed out for a HC49U crystal case
size with the
crystal mounded parallel to the PCB. Other crystal case sizes,
such as the
stubby version of the HC49U used in the v4.0, will fit in the
area provide.

73,
Tony KB9YIG


Re: SoftRock v5.0 schematic

pe1nnz
 

Hi Tony,

With the introduction of the two switch QSD, the need for a bifiliar
winding on the secondary transformer is maybe no longer necessary. I do
not see the added value of the inverted signal anymore, since I think
that the same information could be also found on the non-inverted part
(is this true?).

73,
Guido

--- In softrock40@..., "kb9yig" <raparks@c...> wrote:

Good Evening All,

I have posted in the Files area a schematic of the V5.0 SoftRock. I
am
working on the board layout but am quite willing to make changes that
would make the v5.0 more useful to the group.

Your comments would be appreciated.

Thanks and 73,
Tony KB9YIG


Re: group buy, crystals

 

--- In softrock40@..., KY1K <ky1k@p...> wrote:

Is it asking to much to extend the pads for the crystal so that an
SMT type crystal can be soldered without having to jury rig something?
The request to modifiy the pads to be able to use smt crystals seems
reasonable. I second the resquest...

While I will ultimately have a DDS to control the frequency, there is
a lot to be said for having a crystal, which is simpler, cheaper,
uses less battery power and (in general) makes the softrock more
'portable' and much more self contained.
Amen. Not to mention that with any DDS you have to deal with the
spurs. While there are some tricks to be done to alleviate this, a
crystal is a much simpler solution unless you "just have to" cover a
large freq range.

With the planned analog switch, what will the upper usable receive
frequency be?? Will it work on 10 meters, 6 meters?
I am sure it will work on 10 meters pretty well. There is a problem
with increasing noise figure of the QSD with frequency to be dealt
with yet. Maybe Tony can tell us if 6 meters is a possibility.

73 de Phil N8VB


Re: group buy, crystals

KY1K
 

Hi Tony,

Is it asking to much to extend the pads for the crystal so that an SMT type crystal can be soldered without having to jury rig something?

Have done some checking in the last couple of hours and surface mount crystals are the coming trend and in the long term, they should be cheaper and far more available than the metal housing types. The microprocessor/PIC industry is growing and might make crystals more available. Many of these builders want the smaller SMT type of crystals.

If the PCB etchs were slightly modified, users of the modules could elect to use anything they can get their hands on, which is a good thing.

I sure hope you plan to make the top boards available separately. I'd like one for 40 meters extra band, one for the 40 meter QRP cw band, one for 40 meter phone, one for the 80 meter QRP cw band, one for the lowfer 185 Khz band, and one for the part 5 experimental band (137 Khz) ham band.

While I will ultimately have a DDS to control the frequency, there is a lot to be said for having a crystal, which is simpler, cheaper, uses less? battery power and (in general) makes the softrock more 'portable' and much more self contained.

With the planned analog switch, what will the upper usable receive frequency be?? Will it work on 10 meters, 6 meters?

Can't wait for the quadrature transmit exciter option Tony, an AWESOME addition! Give me 20 milliwatts output power capability and I'm a happy camper!

Regards,

Art


At 04:08 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote:

Good idea Art.

I am thinking about providing two of the band specific top boards with each
kit but not include crystals and other band specific components.? The
generally needed components for these top boards would be provided in the
kit and would include the cores for L21, L22 and T21.

The v5.0 top board is being layed out for a HC49U crystal case size with the
crystal mounded parallel to the PCB.? Other crystal case sizes, such as the
stubby version of the HC49U used in the v4.0, will fit in the area provide.

73,
Tony KB9YIG


Re: Rocky 1.06

KD5NWA
 

< >

At 03:36 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote:
Where can one find a copy of Rocky 1.06 or 1.05 ?

I checked the groups file section. ?

Stan


--- In softrock40@..., "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@d...> wrote:


Rocky 1.06 addresses the distorted sound and no IQ balance problem
with some
sound cards. It should also work with Windows ME.

73 Alex VE3NEA







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KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com

I fail to see why doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results every time is insanity: I've almost proved it isn't; only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ...


Re: Rocky 1.06

 

Where can one find a copy of Rocky 1.06 or 1.05 ?

I checked the groups file section. ?

Stan


--- In softrock40@..., "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@d...> wrote:


Rocky 1.06 addresses the distorted sound and no IQ balance problem
with some
sound cards. It should also work with Windows ME.

73 Alex VE3NEA


Re: group buy, crystals

Tony Parks
 

Good idea Art.

I am thinking about providing two of the band specific top boards with each kit but not include crystals and other band specific components. The generally needed components for these top boards would be provided in the kit and would include the cores for L21, L22 and T21.

The v5.0 top board is being layed out for a HC49U crystal case size with the crystal mounded parallel to the PCB. Other crystal case sizes, such as the stubby version of the HC49U used in the v4.0, will fit in the area provide.

73,
Tony KB9YIG

----- Original Message -----
From: "KY1K" <ky1k@...>
To: <softrock40@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
Subject: [softrock40] group buy, crystals


Greetings all,

I talked to a crystal manufacturer several years ago about buying a
custom crystal. The price quoted for my single piece was absolutely
terrifying! I still have night mares about it:>:

But, I remember part of the discussion regarding multiple pieces of
the same frequency being MUCH cheaper. Further, as the call
progressed, I learned that the crystals became even much cheaper if I
didn't need the high stability cut (which I think was an 'AT'). On
top of that, the prices were much cheaper still if you didn't specify
an exact frequency.....which meant you didn't need .005 percent
tolerance with respect to the oscillator frequency. And, even the
packaging impacts the price....smaller packages are cheaper although
to a lesser degree.

Since Tony appears to be making the new softrock with the frequency
determining components on a separate board, changing bands is as easy
as plugging in a different daughter board.

Perhaps we (as a group) could order crystals in bulk to get the
crystals at lower cost? Perhaps we could ask Tony to have the crystal
board etch pattern set up to accommodate different crystal packages?

Since the softrock might eventually have a quadrature transmitter
board, perhaps some might like the option of ordering SSB crystals at
some time too?

I personally don't mind if the crystal is a few KC one side or the
other of the intended frequency. I also don't mind an SMT package and
I don't mind if the temperature vs frequency change is a little
higher than more expensive crystals (as long as it's not way out of whack).

Is there any interest in a group buy of 'experimenter grade'
crystals??? If so, what price is minimally acceptable and what
frequencies would you order if someone was willing to coordinate a group buy?

Ragards,

Art










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Re: group buy, crystals

Michael Blake
 

I think that a group buy is an excellent idea.? I just built two SR40s this week, for myself and for W9VMT, and we both want to move our units into the 40M phone band.

As an interest "getter" and a general demo tool the SR40 would be much more inviting with voices coming out of the speakers than with beeps :-)

George (W9VMT) and I (K9JRI) intend to move our radios to the upper end of 40.? Probably with a center frequency of 7.250 so that some of the regularly active net operations could be listened to and used to demonstrate SDR.

We intend to re-crystal the version 4 radios which, I believe, use different crystals than the newer proposed version 5 radios.? Version 4 uses crystals that are 4X the desired center frequency so we will require 29.000 mHz. crystals.

I have not looked to see if 29.000 is a comon industrial crystal but I had intended to call International Crystal next week while vacationing on the Isle of Palms, SC.

73 - Mike - K9JRI


Re: SharpDSP Mini Console with Analog Meter

EricJ
 

I took a few years off ham radio to play seriously
with MS Flight Simulator. My main interest was
developing authentic instruments for 1940's era
aircraft. I wrote the "guts" in C and a friend in
North Carolina did the graphics. Our biggest project
was a DC-3, but we did a number of single instruments
and controls for other panel designers who were
working on '40s and 50's era general aviation
aircraft.

It is such a thrill to sit in front of beautifully
rendered analog instruments. There is an almost
organic look to analog instruments and radios that is
very satisfying. Even the video game generation is
interested in the retro look of early motorcycles, for
example. Again, thanks for recognizing this with
analog meter options on your Console. The new square
S-meter is terrific.

Eric
KE6US
www.ke6us.com

--- Phil Covington <p.covington@...> wrote:

Hi Eric,

Beppe IK3VIG sent me a really nice meter face. I
uploaded the new
version to my website today. You can see a screen
shot there.

73 de Phil N8VB


--- In softrock40@..., EricJ
<eric_ke6us@y...> wrote:

The analog meter is a beautiful addition to the
Console, Phil. With SDR's we can, once again,
enjoy
the beauty and utility of analog meters since they
are
essentially free. I hope more designers treat us
to
these visual delights instead of the ugliness of
computer rendered LED bargraphs which were used in
hardware radios for economic reasons.

Eric
KE6US
www.ke6us.com

--- Phil Covington <p.covington@g...> wrote:

Hi all,

I just posted a new version of the SharpDSP Mini
Console for the
SoftRock 40 to my website at:



Please see my Blog entry for 10-19-2005 for
details
about this release:



The default meter face supplied is not
calibrated,
it is included for
demonstration.

73 de Phil N8VB





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group buy, crystals

KY1K
 

Greetings all,

I talked to a crystal manufacturer several years ago about buying a custom crystal. The price quoted for my single piece was absolutely terrifying! I still have night mares about it:>:

But, I remember part of the discussion regarding multiple pieces of the same frequency being MUCH cheaper. Further, as the call progressed, I learned that the crystals became even much cheaper if I didn't need the high stability cut (which I think was an 'AT'). On top of that, the prices were much cheaper still if you didn't specify an exact frequency.....which meant you didn't need .005 percent tolerance with respect to the oscillator frequency. And, even the packaging impacts the price....smaller packages are cheaper although to a lesser degree.

Since Tony appears to be making the new softrock with the frequency determining components on a separate board, changing bands is as easy as plugging in a different daughter board.

Perhaps we (as a group) could order crystals in bulk to get the crystals at lower cost? Perhaps we could ask Tony to have the crystal board etch pattern set up to accommodate different crystal packages?

Since the softrock might eventually have a quadrature transmitter board, perhaps some might like the option of ordering SSB crystals at some time too?

I personally don't mind if the crystal is a few KC one side or the other of the intended frequency. I also don't mind an SMT package and I don't mind if the temperature vs frequency change is a little higher than more expensive crystals (as long as it's not way out of whack).

Is there any interest in a group buy of 'experimenter grade' crystals??? If so, what price is minimally acceptable and what frequencies would you order if someone was willing to coordinate a group buy?

Ragards,

Art


Re: Files area access

KY1K
 

I did manage to fix the problem, after more than a few years of trying!

A big thanks goes to Dave, W5DHM.

Dave sent me Tony's latest softrock schematic and advised me he has no problems accessing the files area, but that he has a yahoo email account.

So rather than buck the system, I decided to join it. I now have an anonymous yahoo email account and find that I can access any of the yahoo groups file areas without a problem IF I I click on the link from the yahoo email page if the message has been received and opened via the yahoo email webpage. Clearly yahoo wants you to use yahoo email to read yahoo email groups...I'm only to happy to oblige.

It's not a perfect solution and I feel like having to set up a dummy yahoo email account just to get files area access shouldn't be necessary. But, yahoo makes the rules, not me. So, I don't feel too bad about going along for ride.

Anyone who has a similar problem can solve it in the same manner, write me OFF-LIST if you have questions.

Art

?At 10:56 PM 10/19/2005, you wrote:

How do I get to the files area? I've never been able to get to any files area on Yahoo more than once, and I have no idea why. I've written to yahoo 3 times in the last year and have received no reply from them.

I belong to the LTSpice group and this group, which is very important to me. But the files area remains closed to me and unavailable.

If I sign up for a new yahoo account and jump through the hoops, I get access to one groups files area, but only once. Within 24 hours, it prompts me for the password (again) and then tells me it isn't valid (again), and I have to go through the process? of registering (again) under a different name.......and the loop repeats, over and over.

I've even tried getting a throw away email account just to subscribe to yahoo email groups, but somehow yahoo knows I receive email from multiple groups on different email accounts, and all access is gone (again) within 24 hours.

I'd really like to have access to the files area, but it doesn't work (for me). If someone would send me a copy of the new softrock schematic, I'd appreciate it.

Forgive me if access to the files area is off-topic.....but I keep seeing people post to the files area and I'd like to see the files!

Thanks,

Art



At 09:20 PM 10/19/2005, you wrote:

Good Evening All,

I have modified the v5.0 schematic and posted it for comment.

It looks like each board of the v5.0 two board stack will be 1.1
inches by 1.6 inches.? Layout is coming along pretty well and I should
be able to post the board artwork by this weekend.

73,
Tony KB9YIG


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Re: SharpDSP Mini Console with Analog Meter

Bruce Beford
 

Very Cool! Thanks Phil!

73,
Bruce N1RX

--- In softrock40@..., "Phil Covington" <p.covington@g...>
wrote:

Hi Eric,

Beppe IK3VIG sent me a really nice meter face. I uploaded the new
version to my website today. You can see a screen shot there.

73 de Phil N8VB


Re: SharpDSP Mini Console with Analog Meter

 

Hi Eric,

Beppe IK3VIG sent me a really nice meter face. I uploaded the new
version to my website today. You can see a screen shot there.

73 de Phil N8VB

--- In softrock40@..., EricJ <eric_ke6us@y...> wrote:

The analog meter is a beautiful addition to the
Console, Phil. With SDR's we can, once again, enjoy
the beauty and utility of analog meters since they are
essentially free. I hope more designers treat us to
these visual delights instead of the ugliness of
computer rendered LED bargraphs which were used in
hardware radios for economic reasons.

Eric
KE6US
www.ke6us.com

--- Phil Covington <p.covington@g...> wrote:

Hi all,

I just posted a new version of the SharpDSP Mini
Console for the
SoftRock 40 to my website at:



Please see my Blog entry for 10-19-2005 for details
about this release:



The default meter face supplied is not calibrated,
it is included for
demonstration.

73 de Phil N8VB





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Rocky 1.06

 

Rocky 1.06 addresses the distorted sound and no IQ balance problem with some sound cards. It should also work with Windows ME.

73 Alex VE3NEA


Re: Rocky 1.05 released

 

Alex,

It looks like Rocky 1.05 now runs on my PC. But there appears to be some kind of strange feedback problem when I play the wav file. Hard to describe. But at least it runs now. Will look into the other problem later.

Thanks,

Bill WB5TCO

Alex, VE3NEA wrote:

Rocky 1.05 is now available. I significantly re-worked the WDM part of the program. The new version may solve the remaining problems, or it may not work for you at all - make a backup copy of your old version before installing 1.05.

73 Alex VE3NEA



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Files area access

KY1K
 

How do I get to the files area? I've never been able to get to any files area on Yahoo more than once, and I have no idea why. I've written to yahoo 3 times in the last year and have received no reply from them.

I belong to the LTSpice group and this group, which is very important to me. But the files area remains closed to me and unavailable.

If I sign up for a new yahoo account and jump through the hoops, I get access to one groups files area, but only once. Within 24 hours, it prompts me for the password (again) and then tells me it isn't valid (again), and I have to go through the process? of registering (again) under a different name.......and the loop repeats, over and over.

I've even tried getting a throw away email account just to subscribe to yahoo email groups, but somehow yahoo knows I receive email from multiple groups on different email accounts, and all access is gone (again) within 24 hours.

I'd really like to have access to the files area, but it doesn't work (for me). If someone would send me a copy of the new softrock schematic, I'd appreciate it.

Forgive me if access to the files area is off-topic.....but I keep seeing people post to the files area and I'd like to see the files!

Thanks,

Art



At 09:20 PM 10/19/2005, you wrote:

Good Evening All,

I have modified the v5.0 schematic and posted it for comment.

It looks like each board of the v5.0 two board stack will be 1.1
inches by 1.6 inches.? Layout is coming along pretty well and I should
be able to post the board artwork by this weekend.

73,
Tony KB9YIG