Re: Anything new in Small Layouts?
Something new, at least, as far as I know is an Ikea shelf. There used to be a shelf, approximately 4'x1' that you could buy from Ikea that had drawers inside. It was discontinued, but I was at Ikea this week, and noticed they have another one.
The original shelf was raw wood, I believe, but still... I think this might make a great platform for a micro layout--Inglenook or Timesaver and such, as it even includes storage for rolling stock, power, etc. :-)
You can even buy it in a set with legs:
I believe I shall be buying this, and moving my Highland Terminal layout to it:
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Re: Anything new in Small Layouts?
Very nice work Tom. Thanks for sharing,
Bill Uffelman
On Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 7:44:54 PM EDT, thomasknapp@... [small-layout-design] wrote:
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Ed & others, The past year has been very busy constructing and showing a modular Nn3 layout based on the Caspar, South Fork & Eastern Railroad. (I know, it was standard gauge, but that¡¯s modeler¡¯s license for you!) Joe DuVivier of our NorCal Nn3 group had already constructed a diorama of Jughandle Trestle on the Caspar. After he and I attended the Pacific Model Loggers¡¯ Congress meeting at Camp 18, and hearing a clinic by Jim Sabol titled ¡°Timber to Tidewater¡± we both had the idea of creating a layout showing scenes from a typical logging operation as a series of linked ¡°cameo¡± layouts (see Ian Rice¡¯s book on cameo layouts.) While the layout will eventually incorporate scenes from a ¡°landing¡± all the way to the sawmill at the confluence of Caspar Creek and the Pacific Ocean, it now includes three scenes: the Landing, the Camp and Jughandle Trestle. I built the Camp and Landing scenes between March and August 2017 and we took the layout to Denver to the National Narrow Gauge Convention (where they stuck us on a mezzanine on the other end of the convention center form the rest of the modular layouts.) Since then the layout or my two parts of it have been set up at three other events. The lighting concept developed by Joe to create strong shadows and first tried in Denver (in a temporary lash-up under an EZ-UP canopy) was so successful that we have subsequently incorporated it in ¡°lids¡± that fit over each cameo scene. The Camp and Landing sections can be set up together and operated as a layout separate from Jughandle Trestle, or individually as a stand-alone ¡°cameo¡± layout. Each is based on a four-foot long ¡°standard¡± 12¡± wide Nn3 module, widened at the center to accommodate specific scenic features. Either one or both will fit in the back seat of my car, with the ancillaries in the trunk. I tried several times to create a photo album and upload photos to our Yahoo Group site, but with no avail (even though I have successfully created three albums there in the past.) I finally gave up and have uploaded them to the Nikon photo sharing web site at: This album includes some plans and figures illustrating the concepts used. I hope you enjoy these. If we ever get any of the ¡°small layout¡± group together in northern California, I can bring one or both of the scenes I have. ?
From: small-layout-design@... Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:45 PM To: small-layout-design@... Subject: Re: [small-layout-design] Anything new in Small Layouts? ? ? I am always interested in what you are doing. I am working on an HO standard gauge shelf layout that is 12 feet long and 20 inches deep. One end is a car ferry slip using the Inglenook Sidings design. That only takes up about 3 feet so the rest will be more short sidings that can be worked from the same direction so no run-around track is needed. I've always been interested in the Cross Harbor Railroad in New York. I have watched a video of their operations many times and I am always fascinated. I could load a small layout into my Toyota Sienna minivan but then I would need to stand and operate it all day and I am not up to that. But I will be there in Sacramento for sure. Just look for my yellow shirt. Darryl Huffman You can follow my model building career on my blog at: Remember, without closets, model manufacturers would never be profitable. ?
Anybody building anything this Spring???
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Re: Anything new in Small Layouts?
Ed & others, The past year has been very busy constructing and showing a modular Nn3 layout based on the Caspar, South Fork & Eastern Railroad. (I know, it was standard gauge, but that¡¯s modeler¡¯s license for you!) Joe DuVivier of our NorCal Nn3 group had already constructed a diorama of Jughandle Trestle on the Caspar. After he and I attended the Pacific Model Loggers¡¯ Congress meeting at Camp 18, and hearing a clinic by Jim Sabol titled ¡°Timber to Tidewater¡± we both had the idea of creating a layout showing scenes from a typical logging operation as a series of linked ¡°cameo¡± layouts (see Ian Rice¡¯s book on cameo layouts.) While the layout will eventually incorporate scenes from a ¡°landing¡± all the way to the sawmill at the confluence of Caspar Creek and the Pacific Ocean, it now includes three scenes: the Landing, the Camp and Jughandle Trestle. I built the Camp and Landing scenes between March and August 2017 and we took the layout to Denver to the National Narrow Gauge Convention (where they stuck us on a mezzanine on the other end of the convention center form the rest of the modular layouts.) Since then the layout or my two parts of it have been set up at three other events. The lighting concept developed by Joe to create strong shadows and first tried in Denver (in a temporary lash-up under an EZ-UP canopy) was so successful that we have subsequently incorporated it in ¡°lids¡± that fit over each cameo scene. The Camp and Landing sections can be set up together and operated as a layout separate from Jughandle Trestle, or individually as a stand-alone ¡°cameo¡± layout. Each is based on a four-foot long ¡°standard¡± 12¡± wide Nn3 module, widened at the center to accommodate specific scenic features. Either one or both will fit in the back seat of my car, with the ancillaries in the trunk. I tried several times to create a photo album and upload photos to our Yahoo Group site, but with no avail (even though I have successfully created three albums there in the past.) I finally gave up and have uploaded them to the Nikon photo sharing web site at: This album includes some plans and figures illustrating the concepts used. I hope you enjoy these. If we ever get any of the ¡°small layout¡± group together in northern California, I can bring one or both of the scenes I have. ?
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From: small-layout-design@... Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:45 PM To: small-layout-design@... Subject: Re: [small-layout-design] Anything new in Small Layouts? ? ? I am always interested in what you are doing. I am working on an HO standard gauge shelf layout that is 12 feet long and 20 inches deep. One end is a car ferry slip using the Inglenook Sidings design. That only takes up about 3 feet so the rest will be more short sidings that can be worked from the same direction so no run-around track is needed. I've always been interested in the Cross Harbor Railroad in New York. I have watched a video of their operations many times and I am always fascinated. I could load a small layout into my Toyota Sienna minivan but then I would need to stand and operate it all day and I am not up to that. But I will be there in Sacramento for sure. Just look for my yellow shirt. Darryl Huffman You can follow my model building career on my blog at: Remember, without closets, model manufacturers would never be profitable. ?
Anybody building anything this Spring???
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Re: Anything new in Small Layouts?
Always interested in what others are doing with small layouts.? I have three of them - two 2'x2' and one 2'x4'.? I'm re-doing much of the larger one.? Maybe I'll try to show one or two at the 2019 event.? David P.?
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Re: Anything new in Small Layouts?
I'm always interested in what other modelers are doing. I started a small layout but have been real slow about working on it. To many projects and not enough time - and here in MI it's spring time yard/garage cleanup and that just eats up time.
Ron
SMRR
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 1:08 AM, 23.weldon@... [small-layout-design] <small-layout-design@...> wrote:
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Anybody building anything this Spring?? We have a Narrow Gauge Convention in Sacramento CA next year (2019) and I am working on an HOn3 layout that I hope to be able to take there and display.? Two module pieces each 46" x 73" (maximum I can fit into my old Toyota pickup and still close the tailgate and shell door).? Anybody interested in what I'm doing here?? Or is the large size and my related problems to solve because of my self-imposed size restriction something of minimal interest in this group?
Ed Weldon
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Re: Anything new in Small Layouts?
Ed,
I am always interested in what you are doing.
I am working on an HO standard gauge shelf layout that is 12 feet long and 20 inches deep.
One end is a car ferry slip using the Inglenook Sidings design.
That only takes up about 3 feet so the rest will be more short sidings that can be worked from the same direction so no run-around track is needed.
I've always been interested in the Cross Harbor Railroad in New York.
I have watched a video of their operations many times and I am always fascinated.
I could load a small layout into my Toyota Sienna minivan but then I would need to stand and operate it all day and I am not up to that.
But I will be there in Sacramento for sure.
Just look for my yellow shirt. ? Darryl Huffman darrylhuffman@...
You can follow my model building career on my blog at:
http://ghosttownmodels.blogspot.com/
Remember, without closets, model manufacturers would never be profitable.
From: "23.weldon@... [small-layout-design]"
To: small-layout-design@...
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 11:08 PM
Subject: [small-layout-design] Anything new in Small Layouts?
Anybody building anything this Spring???
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Re: Anything new in Small Layouts?
Hi Ed
I am interested in your project, I hope to do something similar but not quite as large a sections to take to local shows. I am very interested in how to build the bases and scenery, needs to be lightweight.
Ian
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On 5/1/2018 12:08 AM, 23.weldon@... [small-layout-design] wrote: Anybody building anything this Spring?? We have a Narrow Gauge Convention in Sacramento CA next year (2019) and I am working on an HOn3 layout that I hope to be able to take there and display.? Two module pieces each 46" x 73" (maximum I can fit into my old Toyota pickup and still close the tailgate and shell door).? Anybody interested in what I'm doing here?? Or is the large size and my related problems to solve because of my self-imposed size restriction something of minimal interest in this group?
Ed Weldon
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Anything new in Small Layouts?
Anybody building anything this Spring?? We have a Narrow Gauge Convention in Sacramento CA next year (2019) and I am working on an HOn3 layout that I hope to be able to take there and display.? Two module pieces each 46" x 73" (maximum I can fit into my old Toyota pickup and still close the tailgate and shell door).? Anybody interested in what I'm doing here?? Or is the large size and my related problems to solve because of my self-imposed size restriction something of minimal interest in this group? Ed Weldon
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Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
I have heard but can not verify that Verizon intends to fold both Yahoo (keeping their 15% of Alibaba) and AOL. Again, this is unverified. Tom K.
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You take it wrong. Yahoo is closing nothing down.
However Yahoo¡¯s support has been getting worse, and are doing it better. A number of lists have moved successfull, including several I subscribe to.
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Not sure exactly what's going on but I take it Yahoo is closing down their "Groups" service... Bummer. Just like when they closed down Geocities a few years back.
I had a web site on Geocities and it was the easiest hosting site to use. The file manager was easy to use and the amount of free space available was more than enough for me. I've tried recreating it on a couple other hosting sites but they were just to complicated/confusing to use.
I was also a member of another Yahoo group that existed when this was still "Onelist" 20+ years ago before Yahoo ended up buying it and making it Yahoo Groups.
Why can't people leave a good thing alone????
Gene
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Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
You take it wrong. Yahoo is closing nothing down.
However Yahoo¡¯s support has been getting worse, and are doing it better. A number of lists have moved successfull, including several I subscribe to.
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Not sure exactly what's going on but I take it Yahoo is closing down their "Groups" service... Bummer. Just like when they closed down Geocities a few years back.
I had a web site on Geocities and it was the easiest hosting site to use. The file manager was easy to use and the amount of free space available was more than enough for me. I've tried recreating it on a couple other hosting sites but they were just to complicated/confusing to use.
I was also a member of another Yahoo group that existed when this was still "Onelist" 20+ years ago before Yahoo ended up buying it and making it Yahoo Groups.
Why can't people leave a good thing alone????
Gene
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Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
Not sure exactly what's going on but I take it Yahoo is closing down their "Groups" service... Bummer. Just like when they closed down Geocities a few years back.
I had a web site on Geocities and it was the easiest hosting site to use. The file manager was easy to use and the amount of free space available was more than enough for me. I've tried recreating it on a couple other hosting sites but they were just to complicated/confusing to use.
I was also a member of another Yahoo group that existed when this was still "Onelist" 20+ years ago before Yahoo ended up buying it and making it Yahoo Groups.
Why can't people leave a good thing alone????
Gene
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On 24 April 2018 at 09:57, mrstuff@... [small-layout-design] <small-layout-design@...> wrote: Everyone also needs to realize that the Yahoo name is going away. There is a new owner and they have announced that AOL
and Yahoo will cease to exist in the very near future. Although they have claimed the groups will continue, I do not see how a
free service fits with the new company that needs to make money. If "neo" is anything to go by, there will be another failed attempt to turn it into social media. Cheers David
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Everyone also needs to realize that the Yahoo name is going away. There is a new owner and they have announced that AOL and Yahoo will cease to exist in the very near future. Although they have claimed the groups will continue, I do not see how a free service fits with the new company that needs to make money.
I know people do not like change but you have a new landlord and they are changing the lease and may raise the rent (if they do not tear it down for more luxury stuff).
Marshall Stull www.smallmr.com ---In small-layout-design@..., <labl02@...> wrote : On 04/23/2018 11:49 AM, foxalljay@... [small-layout-design] wrote: > Enough witith the "move to groups.io. I quit!
That's certainly your prerogative. But before you do, log on to Yahoo
and read the new policies imposed by the new owner. I think you'll see
much of the reason people want to switch. And that's without the slowly
degrading service from Yahoo. I get my stuff as individual emails, so I
don't see some of that, but the privacy changes were enough to convince me.
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Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
I seriously suggest nothing be left behind unless you want to lose it. I honestly believe the Yahoo name will disappear very soon and so will a lot of information.
The move cannot happen soon enough.
Marshall Stull www.smallmr.com ---In small-layout-design@..., <wilsonbrucea@...> wrote : One problem with a potential transfer is the size of the photos
section on the main yahoops group exceeds the new combined? limit
of 1 GB for files and photos on groups.io.? If a move is to be
made the admin department would have to try and split the photos
into several groups or go through and resize all of the photos to
get the size down.? Currently there are about 93MB of files. Now a problem with trying to manipulate the photos is that
currently yahoops is having one of its moods and we can't access
the photos to move or download them.? The only thing we can do is
look at them. (All the more reason to deeps six yahoops) It would be/is possible to transfer the group without the photos
and then lock this group down so no further posting is allowed so
it could serve as an archive for the photos.
Bruce Wilson
Moderating Team
On 4/20/2018 13:19,
genetk44@... [small-layout-design] wrote:
I assume no move has been made due to the fact that I have seen no
notification of such a move.
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On 04/23/2018 11:49 AM, foxalljay@... [small-layout-design] wrote: Enough witith the "move to groups.io. I quit! That's certainly your prerogative. But before you do, log on to Yahoo and read the new policies imposed by the new owner. I think you'll see much of the reason people want to switch. And that's without the slowly degrading service from Yahoo. I get my stuff as individual emails, so I don't see some of that, but the privacy changes were enough to convince me.
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Enough witith the "move to groups.io.??? I quit!
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Another group I am in made the move and I got an email from the group, informing the move was done with an email address to which I can easily reply. I hope to get the same from this group when the move is made.
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David A. Petersen
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Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
Exactly what Tom K. Just said. Groups io. Is a real pleasure to use compared to the dogs-breakfast that Yahoo groups have become( thanks to Yahoo managements meddleing)
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Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
What if I missed the announcement? I clicked the link but cannot find the group?
Thanks.
Phil
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:09:06 PM
To: 'David Bromage david@... [small-layout-design]'
Cc: thomasknapp@...
Subject: RE: [small-layout-design] Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
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PS: The move left a copy of all our photos, drawings and other files on Yahoo.
Tom K.
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From: Thomas Knapp
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:47 AM
To: David Bromage david@... [small-layout-design]
Subject: Re: [small-layout-design] Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
You don¡¯t have to ¡°do¡± anything if the group is migrated to Groups.io After the moderator moves the group, you would obtain a notification/invitation to the group. Your user name and password would not change. Files and folders would move automatically as well.
Another group I am a member of made the move and it was seamless. The new group site is much easier to use. The group did opt for a ¡° premium¡± membership with greater storage which involved a very nominal charge, which is being underwritten by one of the group
members, so none of the other 900 members pays anything.
Tom K.
> On Apr 22, 2018, at 3:41 AM, David Bromage david@... [small-layout-design] wrote:
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> On 22 April 2018 at 17:29, 'owner' 2-1@...
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>> Can somebody please tell me what Groups.io is, why we have to move to it, whatever it is, and if I want to stay with this group what I have to do (and how do I do it) to make the change?
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> groups.io
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Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files)
PS: The move left a copy of all our photos, drawings and other files on Yahoo.
Tom K.
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-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Knapp <thomasknapp@...> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:47 AM To: David Bromage david@... [small-layout-design] <small-layout-design@...> Subject: Re: [small-layout-design] Re: Move to groups.io (was: Re: Files) You don¡¯t have to ¡°do¡± anything if the group is migrated to Groups.io After the moderator moves the group, you would obtain a notification/invitation to the group. Your user name and password would not change. Files and folders would move automatically as well. Another group I am a member of made the move and it was seamless. The new group site is much easier to use. The group did opt for a ¡° premium¡± membership with greater storage which involved a very nominal charge, which is being underwritten by one of the group members, so none of the other 900 members pays anything. Tom K. On Apr 22, 2018, at 3:41 AM, David Bromage david@... [small-layout-design] <small-layout-design@...> wrote:
On 22 April 2018 at 17:29, 'owner' 2-1@...
[small-layout-design] <small-layout-design@...> wrote:
Can somebody please tell me what Groups.io is, why we have to move to it, whatever it is, and if I want to stay with this group what I have to do (and how do I do it) to make the change? groups.io
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