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Hi all, ? I am running an Arcom rc210 repeater controller at a tower site that has no phone line, and I don’t want to pay for one. ? Is there a way to use a data package from an ISP over the cellular network to connect to the autopatch and controller? ? This is a fairly new venture for me so I have no clue how to make this work. ? I suppose I could use Magic Jack, but would I need a router to connect to the Cellular network then hardwire into the controller? ? Thanks, ? Chad WI9HF
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Verizon makes a cellular to landline adapter, I thought it was something like $49 for the device and then it just used your current cellular plan.? Have one at a site now and works good, even has a built in battery backup.
I'd imagine AT&T has something similar.
Hi all, ? I am running an Arcom rc210 repeater controller at a tower site that has no phone line, and I don’t want to pay for one. ? Is there a way to use a data package from an ISP over the cellular network to connect to the autopatch and controller? ? This is a fairly new venture for me so I have no clue how to make this work. ? I suppose I could use Magic Jack, but would I need a router to connect to the Cellular network then hardwire into the controller? ? Thanks, ? Chad WI9HF
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ATT does have a special tarrif for amateur radio use...if you have a repeater at a commercial tower, you can get residential rate on the phone line and Internet service if it's copper. Of course ATT wants to sunset copper by 2030 so that could change. I did it at a local club station....phone and 3mb DSL for $15/month..granted that was back in 2008...but it's much cheaper than commercial rates
Might want to check into it...ATT Texas did it...not sure if their other states did but they should
Chris WB5ITT?
Verizon makes a cellular to landline adapter, I thought it was something like $49 for the device and then it just used your current cellular plan.? Have one at a site now and works good, even has a built in battery backup.
I'd imagine AT&T has something similar.
Hi all, ? I am running an Arcom rc210 repeater controller at a tower site that has no phone line, and I don’t want to pay for one. ? Is there a way to use a data package from an ISP over the cellular network to connect to the autopatch and controller? ? This is a fairly new venture for me so I have no clue how to make this work. ? I suppose I could use Magic Jack, but would I need a router to connect to the Cellular network then hardwire into the controller? ? Thanks, ? Chad WI9HF
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I use a Grandstream (brand)? "box" for my second line.? It's on my network (LAN), hence, internet. It plays well with my other devices on my LAN as well.? So, from IP to a POTS line loop start, like we had in the 1960's. Your ISP could set it up for access to the PSTN.
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To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at?
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Many cell phone carriers have a plan to "add" a line for $10/month if you already have service.? Some do have phone to cell interface, might have to buy it.? Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.? Check yur cell service.
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73, ron, n9ee
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Hi, I'm getting an AT&T US cellular to home phone interface box which probably would work, connect to the phone via Bluetooth. Someone at Walmart in the electronics department who was associated with their cell phone service says I don't want to keep a cell phone plugged in indefinitely because it could blow up the battery or start a fire. Because this is going to be at a remote tower site that I don't really have access to every day. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Janesville Wisconsin 608-754-8671 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
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On Mar 4, 2025, at 5:31?PM, Ron Wright via groups.io <lt_wright_flg@...> wrote:
? Many cell phone carriers have a plan to "add" a line for $10/month if you already have service.? Some do have phone to cell interface, might have to buy it.? Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.? Check yur cell service.
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73, ron, n9ee
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Verizon LVP2 might be an option
On 3/4/2025 6:38 PM, Chad Nelson wrote:
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Hi, I'm getting an AT&T US cellular to home phone interface
box which probably would work, connect to the phone via Bluetooth.
Someone at Walmart in the electronics department who was
associated with their cell phone service says I don't want to keep
a cell phone plugged in indefinitely because it could blow up the
battery or start a fire. Because this is going to be at a remote
tower site that I don't really have access to every day.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
Many cell phone carriers have a plan to "add" a line for
$10/month if you already have service.? Some do have phone
to cell interface, might have to buy it.? Just plug the RG11
from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.?
Check yur cell service.
?
73, ron, n9ee
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Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.
73, ron, n9ee I think you meant RJ11...unless you live in some far away galaxy where the telco serves POTS on 75 ohm coax? ? --- Jeff WN3A
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If you have internet access on site,?
will serve you a phone line that you can use with a simple ATA like the Grandstream ht801 for a ridicule price of 90 cent for the telephone number per month and half a cent per minute of usage?of the line.? here is the total pricing
Starting at $ 0.0052 / min $ 0.009 / min ? Call Recording? $ 0.0025 / min $ 0.0025 / min Call Transcriptions? $ 0.05 / min $ 0.05 / min CNAM Query? N/A $ 0.008 / call Directory Assistance (411)? $ 0.99 / call N/A Voicemail Transcription? N/A $ 0.05 / min
A local call is anywhere in the USA/Canada/Mexico.?
You can also control by the dashboard what phone number can be reached or limit a lot of stuff.?
A used ATA can go for as less as 5$. You can connect any phone device on those line be it a fax, a modem, a repeater.?
Or you can go with a contract of 5$ a month for illimited call.?
If you want to use my referal?link you can have a nice credit and me also.. If not, I dont?care!!
Pierre VE2PF
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 11:15?PM Chad Nelson via <chad.nelson71= [email protected]> wrote: Hi all, ? I am running an Arcom rc210 repeater controller at a tower site that has no phone line, and I don’t want to pay for one. ? Is there a way to use a data package from an ISP over the cellular network to connect to the autopatch and controller? ? This is a fairly new venture for me so I have no clue how to make this work. ? I suppose I could use Magic Jack, but would I need a router to connect to the Cellular network then hardwire into the controller? ? Thanks, ? Chad WI9HF
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Wow, quite a bit of good ideas here, almost gets overwhelming to know which one to choose lol. If that one device, the ADA that Pierre was talking about sounds like that doesn't use the Internet, but there's no Internet at the site, that would be another expense. My main concern is if I use The ?cellular to landline converter, I'd have to use a cell phone and leaving the charger plugged in 100% of the time for months on end bothers me if it would explode the battery. Any thoughts about that? My thought is plug the charger cord into a light timer and have it timed the charge up for a few hours in the evening and shut off. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Janesville Wisconsin 608-754-8671 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
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On Mar 4, 2025, at 5:49?PM, M Flynn via groups.io <maflynn@...> wrote:
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Verizon LVP2 might be an option
On 3/4/2025 6:38 PM, Chad Nelson wrote:
Hi, I'm getting an AT&T US cellular to home phone interface
box which probably would work, connect to the phone via Bluetooth.
Someone at Walmart in the electronics department who was
associated with their cell phone service says I don't want to keep
a cell phone plugged in indefinitely because it could blow up the
battery or start a fire. Because this is going to be at a remote
tower site that I don't really have access to every day.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
Many cell phone carriers have a plan to "add" a line for
$10/month if you already have service.? Some do have phone
to cell interface, might have to buy it.? Just plug the RG11
from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.?
Check yur cell service.
?
73, ron, n9ee
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Chad,
the LVP2 is actually a cellphone with an RJ-11 jack for analog
phones.??
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It's designed to be powered on 7/24
Only downside is if your repeater controller is expecting an open
loop or CPC when the far end hangs up (CPC)?? - this boxes does
not generate CPC or an open loop.??
Buy a used one from eBAY and a pre-paid SIM to test it.
73
Martin
W2RWJ
On 3/4/2025 7:16 PM, Chad Nelson wrote:
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Wow, quite a bit of good ideas here, almost gets overwhelming to
know which one to choose lol. If that one device, the ADA that
Pierre was talking about sounds like that doesn't use the
Internet, but there's no Internet at the site, that would be
another expense. My main concern is if I use The ?cellular to
landline converter, I'd have to use a cell phone and leaving the
charger plugged in 100% of the time for months on end bothers me
if it would explode the battery. Any thoughts about that? My
thought is plug the charger cord into a light timer and have it
timed the charge up for a few hours in the evening and shut off.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On Mar 4, 2025, at 5:49?PM, M Flynn via
groups.io <maflynn@...> wrote:
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Verizon LVP2 might be an option
On 3/4/2025 6:38 PM, Chad Nelson
wrote:
Hi, I'm getting an AT&T US cellular to home phone
interface box which probably would work, connect to the
phone via Bluetooth. Someone at Walmart in the electronics
department who was associated with their cell phone service
says I don't want to keep a cell phone plugged in
indefinitely because it could blow up the battery or start a
fire. Because this is going to be at a remote tower site
that I don't really have access to every day.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
Many cell phone carriers have a plan to "add" a
line for $10/month if you already have service.? Some
do have phone to cell interface, might have to buy
it.? Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the
box and can make phone calls.? Check yur cell service.
?
73, ron, n9ee
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Do I need a Vorizon account? Or can this be unlocked to work with Spectrum? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of M Flynn via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 6:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] running autopatch? Chad, the LVP2 is actually a cellphone with an RJ-11 jack for analog phones.?? ? It's designed to be powered on 7/24 Only downside is if your repeater controller is expecting an open loop or CPC when the far end hangs up (CPC)?? - this boxes does not generate CPC or an open loop.?? Buy a used one from eBAY and a pre-paid SIM to test it. 73 Martin W2RWJ ? ? On 3/4/2025 7:16 PM, Chad Nelson wrote: Wow, quite a bit of good ideas here, almost gets overwhelming to know which one to choose lol. If that one device, the ADA that Pierre was talking about sounds like that doesn't use the Internet, but there's no Internet at the site, that would be another expense. My main concern is if I use The ?cellular to landline converter, I'd have to use a cell phone and leaving the charger plugged in 100% of the time for months on end bothers me if it would explode the battery. Any thoughts about that? My thought is plug the charger cord into a light timer and have it timed the charge up for a few hours in the evening and shut off. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On Mar 4, 2025, at 5:49?PM, M Flynn via groups.io <maflynn@...> wrote:
? Verizon LVP2 might be an option On 3/4/2025 6:38 PM, Chad Nelson wrote: Hi, I'm getting an AT&T US cellular to home phone interface box which probably would work, connect to the phone via Bluetooth. Someone at Walmart in the electronics department who was associated with their cell phone service says I don't want to keep a cell phone plugged in indefinitely because it could blow up the battery or start a fire. Because this is going to be at a remote tower site that I don't really have access to every day. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16. Many cell phone carriers have a plan to "add" a line for $10/month if you already have service.? Some do have phone to cell interface, might have to buy it.? Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.? Check yur cell service.
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I am using an arcom rc210 so not sure what that autopatch is looking for. Ken are you able to pitch in? ? Chad ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of M Flynn via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 6:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] running autopatch? Chad, the LVP2 is actually a cellphone with an RJ-11 jack for analog phones.?? ? It's designed to be powered on 7/24 Only downside is if your repeater controller is expecting an open loop or CPC when the far end hangs up (CPC)?? - this boxes does not generate CPC or an open loop.?? Buy a used one from eBAY and a pre-paid SIM to test it. 73 Martin W2RWJ ? ? On 3/4/2025 7:16 PM, Chad Nelson wrote: Wow, quite a bit of good ideas here, almost gets overwhelming to know which one to choose lol. If that one device, the ADA that Pierre was talking about sounds like that doesn't use the Internet, but there's no Internet at the site, that would be another expense. My main concern is if I use The ?cellular to landline converter, I'd have to use a cell phone and leaving the charger plugged in 100% of the time for months on end bothers me if it would explode the battery. Any thoughts about that? My thought is plug the charger cord into a light timer and have it timed the charge up for a few hours in the evening and shut off. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On Mar 4, 2025, at 5:49?PM, M Flynn via groups.io <maflynn@...> wrote:
? Verizon LVP2 might be an option On 3/4/2025 6:38 PM, Chad Nelson wrote: Hi, I'm getting an AT&T US cellular to home phone interface box which probably would work, connect to the phone via Bluetooth. Someone at Walmart in the electronics department who was associated with their cell phone service says I don't want to keep a cell phone plugged in indefinitely because it could blow up the battery or start a fire. Because this is going to be at a remote tower site that I don't really have access to every day. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16. Many cell phone carriers have a plan to "add" a line for $10/month if you already have service.? Some do have phone to cell interface, might have to buy it.? Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.? Check yur cell service.
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This unit is Verizon Only
On 3/4/2025 9:06 PM, Chad Nelson wrote:
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Do I
need a Vorizon account? Or can this be unlocked to work with
Spectrum?
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Chad,
the LVP2 is actually a cellphone with an RJ-11 jack for
analog phones.?? ?
It's designed to be powered on 7/24
Only downside is if your repeater controller is expecting an
open loop or CPC when the far end hangs up (CPC)?? - this
boxes does not generate CPC or an open loop.??
Buy a used one from eBAY and a pre-paid SIM to test it.
73
Martin
W2RWJ
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On 3/4/2025 7:16 PM, Chad Nelson wrote:
Wow, quite a bit of good ideas here,
almost gets overwhelming to know which one to choose lol. If
that one device, the ADA that Pierre was talking about
sounds like that doesn't use the Internet, but there's no
Internet at the site, that would be another expense. My main
concern is if I use The ?cellular to landline converter, I'd
have to use a cell phone and leaving the charger plugged in
100% of the time for months on end bothers me if it would
explode the battery. Any thoughts about that? My thought is
plug the charger cord into a light timer and have it timed
the charge up for a few hours in the evening and shut off.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On Mar
4, 2025, at 5:49?PM,
M Flynn via groups.io <maflynn@...>
wrote:
?
Verizon LVP2 might be an option
On 3/4/2025 6:38 PM, Chad Nelson
wrote:
Hi, I'm getting an AT&T US
cellular to home phone interface box which probably
would work, connect to the phone via Bluetooth.
Someone at Walmart in the electronics department who
was associated with their cell phone service says I
don't want to keep a cell phone plugged in
indefinitely because it could blow up the battery or
start a fire. Because this is going to be at a remote
tower site that I don't really have access to every
day.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Send from my spectrum iPhone
16.
Many cell phone carriers have
a plan to "add" a line for $10/month if you
already have service.? Some do have phone to
cell interface, might have to buy it.? Just plug
the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and
can make phone calls.? Check yur cell service.
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Ok I will need to call them and see if they can tell me how much that service is. I called them the other day and the agent said they didn’t have anything like this. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of M Flynn via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 8:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] running autopatch? This unit is Verizon Only On 3/4/2025 9:06 PM, Chad Nelson wrote: Do I need a Vorizon account? Or can this be unlocked to work with Spectrum? ? ? Chad, the LVP2 is actually a cellphone with an RJ-11 jack for analog phones.?? ? It's designed to be powered on 7/24 Only downside is if your repeater controller is expecting an open loop or CPC when the far end hangs up (CPC)?? - this boxes does not generate CPC or an open loop.?? Buy a used one from eBAY and a pre-paid SIM to test it. 73 Martin W2RWJ ? ? On 3/4/2025 7:16 PM, Chad Nelson wrote: Wow, quite a bit of good ideas here, almost gets overwhelming to know which one to choose lol. If that one device, the ADA that Pierre was talking about sounds like that doesn't use the Internet, but there's no Internet at the site, that would be another expense. My main concern is if I use The ?cellular to landline converter, I'd have to use a cell phone and leaving the charger plugged in 100% of the time for months on end bothers me if it would explode the battery. Any thoughts about that? My thought is plug the charger cord into a light timer and have it timed the charge up for a few hours in the evening and shut off. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On Mar 4, 2025, at 5:49?PM, M Flynn via groups.io <maflynn@...> wrote:
? Verizon LVP2 might be an option On 3/4/2025 6:38 PM, Chad Nelson wrote: Hi, I'm getting an AT&T US cellular to home phone interface box which probably would work, connect to the phone via Bluetooth. Someone at Walmart in the electronics department who was associated with their cell phone service says I don't want to keep a cell phone plugged in indefinitely because it could blow up the battery or start a fire. Because this is going to be at a remote tower site that I don't really have access to every day. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16. Many cell phone carriers have a plan to "add" a line for $10/month if you already have service.? Some do have phone to cell interface, might have to buy it.? Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.? Check yur cell service.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. That'd be a hell of a try to put a RJ11 connector on RG11! ??
Oh well typos happen..
Chris WB5ITT?
> Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.?
> 73, ron, n9ee
I think you meant RJ11...unless you live in some far away galaxy where the telco serves POTS on 75 ohm coax?? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Boone WB5ITT via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 07:59
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] running autopatch ? Yeah I was thinking the same thing. That'd be a hell of a try to put a RJ11 connector on RG11! ?? ? > Just plug the RG11 from your autopatch into the box and can make phone calls.?
> 73, ron, n9ee
I think you meant RJ11...unless you live in some far away galaxy where the telco serves POTS on 75 ohm coax?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --- Jeff WN3A
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Please be aware that the Magic Jack does not provide CPC, Caller Party Control.? So, if the incoming caller hangs up the Magic Jack does not disconnect.? However, when the incoming caller hangs up the Magic Jack goes to an instant fast busy signal.
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We use a Magic Jack for our home phone.? Our answering contraption made by Panasonic recognizes the fast busy signal and automatically disconnects after about the sixth "burst" of the fast busy signal.
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One other thing about the Magic Jack; it does not pass TouchTone for more than about a quarter second, then mutes the tones.
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You might want to consider using an OOMA.? I believe it provides CPC.
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Burt, K6OQK
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CHAD Wrote:
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Chad WI9HF
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Thanks, Bert. I appreciate that. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Janesville Wisconsin 608-754-8671 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
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On Mar 7, 2025, at 11:20?AM, Burt K6OQK <biwa@...> wrote:
? Please be aware that the Magic Jack does not provide CPC, Caller Party Control.? So, if the incoming caller hangs up the Magic Jack does not disconnect.? However, when the incoming caller hangs up the Magic Jack goes to an instant fast busy signal.
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We use a Magic Jack for our home phone.? Our answering contraption made by Panasonic recognizes the fast busy signal and automatically disconnects after about the sixth "burst" of the fast busy signal.
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One other thing about the Magic Jack; it does not pass TouchTone for more than about a quarter second, then mutes the tones.
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You might want to consider using an OOMA.? I believe it provides CPC.
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Burt, K6OQK
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CHAD Wrote:
I suppose I could use Magic Jack, but would I need a router to connect to the Cellular network then hardwire into the controller?
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Thanks,
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Chad WI9HF
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I did not know the term was "magic jack". I was tought it was a ATA connection. I guess I missed all of that.
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Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at?
for the current email address.
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Chris Boone WB5ITT
Karl Shoemaker
Pierre Martel
Burt K6OQK