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Hello Chris and All,
My comments to Chris' opinions.

"CHRISTOPHER W. (Chris) BOONE" wrote:

Kevin,
I disagree with your comments below....

You are allowed to disagree....doesn't mean you're right.

1) the Repeater remailer (now at Onelist) was started for
just the reasons you state below...WHY duplicate things???
As a list user for many years (of the Original RptrOWN@...
and now Repeater@...), I find this a little confusing..

2) Denying those with Juno or similar email clients is IMHO
discrimination and without cause.....

Well some people who subscribe through Juno and other non html based
email systems can't receive html, images, and attachments. I am NOT
discriminating. They themselves are.. if they choose to use this type
email system. This is THEIR choice not mine. (BTW My page states SHOULD
NOT .....not DO NOT.) Should not is a suggestion, Do not is
discrimination. I do not feel my list is duplication.

3) Sending file attachments THROUGH a remailer is poor practice.
It doesn't help the server any! Thats why MOST remailers donot
allow it

Well.... the server I use DOES allow it. I conversed with the technical
team before I started this list. They had no problem.

.....take a 1 Meg file.....times 300 users....you get
the point!....the server then spends more time sending out files
and that can put a strain on the system......send a file
ONLY to those who want it...not the entire remailer!

Myself and others have sent pix and html through the server. I did not
hear anyone complain. If people would not have wanted or or liked this
style mailer, WHY do I have 62 subscribers in a mere 6 days?

True, Onelist is a commercial site but still setting up a remailer
to "hawk" web pages is just a waste of bandwidth..
thats what posting URL's on the current remailer is for...
sending entire web pages and other graphics is a waste of
bandwidth and time...

You are missing the point. What can I say?? You know your self that
running a mail server is work. I am not twisting anyone's arm to join.
If this mail server helps one person understand something about
repeaters, I'll feel better.

Another thing on Wasting the servers resources, The server I use does
NOT store the actual images and does NOT store the messages
indefinitely. That's why you should not join in the Digest mode. So...
if a person emails a couple of words and a picture to help some
understand a problem, what is then actually stored, (and tying up system
resources?) not much. Certainly a whole lot less than a thousand word
letter. I know myself that if I had a picture to send along with an
explanation, the person on the other end would have understood the
matter completely, and subsequent emailings would have been unnecessary.
Example: The deemphasis circuit, through a resistor and a cap to
ground. A small gif would eliminate any question.

Another point is the use of HTML in an email. This list I run allows the
use of html based email, and is another reason I started it. You are
bashing the use of images, or forwarding a web page in an email
posting, But you don't allow it on YOUR list. I believe you exact words
are "NO FILE ATTACHMENTS allowed..." now who's discriminating?

The use of html based email allows the use of emphasis on lettering and
so forth.

BTW there IS a Land Mobile Radio remailer on Onelist that has
been here for some time....it deals with commercial rptrs
and other systems....I find it interesting someone started a
twoway list...(another spliting of resources)..

Maybe they didn't like yours?

Also I bet you'll get no posting on the ACC list at Linkcomm
with your msg.....they don't like CC'ed mailings...

Oh well....

Just my $.02

Chris
WB5ITT

Thank you......
Kevin

PS, You ARE welcome to join.

Anybody on this list doing any trunking with ham repeaters?? If you are, what
kind of format are you using, controller, radios etc ?? the 900mhz band would
be the best band to do it, alot of commercial equipment out there for that
band..


Fred

dchall wrote:

Any chance that you have or are going to post the schematic for a
RS-12A? I have one that the smoke got out of. And I know from years of
experience that once the smoke gets out that repair is required. Thanks.

Dave Hall
N7ZPY
dchall@...

Dave, and All on the list,

Thanks to Rich Reese WA8DBW we now have an Astron RS-12A schematic. This new
page can be seen by going to the Astron page at
Click on the RS-12A link.

The RS-12A page goes to a printable jpg file. This file is a thumbnail and
has been reduced in color and size for printing. Click on the image for
clarification, and enlargement.

Kevin

JHowel@... wrote:

From: JHowel@...

In a message dated 2/19/99 18:27:51 Eastern Standard Time, kuggie@...
writes:

I'll check, Do you need for both transmit and receive? How many of each?
Any
particular frequency you are looking for?

I would need transmit and receive (a minimum of one set right now, though I
have a stack of the beasts and might eventually want to do something with the
lot). I'm making an attempt at building a 2-meter repeater out of two of
them.

I've heard from several people that, as long as there are not temperature
extremes, you don't need a channel element as the crystal will plug directly
into the radio without the element. Maybe I could build a "heater" using a
thermister -- I'll have to check my manual -- which I received in today's mail
-- and see.

Thanks.

I'll check and see if I can come up with some. If I don't reply about this in a
couple of days and you don't receive any other offers, Please remail (jog my
memory) My forgetter has been working overtime lately.

Kevin

Gang, I was asked to pass this information along. This information
originated from the owners of "Onelist. com" our list server.

Kevin

"Richard D. Reese" wrote:

From: "Richard D. Reese" <richardr@...>

"Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" wrote:

Does anyone have a schematic for an Astron RS-12A?

A person emailed me directly and ask for a copy which I could not
help with.

If you do, can you scan it and email it to me.
Required size is approximately 900 high by 600 wide so it will
print out on a common sheet of paper when printed.
Image file size should be no greater than 100k
(see )

Kevin,
I have a jpg image of the RS-12 but it is about 195K! If you wish I can
send it to you if you are in a hurry. If you are willing to wait, I can
reduce it in size or make it a gif image.

Let me know.
73 and keep up the good work. This list is great!
--
Richard D. Reese WA8DBW

Rich, Go ahead and send it. The guy was eager to get his PS working. I'll
decrease color or resize if possible, if not... that's ok too. I want to get
something to him. We can perfect the one I post on the rbtip site at a later
date. Thanks .... kkc

JHowel@... wrote:

From: JHowel@...

In a message dated 2/19/99 06:53:34 Eastern Standard Time, kuggie@...
writes:

What band please?

Sorry, I realize now I forgot to mention that - 136-174. Thanks.

Jeff

I'll check, Do you need for both transmit and receive? How many of each? Any
particular frequency you are looking for?

Kevin

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP wrote:

From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

Just sending this to get the RPITP Url
from the bottome of the message
lost all info pertaining to url's and e-mails netscape crashed and it
deleted my book marks and all
while i am here i got ? Kevin do you have the URL for the page that
one of the guys was working on and ask all for there url ? this might
have been you?

No... try....

kkc

In a message dated 2/19/99 18:27:51 Eastern Standard Time, kuggie@...
writes:

I'll check, Do you need for both transmit and receive? How many of each?
Any
particular frequency you are looking for?

I would need transmit and receive (a minimum of one set right now, though I
have a stack of the beasts and might eventually want to do something with the
lot). I'm making an attempt at building a 2-meter repeater out of two of
them.

I've heard from several people that, as long as there are not temperature
extremes, you don't need a channel element as the crystal will plug directly
into the radio without the element. Maybe I could build a "heater" using a
thermister -- I'll have to check my manual -- which I received in today's mail
-- and see.

Thanks.

Jeff

"Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" wrote:

Does anyone have a schematic for an Astron RS-12A?

A person emailed me directly and ask for a copy which I could not
help with.

If you do, can you scan it and email it to me.
Required size is approximately 900 high by 600 wide so it will
print out on a common sheet of paper when printed.
Image file size should be no greater than 100k
(see )

Kevin,
I have a jpg image of the RS-12 but it is about 195K! If you wish I can
send it to you if you are in a hurry. If you are willing to wait, I can
reduce it in size or make it a gif image.

Let me know.
73 and keep up the good work. This list is great!
--
Richard D. Reese WA8DBW

Just sending this to get the RPITP Url
from the bottome of the message
lost all info pertaining to url's and e-mails netscape crashed and it
deleted my book marks and all
while i am here i got ? Kevin do you have the URL for the page that
one of the guys was working on and ask all for there url ? this might
have been you?

JHowel@... wrote:

From: JHowel@...

Anybody happen to have any spare channel elements for Mocom 70's? If so,
please contact me privately with your asking price. Thanks.

Jeff, W9SAR

What band please?

kuggie

In a message dated 2/19/99 06:53:34 Eastern Standard Time, kuggie@...
writes:

What band please?

Sorry, I realize now I forgot to mention that - 136-174. Thanks.

Jeff

Yes, you can interchange them, but you can never use an EC element with
a 2C. The temperature compensation for an EC *must* come from a 5C
element. The 2C only compensates itself.

Joe, KR3P

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP wrote:

Ge ICOMS
Is it true that the UHf and VHF ICOMS can be interchanged with each
other???
2C PL19A129393G4 Rx @ 417.775Mhz
EC PL19A129393G18 Tx @ 457.650Mhz
looking to put these on VHF

Does anyone have a schematic for an Astron RS-12A?
A person emailed me directly and ask for a copy which I could not
help with.

If you do, can you scan it and email it to me.
Required size is approximately 900 high by 600 wide so it will
print out on a common sheet of paper when printed.
Image file size should be no greater than 100k
(see )

If you have a copy of the schematic and have a scanner, I will
give you pointers on how to scan the image and make a nice
printable copy that doesn't require a lot of size.

Thanks,

Kevin

I was asked to post this again, so here goes....

Hello All,

I recently received several requests from people on the list
wanting to obtain the large heat shrink I use to seal the Comet
and Diamond fiberglass antenna joints with. This stuff is great
for sealing connectors, antenna joints, covering shovel and
sledge hammer handles and covering tool handles like large
Crescent wrenches.

This shrink has an inert sealant that melts as the heat is applied
for shrinking. This creates a good (won't leak if it was drug
across the Atlantic) seal. Well maybe not that good......but damn
good.

It is available from Jerry Conn Associates Inc.
They are located in Chambersburg Penna.

The manufacturer is CANUSA. Pronounced canoosa.

The available sizes (unshrunk of course) are indicated by the
model number.
Example: Part number;
CFTV-400 is .4" (that's point 4 inches)
CFTV-1100 is 1.1" diameter
CFTV-1300 is 1.3" diameter
CFTV-2050 is 2.05" diameter and so on

These come in a 4 foot length.

I believe the shrink percentage is 50% of original, This is not
fact however.
I don't remember the spec. on shrinkage off hand... but it does
shrink a lot.

These are the available sizes:
The ones with pricing are normally in stock.

CFTV-400
CFTV-750
CFTV-1100
CFTV-1300 $5.16
CFTV-1700 $5.95
CFTV-2050 $11.41
CFTV-2750

These people have a $50.00 minimum order, so get together with a
friend or two and place an order.
They will sell directly to the public.
The models listed without pricing are available through JCA, but
are usually not stocked.

If interested in purchasing, contact Tracy at Jerry Conn
Associates.
1-(800) 233-7600 in PA
1-(800) 233-7370 out of PA
1-(717) 264-1547 Direct Line from anywhere.

The CFTV-750 is great for RG-8/PL-259's or Type N connectors.

In our business, we use a propane torch to shrink the tubing. It's
wall thickness is very good, and not easily damaged by a
little excess heat. You can actually catch it on fire and not
damage it badly. It doesn't shrink well in windy conditions,
(requires lots of propane) In severe wind I use MAPP gas as it
gets burns hotter than propane, although this is usually not
necessary. I have used this stuff for years and can attest to its
quality if installed properly. There are other cheaper brands of
this stuff than CANUSA , but (in two words) they suck. There is no
equivalent. I tried them all.

Here is a pix of the stuff we use in the catv industry.

[Image]

They also have a good quality Self Amalgamating Tape that is much
better for covering connections than Black Tape.

[Image]

View their complete website at

Hi Joe,would sure appreciate the help if you could recall how to do the
programming.
Doug VE6ZH

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From: mch <mch@...>
To: repeater-builder@...
Subject: [repeater-builder] Re: GE phen.programable radios/info
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 10:20 PM

From: mch <mch@...>

I'm using a PSX-SE on UHF, so I must have programmed it for the ham
band, but I don't recall how. I probably had to edit the hex data. If
you can't find anyone else who can do it, I'll research it more. It can
be done. :) *** One word of warning: The oscillator becomes
intermittent at low temperatures (<20-30). I don't recall how I got
around that problem either, but I think it involved adding or removing a
transistor. But when it works, it works very well.

Joe, KR3P

D.J.H. wrote:

From: "D.J.H." <ve6zh@...>

Will do Ralph,have a friend in the mobile buiss.,he can do the vhf
versions but not the uhf.
Doug Ve6zh

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From: Ralph Hogan <rhogan@...>
To: 'repeater builder' <repeater-builder@...>
Subject: [repeater-builder] Re: GE phen.programable radios/info
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 8:59 PM

From: Ralph Hogan <rhogan@...>

Doug,
If you find out on the phoenix-S, let me know too. I've got a

couple of

uhf's I like to do.

BTW Kevin, thanks for the heat shrink source. We will definitely get

some!

Tnx,
Ralph WB4TUR

Kevin,i was able to read all messages today.Back to the question on

the

GE

uhf Phoneix,anyone have info on reprogramming for the ham band??
Doug VE6ZH

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Michael Lussier wrote:

Now for the second part of the question. The 4 bay array antenna have a
phased harness can I put three of them at the same level and the fourth
antenna as a reinforcement in the direction I want ??

If you are on 2 meters or lower, you can point three in the same
direction and the fourth in another, but the elements cannot be at the
same level (elevation). You will, however, loose gain in the direction
of the three elements by facing one in another and could have a problem
if you are on a large tower. The elements must remain at the required
vertical spacing. At 440 and up, you cannot - they must all point toward
the same direction. You might get away with it at 220.

Chuck Kelsey
WB2EDV

Anybody happen to have any spare channel elements for Mocom 70's? If so,
please contact me privately with your asking price. Thanks.

Jeff, W9SAR