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Help With Audio on MASTR II

Miles Gillie
 

In a MASTR II mobile that has been converted into a repeater, what is the
best way to couple the audio from the receiver to the transmitter? I am
using an ACC RC-85 controller and currently taking the receiver audio from
the VOL HI connection and injecting the transmit audio into MIC HI. If you
have any suggestions on circuits for coupling the audio I would appreciate
hearing them. I have also seen several values for de-emphasis RC's. What
works best with this radio?

Thanks,
Miles WA4NNA


(No subject)

White, Christian C.
 

Hello,
I have ? in regards to a MSF 5000 VHF repeater. I have everything
except the control tray. I know how much a Motorola control tray cost, I
was wondering if another control tray from a different manufacturer, Would
work. Im not sure if the software is going to be the same.
I just need some input on where to go next ,
Thank you
Christian
N3yhe


Re: Motorola Micor Manuals.

Mark Pupilli
 

Hello all;
I am looking for manuals for my VHF Micor repeater. The manuals I need
are numbers; 6881025E60 and 6881013E65. If anyone has any of these manuals
that they want to part with, please E-mail me and let me know. If I cannot
find them from the list members, I will check at Dayton. As a last resort,
they are still available from Motorola.

Thanks & 73'
Mark Pupilli NS9M


LOOKING FOR VHF DUPLEXER and RECIEVE PREAMP

 

Hi All,

I am looking for a VHF duplexer to be used in the mid 150 range with a
seperation of just under 2 megs, prefer at least 4 cans. Need as much
isolation as possible, power rating should be at leasst 100 to 150 watts.

I am also looking for a recieve preamp to be used on the same repeater.
Please E-Mail me with what you have, model number, condition, and price. I
can pick items up at Dayton if that is convenient.


Thanx
Mike


manual for Motorola R2009D/HS?

Mark Sihlanick
 

Looking for the service manual (or arrangements to copy one) for the
Motorola R2009D/HS service manual.

(Motorola asks a flat fee of voer $1300 to fix/calibrate one, after that I
was afraid to ask about the manual!)

Mark N2QT


Re: GE Master II UHF COMBO #

Duane Hall
 

What you have is a Synthesized RCC Duplex Mastr Exec II.

Y RCC Duplex Exec II
S 12V Neg Ground Synthesizer
5 21-40 Watts
5 25 KHz Chan Spacing
S Synthesized up to 32 Chan
S 32 Tx / 32 Rx
X Control Unit - None
88 450-470 MHz
A 5 ppm

LBI30801 Combination Manual
LBI30809 Transmitter Manual
LBI30810 Receiver Manual
LBI8861 SAS Board Manual

Duane

From: " " <dx_ing@...>

Hello,

I have a GE Master II UHF mobile radio, and I am planning to convert this to
a UHF repeater. The combo number is YS55SSXX88a. Could this unit be tuned
down to 440 ham band since the combo number is kind of different from what I
have seen on INTERNET listing. Any info is much appreciated in advance.

Thanks


GE Master II UHF COMBO #

" "
 

Hello,

I have a GE Master II UHF mobile radio, and I am planning to convert this to
a UHF repeater. The combo number is YS55SSXX88a. Could this unit be tuned
down to 440 ham band since the combo number is kind of different from what I
have seen on INTERNET listing. Any info is much appreciated in advance.


Thanks


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Re: G.E. Master II Repeater Interface Problem

tom oliver
 

You can go to scom's web page and look under technical ah heck with it I will
attach a file on how to interface a 7 k to a mastr II base from scom home page it
is in word format. I too am getting ready to do my first base station interface
and this info came in real handy. on the mobile flutter there is a capacitor
that you can remove on the ifas board to defeat the short squelch tail and force
it to 200 milliseconds just by removing this cap.

tom n8ies

"T.E. Butler" wrote:

From: "T.E. Butler" <tebutler@...>

Hi Fellow Hams,
I just acquired a Master II Repeater and interfacing a Cat 300 DX
controller to it. I have everything done except I wish to use the
RUS line for COR input. The RUS line goes high for a split second till
the exciter keys and then goes low. There must be another place to pick
up RUS that will stay high as long as the receiver is unsqelched. I am
hoping that someone knows of this location. Using the RUS as COR is in
light of having mobil flutter problems on a previous converted Master II
mobile.
Another thing that I need is where to pick up a CTCSS output from the
factory G.E. pl board. I need to go high on a line when P.L. is
present. I didn't find anywhere on the backplane that gave me this.
Any help would be apperciated very much. Thanks, Tom Butler, N5KWN..

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222MHz radio and repeater

 

I have a GE master 2 vhf mobile and would like to know what needs to be done
to convert this radio to a 220 repeater, oh can not forget a basic controller also
I am also looking for a 222 mobile radio at a fair price

Thank you,
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Re: NEED HELP WITH REPEATER

 

In a message dated 4/30/1999 6:20:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, WA2MMX@...
writes:

<<
Loose the 75 ohm cable and get some hardline, 50 ohms.......no RG8 or any of
that type of coax. You need double shielded or hardline......
>>


Thanx for the advise, however, I remeasured, and I am using about 50 feet
of the stuff. I Live on the 6 floor of the building, whcih is the top floor,
and the antenna is on the roof up 20 feet on a steel pipe. I was under the
impression that 75 ohn cable was acceptable, however, I plan on getting some
either RG8, although I have some 1/2 inch coax laying around that I may
attempt to use. Thanx for all the good advice, I plan on attempting all of
them.

Thanx
Mike


Re: NEED HELP WITH REPEATER

 

Loose the 75 ohm cable and get some hardline, 50 ohms.......no RG8 or any of
that type of coax. You need double shielded or hardline......


Re: NEED HELP WITH REPEATER

critic
 

LOOSE THE 75ohm CABLE THEY NEED (50)ohm cable!!!!!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: HQ54@... [mailto:HQ54@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 5:55 AM
To: Repeater-builder@...
Subject: [Repeater-builder] NEED HELP WITH REPEATER


From: HQ54@...



Hi All,

I was wondering if any one could help me with a problem I am
haing with
my repeater. I am currently using a Motorola Suitcase Repeater,
basically
based on the MX series of portables, this unit is fully self
contained with
high power PA, mobile type duplexer, repeater controler, and even a power
supply (OF which I am not currently using, I am using an Astron
35amp unit)
I am also using about 50 feet of LOW loss 75 ohm coax that I got from the
Cable Company, however, I am unsure of the exact type of cable,
RG6 or RG11
or whatever. I am also usiung a Ringo Ranger antenna, mounted on
the top of
my building 6 stories up. I know it isn't the most ideal setup, but I am
just looking for some local coverage, a couple of miles worth,
maybe 3 or 4
on 5 watt portables. Now to the problem,

The unit works flawlessly when within about 7 to 10 blocks away,
however, once passed that point, or even closer when in a house,
building, or
basement, the reciever opens, and stays open the entire time of
the signal,
however there is a low pitched, I guess it would be called a "HUM", that
completely covers the audio of the signal. I thought that maybe
it was the
duplexer, but I tested that by disabling the transmitter while
recieving a
"HUMING" signal, with no improvement. I then thought it was the
antenna and
the connections, but I have an SWR of about 1.4, so I wasn't that
concerned
with the antenna. However, I once read somewhere that the way the Ringos
carry the RF, it wasn't good for the duplexer, so I swapped it
out with an
Antenna I picked up at a hamfest, and according the literature with the
antenna, it has been successfully used with other repeaters, along with
replacing the connectors at both ends of the coax. This new antenna did
improve on the humming problem, signals that before would "HUM" didn't,
however, the antenna was physically smaller, so I lost alot of the output
gain, and the reciever wouldn't pick up signals that before it
would, without
dropping out, but were humming. So, I switched back to the Ringo
thinking
that maybe the connectors were the problem, however, they weren't
as I am now
getting the HUM again.

I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or suggestions that
might help.
I was thinking about adding a MICOR recieve preamp, thinking that
maybe the
signals just aren't strong enough, and that is why I am getting
them HUM, but
I think that there is something else going on.

Also, can anyone tell me, can I install the MICOR preamp in
the coax that
leads from the duplexer to the reciever, or does it have to be after some
sort of reciever circuitry.

Thanx in advance for any help you may be able to provide.
Mike

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communication systems inc. csi-32 repeater tone panal manual

JAMES DEMARTINI JR
 

if some has a manual for this panal please let me know csi-32 community tone panal
thanks jimmy


Fw: Help w/ RC-1000 Audio

"Tony Lelieveld" <[email protected]
 

Hi Matt.

We have used three RC-1000 controllers and never had a problem with bad
audio. The RC-1000 requires processed, de-emphasized, audio. From what you
are describing it is possible that you may be taking the audio from a point
in the receiver before the de-emphasis circuit. As your TX audio circuit
does pre-emphasis again, you now have it twice and the result is harsh tinny
audio. Try to find a point where the audio is de-emphasized and see what
the result is.

Tony VE3DWI
**

From: Matthew Janusauskas <w21@...>

Hi group,

We are trying to make an older model RC-1000 controller by MicroComputer
Concepte work with a VHF Micor. The audio sounds very harsh and tinny.
Anyone have any experience or advice to make the repeat audio sound better?

Thanks for the ideas!

-Matt



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Re: cavity filter docs

Kosa Tibor <[email protected]
 

Robert D. Mantell wrote:



Your first step would be to read all available information on duplexor
technology. The RSGB book is a good source of info. You should also
contact a manufacturer like WACOM Products and request all of their
literature. They may be reached by e-mail: wacom@...
You should scan back through the Repeater-builder list-serv posting
for further info.
If you have access to inexpensive materials, building your own is
an option. Another option is to use two sites spaced far enough
from each other that no cavities are required. They may be linked
by wire or qrp radio. Please keep us informed of your progress

Good luck and vy 73.

Bob - W3TGG
Hi, Bob,

Thanks you very much for your answer. Sorry, we have not two sites to
make repeater, only a little place in a tower of my job.
Tnx Bob, and my best wishes!
Tibor HA1US


Re: NEED HELP WITH REPEATER

Todd Ellis
 

Not to bust any chops, but I think you're looking in the wrong area if
you're thinking cable TV interference or UFOs or whatever. Back up a step
or two and analyze the whole system.

You are using a suitcase repeater with two handheld radios connected to a
power supply. The power supply seems to have enough amperage to supply the
two radios if it is rated at 35A. However the two handhelds don't have a
lot of power filtering capabilities by themselves. How old is the power
supply? If the supply is old and the capacitors are shot, you might think
about replacing them or using a newer replacement supply and see if your hum
goes away. Is your hum a buzz or solid tone? Hint: you might have a power
supply problem if you're hearing a low tone - like 60 Hz - which is your
line frequency.

Ditch the 75 ohm coax. You have no idea if the line is good or bad since it
is surplus. If you have an extremely long length and are literally
hoseclamping PL-259s to the feedline (I've done that too), the VSWR readings
may be false - something I found out the hard way. Go get some new stuff,
heck, even RG-8X is better than what you have at this point. 6 stories of
bad coax is bad news. Also get some new connectors and put them on
correctly.

Let's look at the antenna system starting at the duplexer. You are no doubt
using a mobile duplexer and they don't provide much filtering between the
transmitter and the receiver to start with, and even then, they are
typically designed to operate 5 MHz splits. If you're trying to use it with
a 600 KHz split, you're asking for trouble! You may be getting RF back into
the receiver - your hum.

Now let's examine the antenna. The Ringo Ranger is not a great antenna, but
it's not going to create hum. Do get a good DC-grounded antenna, even if it
is a ground plane type up on a mast, but the skirt is grounded to the mast,
etc. How high up is the antenna? I have assumed that you are using 2 meter
frequencies again, and like any VHF or UHF bands, they rely mainly on line
of sight for propagation. The higher you get the antenna, the better range
you will get. Any hills or big buildings in the way? If so, you're going
to have some blocking effects.

I hope I haven't confused you totally, but think of the whole picture - a
complete communications system - and disect it accordingly. You'll find the
problem!

Todd Ellis, N2XL
Operations Manager,
Telecommunications Division
Booth & Associates, Inc.
1011 Schaub Drive
Raleigh, NC 27606
Tel: (919) 851-8770
Fax: (919) 859-5918
E-mail: ellistr@...

----- Original Message -----
From: <HQ54@...>
To: <Repeater-builder@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 8:54 AM
Subject: [Repeater-builder] NEED HELP WITH REPEATER


Hamtronics CWID-2 Programming

 

I got a Hamtronics CWID-2 board and it has the 2732Q erpm on it. I have done this before with similiar iders like this in fact I have a basic program that you enter the freq. and it write a bin dile to write to the eprom. On this one it don't seem to be the same format.

Has anyone reprogrammed this eprom or know how to edit the one? I tried to edit what I read off it but it seems someone has tried this before and messed up the format.

Sam, wm4t


Hamtronics CWID-2 Programming

 

I got a Hamtronics CWID-2 board and it has the 2732Q erpm on it. I have done this before with similiar iders like this in fact I have a basic program that you enter the freq. and it write a bin dile to write to the eprom. On this one it don't seem to be the same format.

Has anyone reprogrammed this eprom or know how to edit the one? I tried to edit what I read off it but it seems someone has tried this before and messed up the format.

Sam, wm4t


Re: NEED HELP WITH REPEATER

Sam
 

HQ54@... wrote:

From: HQ54@...

Hi All,

I was wondering if any one could help me with a problem I am haing with
my repeater. I am currently using a Motorola Suitcase Repeater, basically
based on the MX series of portables, this unit is fully self contained with
high power PA, mobile type duplexer, repeater controler, and even a power
supply (OF which I am not currently using, I am using an Astron 35amp unit)
I am also using about 50 feet of LOW loss 75 ohm coax that I got from the
Cable Company, however, I am unsure of the exact type of cable, RG6 or RG11
or whatever. I am also usiung a Ringo Ranger antenna, mounted on the top of
my building 6 stories up. I know it isn't the most ideal setup, but I am
just looking for some local coverage, a couple of miles worth, maybe 3 or 4
on 5 watt portables. Now to the problem,

The unit works flawlessly when within about 7 to 10 blocks away,
however, once passed that point, or even closer when in a house, building, or
basement, the reciever opens, and stays open the entire time of the signal,
however there is a low pitched, I guess it would be called a "HUM", that
completely covers the audio of the signal. I thought that maybe it was the
duplexer, but I tested that by disabling the transmitter while recieving a
"HUMING" signal, with no improvement. I then thought it was the antenna and
the connections, but I have an SWR of about 1.4, so I wasn't that concerned
with the antenna. However, I once read somewhere that the way the Ringos
carry the RF, it wasn't good for the duplexer, so I swapped it out with an
Antenna I picked up at a hamfest, and according the literature with the
antenna, it has been successfully used with other repeaters, along with
replacing the connectors at both ends of the coax. This new antenna did
improve on the humming problem, signals that before would "HUM" didn't,
however, the antenna was physically smaller, so I lost alot of the output
gain, and the reciever wouldn't pick up signals that before it would, without
dropping out, but were humming. So, I switched back to the Ringo thinking
that maybe the connectors were the problem, however, they weren't as I am now
getting the HUM again.

I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or suggestions that might help.
I was thinking about adding a MICOR recieve preamp, thinking that maybe the
signals just aren't strong enough, and that is why I am getting them HUM, but
I think that there is something else going on.

Also, can anyone tell me, can I install the MICOR preamp in the coax that
leads from the duplexer to the reciever, or does it have to be after some
sort of reciever circuitry.

Thanx in advance for any help you may be able to provide.
Mike

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Mike,

One problem to look into is cable TV leakage in the area. You didn't
mention what frequency you were on but in the vhf range, 145.250 is the
ch 18 video sync and 4.5 up is audio, and every six megs is another
channel. We havea real problem here with this as some of the cable tv
amps are really putting out some garbage. This also can occur on uhf too
as the cable channels 57 thru appx. 64 are radiating rf that can be
beating with your receive signal. Or jsut enough to cause a little
desense and hiss when you receive a low level signal say from a handheld
etc..

Sam, wm4t


Re: NEED HELP WITH REPEATER

Don Freeland
 

It would seem to me that the first place to start is to replace the 75
ohm coax you are using with 50 ohm coax which will properly match both
the radio and the antenna.

Don WA1PXT