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Re: MCX 100&1000

D.J.H.
 

Thanks for the input,will keep digging around.
73 Doug VE6ZH

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From: Charles D. Miller <cdmiller@...>
To: Repeater-builder@...
Subject: [Repeater-builder] Re: MCX 100&1000
Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 9:59 PM

From: "Charles D. Miller" <cdmiller@...>

If it is like most resent Motorola radios, It takes Software,
RSS, and Programming Cables.

We do not have these in our shop, but have MCS2000, Spectra's,
SABER's, MTS2000, and many more.

All Require RSS Software and RSS.

Good luck and mayby someone else can give you a better answer.


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On 3/27/99 at 9:49 PM D.J.H. wrote:

From: "D.J.H." <ve6zh@...>

How are the Motorola Mcx100&1000 programmed?I have run on to
several,would
like to find out how it is done.

TNX Doug VE6ZH


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Motorola T1504A

KF4TNP
 

Looking for two Motorola T1504A duplexers anybody have some around for
say trade etc..please let me know asap vie direct e-mail thank you
Brent


Re: MCX 100&1000

William L Anderson
 

The MCX 100 uses a prom, (program once read many) if I remember correctly. It
was programmed by the old suitcase programmer. There is a man who has a board
he sell that will program them and the Syntor as well, Paul Bennet is his name
but a Modem crash took his address from me.
Bill

DJH wrote:

From: "D.J.H." <ve6zh@...>

How are the Motorola Mcx100&1000 programmed?I have run on to several,would
like to find out how it is done.

TNX Doug VE6ZH

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Re: MCX 100&1000

tom oliver
 

Try bat labs

tom n8ies

"Charles D. Miller" wrote:

From: "Charles D. Miller" <cdmiller@...>

If it is like most resent Motorola radios, It takes Software,
RSS, and Programming Cables.

We do not have these in our shop, but have MCS2000, Spectra's,
SABER's, MTS2000, and many more.

All Require RSS Software and RSS.

Good luck and mayby someone else can give you a better answer.

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On 3/27/99 at 9:49 PM D.J.H. wrote:

From: "D.J.H." <ve6zh@...>

How are the Motorola Mcx100&1000 programmed?I have run on to
several,would
like to find out how it is done.

TNX Doug VE6ZH


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Re: MCX 100&1000

Charles D. Miller
 

If it is like most resent Motorola radios, It takes Software,
RSS, and Programming Cables.

We do not have these in our shop, but have MCS2000, Spectra's,
SABER's, MTS2000, and many more.

All Require RSS Software and RSS.

Good luck and mayby someone else can give you a better answer.


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On 3/27/99 at 9:49 PM D.J.H. wrote:

From: "D.J.H." <ve6zh@...>

How are the Motorola Mcx100&1000 programmed?I have run on to
several,would
like to find out how it is done.

TNX Doug VE6ZH


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MCX 100&1000

D.J.H.
 

How are the Motorola Mcx100&1000 programmed?I have run on to several,would
like to find out how it is done.

TNX Doug VE6ZH


GE MASTR II BASE STATION SYSTEM BOARD DIAGRAM

KF4TNP
 

Does anybody have a copy of the GE MASTER II BASE STATION
system board diagram it is GE P/N: LBI-4791 that can be sent via
e-mail directly?
Thank you,
Brent


Re: MCX 100&1000

mike Gimblett
 

the mcx 1000 is a pc program
and the 100 I think is a chip
it's been a long time BRAIN FAD or C.R.S
can't remember shit


Re: RC-99 / IC-900 Interface

Corey Dean
 

Yes, I have had several of these in the past. I didn't find them very
reliable. The eprom just seems to go south after a few months and would
have to send $40 for a new one. First it would go buggy decoding my
tones, then lock the remote base up for no reason. I wasn't the only one
in the area with these problems either. They were developed by Jim Hughes
N2HQI and at one time there was a large number accross NY state. I did
receive one from another ham who had one, KA2CTN and never had a bit of
trouble with that one for well over a year until I sold it to a friend. 2
weeks later and up till right noe (1 year later) it is still giving us a
headache. Corey

On 27 Mar 1999 kenneyj@... wrote:

From: kenneyj@...

Does anyone have any experience with an RC-99 controller?

Found a Web site and requested information -
(Jim Hughes N2HQI) - but haven't received a reply. It's been nearly a week.

Looking for an INEXPENSIVE way to interface the IC-900 series radios for a remote base.

John
WB4NFC



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Re: RC-99 / IC-900 Interface

mike hamann
 

John,
I suggest you send at least one more e-mail (maybe a
"forward" of your first?), then, as your last e-mail, ask "is
anybody home?". It took me three e-mails to get a response
from one 2-way radio supplier, all of them more than a week
apart. Many people do not check their e-mail any more
frequently than every week.
73,
Mike, wb6csh


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From: kenneyj@...

Does anyone have any experience with an RC-99 controller?

Found a Web site and requested information -
(Jim Hughes
N2HQI) - but haven't received a reply. It's been nearly a
week.

Looking for an INEXPENSIVE way to interface the IC-900
series radios for a remote base.

John
WB4NFC



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RC-99 / IC-900 Interface

 

Does anyone have any experience with an RC-99 controller?

Found a Web site and requested information -
(Jim Hughes N2HQI) - but haven't received a reply. It's been nearly a week.

Looking for an INEXPENSIVE way to interface the IC-900 series radios for a remote base.

John
WB4NFC


Re: 10GHZ Link

Ray Vaughan
 

Under the heading of good timing...

The March 1999 73 Magazine has info on 10GHz. In "Above & Beyond" "10 Hgz
fun, 1999 update, part 2: The Gunn diode modulator power supply" Looks
like you may want to get the Feb issue too for Part 1. Looks like he used
the Ramsey FR10 for IF. I'm not into 10 Ghz yet, but this might be
interesting to anyone who's been following this thread.

Hope this helps.

At 10:49 AM 3/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
From: "John Hackman" <johnh@...>

If you can obtain a line-of-sight path between two sites, the 10 GHz
gunnplexers provide a very nice method of bi-directional linking. They are
by their nature capable of full-duplex operation. Add two receivers (30 MHz
is reported to work - just crystal up both receivers to the same frequency)
to serve as the receiver IF/detector strips. Obtain an AFC voltage from ONE
of the receivers and run it back to the voltage regulator of its associated
Gunn diode so as to AFC lock that site to the other site [do not AFC both
setups - they'll end up chasing each other out of the band]. The Gunn diodes
are modulated by providing audio drive to their voltage regulators. Voila! A
reasonably simple bi-directional full duplex link. The two transmitters will
be synched to each other, separated by the frequency selected as the IF.

Now for the customary disclaimer ... this works in theory, and in somebody
else's practice - I've never had my hands on two Gunnplexers to try it out,
but various publications have reported it to work. With the ready
availability of low-band Motorola and GE crystal-controlled mobiles, this
should be simple to implement.

......John WB4VVA

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Mitchell <sparc@...>
To: repeater-builder@... <repeater-builder@...>;
Repeaters@... <Repeaters@...>; RLC@...
<RLC@...>
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 5:57 PM
Subject: [Repeater-builder] 10GHZ Link


From: Kevin Mitchell <sparc@...>

Hi All,

I have a couple of 10GHz gunplexers sitting in my radio room that have
not been used for anything, at the moment.
I brought them at Dayton a few years ago, and wanted to use them for a
project, but never got around to doing anything about it.
Now, I came across them again and thought maybe I could use them as a
full duplex link between the main repeater site and my remote
nauto-patch site, or for some other use, with linking as it's purpose.
Okay, now that I have this idea, has anyone used 10GHz for linking (full
duplex) and if so could you please forward me the information on how you
did it. I would like to see them being used for the auto-patch link,
this way it will be very hard for someone to find the freq.

The information I have so far, from what I have worked out, is that I
will have to run them on different freq's.

Look forward to the replies.

Regards

Kevin. ZL1UDD.


Re: 10GHZ Link

John Hackman
 

If you can obtain a line-of-sight path between two sites, the 10 GHz
gunnplexers provide a very nice method of bi-directional linking. They are
by their nature capable of full-duplex operation. Add two receivers (30 MHz
is reported to work - just crystal up both receivers to the same frequency)
to serve as the receiver IF/detector strips. Obtain an AFC voltage from ONE
of the receivers and run it back to the voltage regulator of its associated
Gunn diode so as to AFC lock that site to the other site [do not AFC both
setups - they'll end up chasing each other out of the band]. The Gunn diodes
are modulated by providing audio drive to their voltage regulators. Voila! A
reasonably simple bi-directional full duplex link. The two transmitters will
be synched to each other, separated by the frequency selected as the IF.

Now for the customary disclaimer ... this works in theory, and in somebody
else's practice - I've never had my hands on two Gunnplexers to try it out,
but various publications have reported it to work. With the ready
availability of low-band Motorola and GE crystal-controlled mobiles, this
should be simple to implement.

......John WB4VVA

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Mitchell <sparc@...>
To: repeater-builder@... <repeater-builder@...>;
Repeaters@... <Repeaters@...>; RLC@...
<RLC@...>
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 5:57 PM
Subject: [Repeater-builder] 10GHZ Link


From: Kevin Mitchell <sparc@...>

Hi All,

I have a couple of 10GHz gunplexers sitting in my radio room that have
not been used for anything, at the moment.
I brought them at Dayton a few years ago, and wanted to use them for a
project, but never got around to doing anything about it.
Now, I came across them again and thought maybe I could use them as a
full duplex link between the main repeater site and my remote
nauto-patch site, or for some other use, with linking as it's purpose.
Okay, now that I have this idea, has anyone used 10GHz for linking (full
duplex) and if so could you please forward me the information on how you
did it. I would like to see them being used for the auto-patch link,
this way it will be very hard for someone to find the freq.

The information I have so far, from what I have worked out, is that I
will have to run them on different freq's.

Look forward to the replies.

Regards

Kevin. ZL1UDD.




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Re: Mastr II Cos question

John Lloyd, K7JL
 

Kevin,

Yes, the RUS ( Receive Unsquelch Sensor ) is the better one to use. It works
with the Channel Guard Decoder ( PL for the Motorola terminology ).
It comes out of the Audio Squelch Board on Pin 8 of P904.

I've worked with the GE Radios for 20 Years now.

John Lloyd, K7JL



Kevin K. Custer W3KKC wrote:

From: "Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" <kuggie@...>

Hello all,

On the GE conversion site I sponsor on rbtip I have information on
the conversion of the Mastr II.


A while back someone told me that the information on the cos that
is suggested for use is not really the best one to use. I believe
the gent said the rus or rui line is a better place because it
follows the Channel Guard and also has some hysteresis built in
when mobiles are in flutter.

What's the consensus?

What is the pin number for RUS or RUI, or what ever the hell it's
called?

I did not originally build the GE Mastr II conversion site on my
server, I inherited it. I am not real well versed on the GE stuff,
but I would like to update this info to be more correct.
I have done several conversions (long ago) on Mastr II's and I
don't even remember what I used.

Thanks,
Kevin

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10GHZ Link

Kevin Mitchell <[email protected]
 

Hi All,

I have a couple of 10GHz gunplexers sitting in my radio room that have
not been used for anything, at the moment.
I brought them at Dayton a few years ago, and wanted to use them for a
project, but never got around to doing anything about it.
Now, I came across them again and thought maybe I could use them as a
full duplex link between the main repeater site and my remote
nauto-patch site, or for some other use, with linking as it's purpose.
Okay, now that I have this idea, has anyone used 10GHz for linking (full
duplex) and if so could you please forward me the information on how you
did it. I would like to see them being used for the auto-patch link,
this way it will be very hard for someone to find the freq.

The information I have so far, from what I have worked out, is that I
will have to run them on different freq's.

Look forward to the replies.

Regards

Kevin. ZL1UDD.


Re: Mitrek repeater conversion

Cristobal Inos
 

HQ54@... wrote:

From: HQ54@...

Hi All,

I have several Mitrek VHF radios I would like to convert to repeaters. I
have searched the NET, and have found 3 different version of the conversion
instructions. I am sure out of all the people who frequent this list, that
all of the different conversion instructions have been attempted, so I am
hoping any one who has done it, if you could advise me which one or ones
worked, and if you attempted a conversion and it didn't work, I would
certainly like to know which one or ones didn't work. If you have any links
to sites either way, I would certainly appreciate thier address or link.

Thanx
Mike

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reply:

I am in the same situation...trying to link different islands...if you
are ever sussessful in linking...please keep me posted so taht I can
enlist the services of whomever that helped you out.

thanks
chris inos]
wh6um


Re: Remote Sites

Cristobal Inos
 

Patrick Nicholson wrote:

From: Patrick Nicholson <patrickn@...>

Hello,

I have a repeater system consisting of a Yaesu VXR5000 UHF repeate and a
Computer Automation Technology CAT300 controller. I have the repeater at a
church in my city.. The coverage is not that great, and I would like to
expand it. I am seeking advise on what I need to do. I live south of
Seattle, WA. I have located a nice places for a remote site there, this
would allow my group to communicate between the counties and cities
inbetween. I am not sure how to link the systems so that they are on the
same freq.

I was thinking about putting two mobiles and a controller at the other
site, and using a different PL. That way, when users move out of range,
they can switch PL's and gain access. I have a yaesu and ADI mobile rig,
and a handheld controller to do this with.

Thanks,

Pat N7WGR

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reply:

I am in the pacific islands (Mariana Islands) - Guam, Rota, Tinian
-theisland that launched the atomic bomb that forcedJapan to surrender-
Saipan and 12 additional islands leading to Japan.

I am in the very same situation as you are -what you posted in the list-
There is no technical person around in this small island, Saipan,
population of 15,ooo. Too expensive to employ a technical person.

I am not a technical person...I just bought a company -providing two-way
radio- that went under and I continued to provide services to government
and private sectors for the past 5 years.

If you are successful in connecting different sites,,,keep me posted so
that I can enlist the services of whomever helped you out.

thanks

chris inos
wh6um


Re: Mastr II Cos question

Henry Clark
 


A while back someone told me that the information on the cos that
is suggested for use is not really the best one to use. I believe
the gent said the rus or rui line is a better place because it
follows the Channel Guard and also has some hysteresis built in
when mobiles are in flutter.
I guess that might have been me, Kevin. I use the RX mute line for
the COS signal. Here is my reasoning....

The CAS signal goes high anytime the receiver is active. In other
words, if you are using the factory Channel Guard board for tone
decode, CAS will go high even without the tone.

The RUS line will only go high when the proper tone is decoded,
however, high is on the order of only ~4.0 vdc or so and can sometimes
be tricky about loading. If you use the factory CG board for decode, and
have no need to remote control it on/off, this will work.

BUT....The RX mute line follows the state of tone/carrier squelch. GE
MASTR II's have a CG disable line going to the control head. So....
If you want to use the factory CG board (instead of spending 50 bucks or
so on a TS-32P), and be able to remotely control the tone/carrier squelch,
use the RX mute line for the COS signal, and tie the CG disable to a user
function output on your controller. Grounding the CG disable line will put
the MASTR II into carrier mode, while ungrounding it will put the MASTR II
into tone mode. And the RX mute line will follow this condition.

I am by no means a radio tech, but observations have shown me that the
RX mute line is a little slower acting on rapid squelch flutter. Maybe the
extra circuits slows it down a little.

FWIW, the RX mute will go high (~10 vdc) when the squelch opens, and
0 vdc with the squelch closed. (Darn, I wished I had my manual here!)

The RX mute line supplies 10 vdc to the audio amp from the 10v regulator
(I think?), and will be pulled to ground with no signal. This is to turn
the speaker
on/off, and in essence I am doing the same thing except instead of turning
the controller COS input on/off.

CG disable line simply goes to the mike hang-up box on the control head of
the
GE. So...by putting the CG disable line to an output on the controller, it
is the
same as taking the mike off-hook, which then puts the MASTR II into carrier
mode.

I can't recall the pin # for the RUS line. I do know that it is right
beside the CAS
line on the pins of the IFAS board, and should be labeled accordingly.

The RX mute and the CG disable lines are in the large control cable going
to the control head.


CAS -- Pin # 9 on IFAS board -- Pin #16 on control plug -- Violet wire in
cable

RUS -- Pin #8 on IFAS board -- (ONLY FOUND HERE!)

RX mute -- Pin # 7 on IFAS board -- Pin # 3 on control plug -- yellow/blue
in cable

CG disable -- NOT on IFAS board -- Pin # 6 on control plug -- white/green in
cable



What is the pin number for RUS or RUI, or what ever the hell it's
called?
RUS = Receiver Un Squelched


May be a little bigger answer than you intended, but use what you can.
If I find any errors, I'll let you know...

Henry
KC4KZT


Re: Mastr II Cos question

mch
 

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC wrote:

A while back someone told me that the information on the cos that
is suggested for use is not really the best one to use. I believe
the gent said the rus or rui line is a better place because it
follows the Channel Guard and also has some hysteresis built in
when mobiles are in flutter.

What's the consensus?

What is the pin number for RUS or RUI, or what ever the hell it's
called?
CAS is the 'first' one in line. Carrier Activity Sense. It follows the
receiver regardless of CTCSS/CDCSS. J932 pin 18 is one reference I have
in my notes. I think that is for the base version. I think the mobile is
J904 pin 9.

RUS is the 'second' one in line. Receiver UnSquelched. It only goes high
when the correct CTCSS/CDCSS is present (in addition to the CAS) This
point should be within a few pins of J904 pin 9 (CAS)

I don't have the pin numbers in front of me, but I believe J904 is the
connector they are on. In any case, it is the connector in front of the
audio transformer beside the metering jack. The label right beside the
connector (either mobile or base version) indicates RUS, CAS, and all
other pinouts. It's been a while since I did any interfacing, but if I
recall correctly, CAS will load down *very* easily - even using newer
controllers. It can't source much current. If you don't get them from
someone else, I'll get them at work tomorrow. I've got 4 Micor manuals
here but no Mastr-IIs.

73,
Joe, KR3P


Re: Remote Sites

The Lacko's
 

To link a few sites you will do i little engineering.

1.) Will the site coverages overlap?
2.) How will the sites be interconnected? ( RF/Phone/Microwave)
3.) How much are you will to spend?

If the sites are going to overlap you will need to use different TX
frequencies or use VERY expensive high stability transmitters. If there is
enough separation between sites you could use the same tx frequency and
adjust the power to remove the overlap areas. Crossbanding ( is this a
word?) would be the least expensive way to link your sites together. What i
have seen is to feed the receivers back to a voter and send it back out to
the transmitters. Or crossband back to a hub site and crossband back to the
remote site transmitter ( I.E. VHF rx'r at remote site tied to UHF tx'r,
transmitting back to hub UHF repeater. The repeater output would be
recieved at the remote site and transmitted on VHF.) If you have
phone/microwave feed receivers back to voter and then send out to
transmitters. Again if you have overlap coverage then you will have to
operate on different TX frequencies so there is no same frequency overlap.
Hope this helps.

Scott