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Re: Crystals For GE MASTR II

John Lloyd
 

W8CQ,

Ray is right, ICM will do the calculations for you, but if you want high side
injection for the Receiver you need to specify it.

VHF TX Crystal calculations are: Crystal Freq =Operating Freq/12
VHF RX Crystal Calculations are Crystal Freq=(Operating Freq - 11.2 Mhz)/9

UHF Tx Crystal calculations are: Crystal Freq=Operating Freq/36
UHF Rx Crystal calculations are: Crystal Freq=(Operating Freq - 11.2Mhz ) / 27

John Lloyd, K7JL

Utah VHF Society


Ray J. Vaughan wrote:

From: "Ray J. Vaughan" <ray@...>

At 08:31 PM 4/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
Hello All, I have a simple question (I think), but it may not have a
simple answer. What is the correct method for calculating TX/RX
crystal frequencies for this radio? Thanks in advance, W8CQ
Well, it may be cheating, but I don't bother. When I order from ICM, I
just tell them GE Mastr II, 2C, TX and they take it from there. They know
all the calculations. I know Bomar is the same. I would think every
crystal company would be the same.

Ray, KD4BBM

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Re: Crystals For GE MASTR II

John Hackman
 

The CORRECT way to calculate the crystal frequency for any radio is to let International or whichever crystal supplier you are using do it. Any crystal manufacturer worth dealing with will do so, and will stand behind their calculations. Who will guarantee the accuracy of MY calculation? So I leave it to International.

The sole exception to this rule is for really strange applications, like converting a standard Micor UHF mobile into a repeater with high-side receive.

......John WB4VVA

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
To: Repeater Builder
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:31 PM
Subject: [Repeater-builder] Crystals For GE MASTR II


Hello All,
I have a simple question (I think), but it may not have a simple answer.

Recently I have acquired a GE MASTR II UHF radio for my repeater. I have seen 2 or 3 different ways to calculate the crystal frequency for this radio. This is a "painted handle" version of the radio. The one that DOES NOT have a tripler. What is the correct method for calculating TX/RX crystal frequencies for this radio?

Thanks in advance,
Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
w8cq@...


Re: antenna question

John Lloyd
 

Kurt,

Have you checked out the Feedline for Loss and or Damage. I would measure your
transmitter power going into your feedline next to the transmitter and then climb
the tower to the antenna and insert the wattmeter between the feedline and antenna
and measure the power output from the transmitter. This will be your feedline
loss. I would also check reflected power coming back from the antenna. This would
be a good starting point.

John Lloyd, K7JL

Utah VHF Society



Kurt Bleich wrote:

From: Kurt Bleich <kurt_bleich@...>

Thanks for the help so far.
I understand there are a lot of variables in the operation of the repeater. I
have just put one up on 440. Our fire rpt is all new equipment that supposedly
has been checked out by different companies all saying everything is okay. It
is hard to believe there isn't something wrong somewhere because with the
antenna is up 200+ ft and a 5 watt HT is having trouble being only 5-6 miles
out. I was just wondering if the exposed dipole antenna, since they seem to
have some unique charateristics, could be a source of RX trouble that the
professionals are overlooking.
The two most recent times I had problems getting into the repeater I wasn't
down in valley that would create problems.

Thanks again.

Kurt
KB0HNR

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Re: FS: Micor low split mobile

DFKB2ZNC@xxx.xxx
 

can u convert that into a repeater??
dave kb2znc


Re: FS: Micor low split mobile

Kevin Custer
 

Jsimmons wrote:

From: "Jsimmons" <auburn@...>

I have some VHF low split (2 meter ham band) 45 watt Micors for sale.

Please e-mail if you are interested.

John NI0K
John,

Are the radio sets on 132 to 142, or 142 to 150.8?

Kevin


Re: 2 Questions

LINYHam@xxx.xxx
 

Try Looking at
he Has a few pages specifically for this

Ray
N2ZEM


Re: ge master II VHF to 220Mhhz

John Lloyd
 

Look at the page:



for 220 modifications

John Lloyd, K7JL



KF4TNP wrote:

From: KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

looking for info on converting a ge master II base to 220Mhz

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Re: FS: Micor low split mobile

John Lloyd
 

How much?

Are they 132-151 Mhz?


John Lloyd, K7JL



Jsimmons wrote:

From: "Jsimmons" <auburn@...>

I have some VHF low split (2 meter ham band) 45 watt Micors for sale.

Please e-mail if you are interested.

John NI0K

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Re: antenna question

Todd Ellis
 

I would also look to see what else was on the tower with the VHF fire stuff.
More likely than not, you might find a nearby paging transmitter belching
250W into a high gain antenna on the same tower. It could almost completely
desense a receiver just a few megahertz away.

In short, there's a lot of system concerns the "professionals" have to
consider besides the antenna. Even if, like Frank Lynch's comments the
other day, the antenna has a narrow vertical lobe, at 5 miles there should
be a significant enough lobe to hear the base station. Any obstructions
between the portable and the tower site??

Todd Ellis

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Bleich <kurt_bleich@...>
To: repeater-builder@... <repeater-builder@...>
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 11:22 AM
Subject: [Repeater-builder] antenna question


From: Kurt Bleich <kurt_bleich@...>

Thanks for the help so far.
I understand there are a lot of variables in the operation of the repeater.
I
have just put one up on 440. Our fire rpt is all new equipment that
supposedly
has been checked out by different companies all saying everything is okay.
It
is hard to believe there isn't something wrong somewhere because with the
antenna is up 200+ ft and a 5 watt HT is having trouble being only 5-6
miles
out. I was just wondering if the exposed dipole antenna, since they seem to
have some unique charateristics, could be a source of RX trouble that the
professionals are overlooking.
The two most recent times I had problems getting into the repeater I wasn't
down in valley that would create problems.

Thanks again.

Kurt
KB0HNR

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Re: FS: Micor low split mobile

Bill Anderson WA9BA
 

The radio clubs I service Micor repeaters for may be interested. Please send
a quote for them, we may need 4 or more depending on price.
Bill Anderson WA9BA

Jsimmons wrote:

From: "Jsimmons" <auburn@...>

I have some VHF low split (2 meter ham band) 45 watt Micors for sale.

Please e-mail if you are interested.

John NI0K

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FS: Micor low split mobile

Jsimmons
 

I have some VHF low split (2 meter ham band) 45 watt Micors for sale.

Please e-mail if you are interested.

John NI0K


Aerotron-Repco Systems, Inc.

pvs4@xxxxxxx.xxx
 

Hello:

Has anyone used any equipment, i.e. Exciters or Receivers from
ARS, Aerotron-Repco Systems, Inc.

I am seeking to build a repeater and am thinking about using their
equipment. Looking for honest opinion on the quality of this
equipment.

Thank You

Lindsay Hodgdon


Re: FS: Micor low split mobile

AD4CR@xxx.xxx
 

Interested! How much?

ad4cr@...


New list - 220 MHz

Todd Ellis
 

For those interested, this new group shares information regarding 220 MHz
narrowband commercial (repeat, COMMERCIAL) two-way radio systems. This would
include information about system components, technical issues, site
coordination, and more.

Note - yes, this is the spectrum that was taken from the ham band. Flames
about that matter won't be allowed or tolerated; what's done is done. What
IS interesting is the amount of engineering and effort that is needed to
implement the new narrowband technologies in this small slice of spectrum as
dictated by the FCC. It's completely different from FM!!

If you're interested in this and/or wish to contribute your thoughts on
various technical matters, we'd appreciate hearing from you.

Todd Ellis, N2XL
Operations Manager,
Telecommunications Division
Booth & Associates, Inc.
1011 Schaub Drive
Raleigh, NC 27606
Tel: (919) 851-8770
Fax: (919) 859-5918
E-mail: ellistr@...


ICOM 27A

KF4TNP
 

has anybody converted the icom ic-27a (144)for use in the 220 band
with luck.. and also looking for a 220MHz mobile rig for trade


Re: antennas???

KF4TNP
 

the comet GP-6 works great no a whole lot og gain and for high elevations it
works great do to the low gain so it covers with in your 30 miles radius just
great on VHF and UHF

but the comet GP-6 is a dual band antenna and it is two piece not three and
about i think it was 8 foot

i have had good luck with the OTHERS also but until they acted like a rain
gauge i had to give them up or fix them

David Peterson wrote:

From: David Peterson <DPeterson@...>

Hi there,
I have good success with a diamond X500H this is the HEAVY Duty version
of the X500. I know that there is other options out there. But for what it
is worth that is my 2 cents.
Dave
KD4POG

-----Original Message-----
From: dcarpenter@... [mailto:dcarpenter@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 4:12 PM
To: Repeater-builder@...
Subject: [Repeater-builder] antennas???

From: dcarpenter@...

Can someone suggest a gud dual band antenna to use fer a uhf and vhf
repeater system. I've used a cushcraft 270-b (?) and now using a hustler
fiberglass. Both work OK but wondered if anybody could suggest something
better without costing several hundred dollars....
tnx ki5fw

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Re: exposed dipole question

Todd Ellis
 

Your fire station sites may be completely different from your 2m sites. The
antenna contribution itself is not likely to be the single issue, but height
above ground (AGL), ground elevation (MSL), output power, receiver
sensitivity, transmission and duplexer/filter losses all cumulatively
contribute to the propagation effect. The antenna is but one element. If
you were to compare apples to apples, you could change out the values for
the specific elements and do some comparisons. I have some prediction
software that takes all of that into account and even spits out a coverage
area contour prediction which can be overlayed on top of the station being
compared. But then again, we get paid megabucks to do this stuff
commercially! Hope this helps you some.

Todd Ellis, N2XL
Raleigh, NC

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Bleich <kurt_bleich@...>
To: repeater-builder@... <repeater-builder@...>
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 8:59 AM
Subject: [Repeater-builder] exposed dipole question


From: Kurt Bleich <kurt_bleich@...>

I have been watching some of the email in regards to these antennas, and
now I
have a question. We have a VHF repeater for our fire depts in our county.
Compared to using other ham repeaters on 2m, this repeater seems to very
deaf.
Would any characteristic of these exposed dipole antennas affect rx? This
repeater is all new and has been checked out several times, and I am making
the assumption that everything else is good.....I merely a 'user' on this
repeater.

RX is 156.165
TX is 150.995

I have not watched the emails too closely, so if this has been previously
discussed, please foward the info to me privatly.

Thanks
Kurt
KB0HNR

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Re: antennas???

David Peterson
 

Hi there,
I have good success with a diamond X500H this is the HEAVY Duty version
of the X500. I know that there is other options out there. But for what it
is worth that is my 2 cents.
Dave
KD4POG

-----Original Message-----
From: dcarpenter@... [mailto:dcarpenter@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 4:12 PM
To: Repeater-builder@...
Subject: [Repeater-builder] antennas???


From: dcarpenter@...

Can someone suggest a gud dual band antenna to use fer a uhf and vhf
repeater system. I've used a cushcraft 270-b (?) and now using a hustler
fiberglass. Both work OK but wondered if anybody could suggest something
better without costing several hundred dollars....
tnx ki5fw

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Re: Shortening Db-212 style antennas..

David Peterson
 

Gary,
check the spacing between the dipoles. Measure the spacing, and then
calc. the spacing for the frequency that you are using.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: w7ntf@... [mailto:w7ntf@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 6:18 PM
To: Repeater-builder@...
Subject: [Repeater-builder] Re: Shortening Db-212 style antennas..


From: w7ntf@...

Hi Tedd,
I read your message with interest. I have a similar situation. I was given a

beautiful shiny UHF exposed dipole array with 8 dipoles... four on one side
of the mast and four more 180 degrees out... The problem is that the system
is cut for the low end of the UHF spectrum, in the 420 mhz range. It does
work as is with an acceptable reflected power, however the efficiency is
real
poor. I am wondering if it is possible to shorten things somehow in order to

push the center freq into the FM portion of the UHF ham band? I suspect
that
it is possible to do so, but would proceed with caution, as we may indeed
get
the resonant freq moved up into the ham band by tweaking the physical length

of each element, but do not forget that the phasing harness is not going to
easily be adjusted. That would probably drag the efficiency of the re-tuned
dipoles down some, as well as produce uncontrollable effects on the
radiation
pattern, gain, etc... I would be very pleased to hear what others think.
Good
luck in your quest....

73, de Gary, W7NTF


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OARC Bylaws

Richard D. Reese
 

Several people have asked for a copy of the bylaws
of the Ohio Repeater Council. A copy is now
posted at:

For those not interested - please excuse the
intrusion.
--
Richard D. Reese WA8DBW