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Re: GE Ranger for 6 meters?
Chuck Wood
THE RANGER WONT MAKE A RPT UNLESS YOU USE TWO OF THEM. HOWEVER THEY ARE ONE
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OF THE BEST SIX METER RADIOS GOING. IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THEM DO. ALSO ARE THEY AVAILABLE TO OTHER PEOPLE OR WHAT? AGAIN DONT LET THEM SLIP BY THEY ARE AN EXTREMELY GOOD RADIO. 73S CHUCK WD6APP -----Original Message-----
From: Tedd Doda <lazer@...> To: Repeater list <repeater-builder@...> Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 1:31 PM Subject: [repeater-builder] GE Ranger for 6 meters? From: "Tedd Doda" <lazer@...> |
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Re: Member Update
On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:35:57 -0800, Cristobal Inos wrote:
I am glad I found and joined this list...I am equally happy to know thatLocated about 60 miles south-west of Toronto, Ontario (EN93). Our club, The Kitchener-Waterloo ARC () maintains a number of repeaters including 2m, 220, 440, and the soon to be released 6 meter. Tedd Doda CET packet va3sed@va3sed e-mail lazer@... |
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List of subscribers
To answer Bob's question about getting a list of all the subscribers: YES!
On your member center page ( go to < and login, then click the "Member center" button) click on the USS_Chicago link under "List Center" then select "Member Profiles". Finally, run outside and rotate the tires on your car.... No wait, skip that last step... This should give you a list of all the users on the list (24 at last count) Joe |
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Re: Member Update
Kevin Mitchell <[email protected]
Hi Chris, and the Group,
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I am getting this group from down here in New Zealand, and if this group is anything to go by, it should be going into every country, thanks to Kevin for adding it to the newsgroups. On the subject, Kevin mentions that this server will accept attachments, so hopefully we might see some circuits being posted. Hope to catch, or hear from everyone as the group grows more and more. Regards Kevin, ZL1UDD. Owner, Operator South Auckland Repeater Group. 29.64, 145.775, 147.325, 438.250, 428.575, 1291.100. Using Link-Comm RLC-2a and RLC-3 controllers with DVR and Remote Auto-Patch. PS. I am looking for equipment to run on 1296MHz as a repeater, I understand there is a mod to convert 430MHz equipment up to this freq. Come to mention it, I am always on the look out for reasonable priced equipment to use as portable repeaters and full duplex links. Cristobal Inos wrote: From: Cristobal Inos <soni@...> |
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Re: service monitors
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
Dean wrote:
From: Dean <deant@...> Go here for a really neat analyzer that won't bust your budget. I have built two of them and they work ok. Kevin |
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GE Ranger for 6 meters?
Tedd Doda
Hi people:
Thanks for all the replies about the Mitreks and Master II's. While at the Hamilton, Ontario fleamarket, a friend found some GE Rangers on 6 meters. They come with the 990 control head, and all 64 memories programmed. We can get them for $150 CDN ($100 USD). Has anyone tried these for repeater use? I would be worried about the PLL noise, but don't know if it would be a concern. Would it be possible to use the internal CTCSS (PL) encode AND decode at the same time (again, for repeater use). Thanks for any input. Tedd Doda CET packet va3sed@va3sed e-mail lazer@... |
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Re: Moto R2009 service monitor
Mark Sihlanick
thats for the tip. I emailed amtronix but they indicate they have too much
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of a back log and referred me to Communications Signaling. Mark At 07:02 AM 99/02/26 -0500, you wrote:
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Re: used service monitors
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
Can anyone tell me where I could find LOW priced used service monitors,I would go to the local Two Way shop. Many times they have one ready to sell for a good price because of a recent upgrade. I have gotten several this way. Also try this place Kevin |
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Re: used service monitors
Tedd Doda
Hi Dean:
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:11:21 -1000, Dean wrote: Can anyone tell me where I could find LOW priced used service monitors,When I was in the market for one, I contacted the areas cellular provider. I picked up an IFR 1500 that was about 7 years old for less than $2500 (Canadian...about $1700 USD). The unit was maintained yearly and is still in operation. currently using cushman CE-5Your Cushman is turning into a Fluke (hi hi). Wish one of my IFRs would turn into a Motorola........ Tedd Doda CET packet va3sed@va3sed e-mail lazer@... |
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Re: VHF Antenna Design
John Hackman
Oh, what a wonderful place to put a repeater! What's the frequency going to
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be? I'll look for it the next time I head down that way. IMHO, you do NOT want to use a gain antenna! Gain antennas get their gain by flattening the radiation pattern; the effect of using a high gain antenna at that site will be to put 95% of the radiation over the heads of the users. I would suggest a DB Products 4-element antenna mounted as far off the tower as you can get with the factory standoffs; second choice would be a Celwave Stationmaster [fiberglass - more prone to static discharge and wind noise] with same mounting. Regards, .....John WB4VVA -----Original Message-----
From: Terry Bartholomew NQ4Y <terry@...> To: repeater-builder@... <repeater-builder@...> Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 5:03 AM Subject: [repeater-builder] VHF Antenna Design From: "Terry Bartholomew NQ4Y" <terry@...> |
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Re: VHF Antenna Design
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
Terry Bartholomew NQ4Y wrote:
I am on a fact finding mission, gathering information aboutI don't know if it is a full 1.5 db, but due to matching efficiencies, it is better. One thing that is definitely better with a folded dipole is operating bandwidth, a Gamma match fed dipole is limited in bandwidth as compared to a true folded dipole. 2) What is the best way to orient the antennas on the towerSee below for an explanation. b) put them in two groups of 8, back to back...Since you said you need "near 360 degree coverage", I'll suppose you could stand a slight null in one direction. In exposed dipole arrays the mounting pole has an effect on coverage. In a 4 bay array with all elements in the same direction there is a null in the direction of the pole. In an effect to counter the null... one can turn the elements in all four directions to try to overcome this. As you know (because of the laws of constructive and destructive interference's) "maximum gain" can only be achieved by having the wave frontal hit all the elements at the same time. In low band this theory works well, but on 2 meters there starts to be a compromise in available gain when the elements are positioned around the pole due to the wave front hitting the elements at unequal times thus being slightly out of phase. This situation really becomes a problem at UHF because as the frequency gets higher the phase shift is more due to shorter wavelengths. This problem does not exist in a "stationmaster" style antenna due to the stacking of all elements on top of one another. I have had much better luck when using a 4 element dipole array on 2 meters (in omni) using the DB products theory of positioning the elements in the north south east west approach than the north east south west approach, for what ever reason. [Image] A compromise to the compromise. If a "double dipole" style exposed array is utilized, the effect of staggering the elements is less. Why? As I have read in my "Antenna Engineering Handbook" (by Johnson and Jasic) the concentric center of a double dipole array is more so the -mounting pole-. The DB 304 for 2 meters and the DB 420 style antenna for uhf utilizes this approach and are proven performers. You stated that downtilt may be a consideration. If the antenna gain is 5 or 6 dBd there may be no advantage in utilizing downtilt since the -3 dB point would be fairly close to the repeater site. As antenna gains increase, there are advantages in using downtilt. Downtilt can be achieved in two ways. Mechanical and electrical. Mechanical downtilt works well when a repeater only needs to work in one direction. (multipanel arrays not withstanding) Electrical downtilt works well in omni patterns but there is a loss in overall gain. A typical 10 dBd stationmaster on uhf will only have 9 dBd when built for downtilt. 10 db commercial stationmasters in the 450-460 range work great on 440 repeaters especially when vertical beam downtilt is required. For more info on understanding vertical beam downtilt.. Go to Top mounted fiberglass antennas suffer from precipitation static more so than exposed dipoles do. Go to for more info on precipitation static. I use a DB Products 4 bay double dipole array on a 2 meter machine. I feel there is no advantage to this antenna over a super stationmaster except for the lack of precip. static. [Image] My suggestion: Since you seem to be leaning toward the dipole array, and not knowing if you have the availability to the top or side of the tower for mounting please go to The DB 228 is an antenna with many advantages you are looking for. (no image available) There is a load of information on mounting and expected patterns on this site. There is also a calculator and software section at Very useful. The DB 228 can be set up for omni directional coverage. Because this antenna utilizes all elements in the same direction, a whole bunch of gain is obtained. This style antenna is used on a repeater I do some work on that the other moderator to this list operates (Dan Ruhe KE3UC) If specific questions need answered they can be directed to either him or I through the list. Hope this helps, Kevin |
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