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Re: 6 meter repeater..

John Hackman
 

Actually, at 6M receiver sensitivity is not an issue unless there's been a
lightning strike - the real thing to look for is, which if either unit has
an RF noise blanker? The Motorola "Extender" is a terrific noise blanker
that will remove all but the most horrendous of impulse noises that
otherwise would destroy weaker received signals. I expect GE has something
similar, but I don't know what it's called. This will make a very great
difference in the operation of your repeater.

Regards,

.........John WB4VVA

-----Original Message-----
From: Tedd Doda <lazer@...>
To: repeater-builder@... <repeater-builder@...>
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 6:09 PM
Subject: [repeater-builder] Re: 6 meter repeater..


From: "Tedd Doda" <lazer@...>

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:34:41 -0500, John Hackman wrote:

I'd use the Mitrek - why beat your brains out building fan cooling, etc.
for
the GE's and then have the recurring expense of replacing the driver and
final tubes? In addition, the mobile power supplies are intermittent duty,
so you'll have to build a high voltage power supply, as opposed to hooking
up a deep cycle marine battery and an el cheapo battery charger to the
Mitrek.
That's the kind of information I was after. I thought having
tube outputs would make it tougher? Only the old Master (1?)
base unit has tubes, the Master II (mobile) is solid state.

Any comment on RX sensitivity over the Master II, and the Mitrek?
The donor Master II is still on 42.something, so I can't
really do a fair evaluation, unless they are both inband,
but I don't want to waist time (money) on rocking the MasterII
if the Mitrek is more sensitive.

Thanks for the help...


Tedd Doda CET

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Re: For sale

David Armstrong
 

David Armstrong KF4LJR
Technical Advisor, Southeastern, Division
440 Plunkett Dr.
Horton, Al 35980
205-593-5321 home of the 443.725 Repeator an 53.030

How much an does it work, for the uhf master ll no pa?
How much for the johnson amp? Does it work? If you like you
can e-mail me here. kf4ljr@...

**

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From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>
To: repeater@...; repeater-builder@...; eddie
<wa4qkc@...>
Subject: [repeater-builder] For sale
Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 1:56 PM

From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

Have For Sale ::::

Ge Master II UHF Mobile (no PA)

Ge Master II VHF mobile pa

443.125 repeater with RC-100 Controller card
no duplexer

442.100 repeater with no controller
no duplexer

Ge master II vhf front end

Ge control cards, and repeater cards, tone cards etc..

motorola Micor low band mobile

motorola mitrek UHF mobile 100 watts

Johnson Challenger uhf mobile

Johnson UHF 70 watt repeater amp


Re: 6 meter repeater..

Tedd Doda
 

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:34:41 -0500, John Hackman wrote:

I'd use the Mitrek - why beat your brains out building fan cooling, etc. for
the GE's and then have the recurring expense of replacing the driver and
final tubes? In addition, the mobile power supplies are intermittent duty,
so you'll have to build a high voltage power supply, as opposed to hooking
up a deep cycle marine battery and an el cheapo battery charger to the
Mitrek.
That's the kind of information I was after. I thought having
tube outputs would make it tougher? Only the old Master (1?)
base unit has tubes, the Master II (mobile) is solid state.

Any comment on RX sensitivity over the Master II, and the Mitrek?
The donor Master II is still on 42.something, so I can't
really do a fair evaluation, unless they are both inband,
but I don't want to waist time (money) on rocking the MasterII
if the Mitrek is more sensitive.

Thanks for the help...


Tedd Doda CET

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e-mail lazer@...


Re: 6 meter repeater..

Tedd Doda
 

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 04:45:45 -0500, edriddle wrote:

the ge master II is the best choice i think. look on the web as there is a
complete set of instructions to modify your rsdio. also look up the nhrc
repeater controller. if you just search yahoo for nhrc it will come up and
i think there is a link to the ge master II
Thanks Ed. The sites address is:

Great stuff, and it looks very easy to do the mod's.

The Master II is tuned up on 52.525, so it shouldn't
take much to get it up to 53.27 (-1 Mhz).


Tedd Doda CET

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Re: 6 meter repeater..

Ray Vaughan
 

At 04:45 AM 2/24/99 -0500, you wrote:
From: edriddle <edriddle@...>

the ge master II is the best choice i think. look on the web as there is a
complete set of instructions to modify your rsdio. also look up the nhrc
repeater controller. if you just search yahoo for nhrc it will come up and
i think there is a link to the ge master II
To be exact:



The Mastr II link is at the bottom.

Ray J. Vaughan, MS, CBTE
KD4BBM
ray@...


System Maintenance and Upgrade

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Hello,

ONElist will be down for system upgrades Wednesday evening, from 8 pm to

11 pm Pacific Time. We are increasing our server capacity to keep up
with
our ever increasing user base. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Forwarded by:
Kevin Custer,
The list owner


Re: 6 meter repeater..

John Hackman
 

I'd use the Mitrek - why beat your brains out building fan cooling, etc. for
the GE's and then have the recurring expense of replacing the driver and
final tubes? In addition, the mobile power supplies are intermittent duty,
so you'll have to build a high voltage power supply, as opposed to hooking
up a deep cycle marine battery and an el cheapo battery charger to the
Mitrek.

Regards,

.......John WB4VVA

-----Original Message-----
From: Tedd Doda <lazer@...>
To: Repeater list <repeater-builder@...>
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:47 PM
Subject: [repeater-builder] 6 meter repeater..


From: "Tedd Doda" <lazer@...>

Hi People:

I'm looking for information on modifing either a tube final
GE Master, or a mobile Canadian GE MC74XC833A (100 watt mobile,
Master II I think?)for repeater use.

Which would be the better choice?

I also have a Mitrek...would this be better for use in a
repeater?

This is my first 6 meter repeater project, and I would like
to hear any thoughts on what to use. I have DB products
duplexor (6 can helical resonator, notch) to use and is
all tuned up and ready to go. All I have to figure out
is what radio to use and how to modify it for duplex
operation.

Thanks kindly,


Tedd Doda CET

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6 meter repeater..

Tedd Doda
 

Hi People:

I'm looking for information on modifing either a tube final
GE Master, or a mobile Canadian GE MC74XC833A (100 watt mobile,
Master II I think?)for repeater use.

Which would be the better choice?

I also have a Mitrek...would this be better for use in a
repeater?

This is my first 6 meter repeater project, and I would like
to hear any thoughts on what to use. I have DB products
duplexor (6 can helical resonator, notch) to use and is
all tuned up and ready to go. All I have to figure out
is what radio to use and how to modify it for duplex
operation.

Thanks kindly,


Tedd Doda CET

packet va3sed@va3sed
e-mail lazer@...


Re: 6 meter repeater..

edriddle
 

the ge master II is the best choice i think. look on the web as there is a
complete set of instructions to modify your rsdio. also look up the nhrc
repeater controller. if you just search yahoo for nhrc it will come up and
i think there is a link to the ge master II


73 ed n4ale

At 12:50 PM 2/24/99 -0500, you wrote:
From: "Tedd Doda" <lazer@...>

Hi People:

I'm looking for information on modifing either a tube final
GE Master, or a mobile Canadian GE MC74XC833A (100 watt mobile,
Master II I think?)for repeater use.

Which would be the better choice?

I also have a Mitrek...would this be better for use in a
repeater?

This is my first 6 meter repeater project, and I would like
to hear any thoughts on what to use. I have DB products
duplexor (6 can helical resonator, notch) to use and is
all tuned up and ready to go. All I have to figure out
is what radio to use and how to modify it for duplex
operation.

Thanks kindly,


Tedd Doda CET

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Re: Terminology Page

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Marvin Munster wrote:

From: Marvin Munster <mmunster@...>

How about adding "Reverse Burst" and it's explanation. I have had it
explained a time or two, but just can't seem to grasp the concept.
Marvin.

At 10:34 PM 2/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
From: "Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" <kuggie@...>

Here are the first submissions to the terminology page.

See it at

Kevin
Marvin,


Re: Terminology Page

de Ric KK5RIC
 

Reverse burst was used in the Olden Golden days of yore, when we used
mechanical tuned reeds to decode and encode CTCSS tones. These reeds would
keep running for a short time and the radio would be on open squelch, and
you would hear the noise squelch close with a "Ker-Chunk"

The reverse burst turned the CTCSS tone around 180 degrees and this caused
the reeds to slam to a stop, causing the receiver squelch to shut before
the user heard any "Ker-Chunk"


RUS Receiver Un-squelched
COS Carrier Operated Switch (sometimes called Carrier Operated Squelch)

All standard squelch circuits have a section that will switch a voltage on
or off when the squelch is opened. These voltages mute the receiver,
sometimes in concert with a tone decoder.

These voltages can also feed a COS or COR unit that amplifies this voltage
and then sends a control signal (voltage) to a repeater controller or in
the tube days the COR contacts would key the transmitter in a repeater. By
adding a large capacitor on the relay coil circuit you could add a small
amount of delay keeping the transmitter keyed when the receiver was
receiving a weak signal that was dropping out.

The COR was built with a tube 12AT7 (can not remember for sure) that took
the small voltage from the receiver squelch and amplified it to turn the
second side of the tube into a switch controlling the relay in the plate
line of that tube section.

In the early 1960s I worked on Motorola Sensicon A gear that had been
built in the late 40s with just such a system. We had a remote base
station on the mountain top with a 35 Mhz receiver and a 43 Mhz transmitter
controlled by a 72 and 75 MHz link radios, full duplex.


Rick Sohl KK5RIC

At 10:00 22-02-99 -0800, you wrote:
From: Marvin Munster <mmunster@...>

How about adding "Reverse Burst" and it's explanation. I have had it
explained a time or two, but just can't seem to grasp the concept.
Marvin.


Re: Terminology Page

Marvin Munster
 

How about adding "Reverse Burst" and it's explanation. I have had it
explained a time or two, but just can't seem to grasp the concept.
Marvin.

At 10:34 PM 2/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
From: "Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" <kuggie@...>

Here are the first submissions to the terminology page.

See it at

Kevin


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Terminology Page

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Here are the first submissions to the terminology page.

See it at

Kevin


Re: wanted / Query

Ken Whalen <[email protected]
 

Sorry about that,

The Model is a CM-4000B

Ken
VO1ST
vo1st@...

On February 21, 1999 7:57 PM, Ken Whalen [SMTP:techline@...] wrote:
: From: Ken Whalen <techline@...>
:
:
: A couple of things,
:
: First I'm looking for a schematic of a Power Supply for a Cushman 4000.
: Perhaps someone could point me to a source of service manuals etc..


Re: wanted / Query

Ken Whalen <[email protected]
 

A couple of things,

First I'm looking for a schematic of a Power Supply for a Cushman 4000.
Perhaps someone could point me to a source of service manuals etc..

Secondly further to the recent discussion of hardwire verses RF trunking,
is anyone exploring trunking via the internet? We are presently trunking
through a Satellite ( www.iparn.ca ) but with the recent flurry of activity
online, can anyone point me in the direction of sites that are
experimenting with this..

Thanks
Ken
VO1ST


Re: For Sale Posting, and a query.

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

de Ric KK5RIC wrote:

From: de Ric KK5RIC <kk5ric@...>

Kevin,

I use the term TOS to indicate some form of "Tone Operated Squelch"

Ric Sohl kk5ric
Ok, I'll add that to the list.

Kevin


Re: For Sale Posting, and a query.

de Ric KK5RIC
 

Keven,

I use the term TOS to indicate some form of "Tone Operated Squelch"

Ric Sohl kk5ric


DE:

Ric Sohl
Ham Radio Call Sign: KK5RIC (Advanced Class)

The REPEATER builder, my radio or yours (GE) I will build a repeater for
you.

New Mexico Texas

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For Sale Posting, and a query.

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Hello All,

Because of the high rate of new users to this list (about 10 a day,) I
am allowing the posting of "for sale" items twice a week instead of
once a week. I will go back to once a week once the list sub rate slows
down. I will let you know when (if) that happens.

If you have for sale items please post again.

Welcome, all you new subscribers. There are now 100 subs to this list.

I also have a want.

I would like a list of common terminology used in repeater service, and
an explanation. Things like Ptt, Cos, PL, Channel Guard, to even more
advanced things like BpBr, Desensitization, Duplexing and the such.
Please email your Term and well written explanation of one or as many
of these as you like. You are not limited to the ones suggested. Submit
all to me directly so I can start to assemble them in an orderly
fashion. These will be posted on the RBTIP site. General credit will be
given to the contributing volunteers.

Thanks in advance.

Kevin Custer W3KKC
List Owner


Re: VHF Mobile Micors

 

Might Be needing one of those, get with me off-line ad4cr@...


List server problems

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Many of you who have just joined the server had some trouble
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If you really want to be set for Digest mode (all html and images
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