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Re: TKR-850 interfacing with a CM108 USB FOB Allstar/Echolink
In most cases you only use five pins ( maybe 6 )? in the 9 pin
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I use the? Masters Communications RA 42 in one of my projects, but he makes a number of them, from RA 25 ( the simplest ) to the RA 42. On 1/7/2021 12:02, STANLEY STANUKINOS wrote:
Roll your own, it¡¯s not hard. |
Re: Kenwood TK-760H VHF
At 1/7/2021 09:05 AM, you wrote:
You need to be in a true DOS environment for these older programs to runI would change "properly" to "reliably". I run KPG-29D inside DOSBox on my Win 8.1 system & it works flawlessly. OTOH KPG-29D on my old WinXP laptop will not talk to the radio correctly unless I boot DOS on it. Since it's easier & doesn't require dedicated hardware you could just try DOSBox & see if it works. If it does it'll save you some time; if it won't talk to the radio don't waste time fighting it, just boot DOS. BTW both computers have dedicated serial ports, not USB to serial converters. For desktops w/o a built-in serial port you can get a cheap PCI or PCIe serial card. Bob NO6B |
Re: Kenwood TK-760H VHF
The original KPG-4 used a DB-25 connector for the computer side. The back-shell contains the radio interface circuitry. Later Kenwood supplied cables did change to use the DB-9 connector for the computer connection. The change was made possible by the increasing use of leadless components.
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You need to be in a true DOS environment for these older programs to run properly. Best to use an older computer that runs Win98 or XP and boot into DOS. I keep several older laptops around for just such occasions. Milt N3LTQ On 1/6/2021 9:57 PM, MIKE CHRISTIE via groups.io wrote:
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Re: TKR-850 interfacing with a CM108 USB FOB Allstar/Echolink
Roll your own, it¡¯s not hard.
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Stan On Jan 7, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote: |
Re: TKR-850 interfacing with a CM108 USB FOB Allstar/Echolink
Yea, I'm thinking about putting the URI on a Kenwood, to play around
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with it, see how well it works. Do they make pre-made cables for the 850? On 1/7/21, STANLEY STANUKINOS <Ka5iid@...> wrote:
If you have the ability to wire to SMD devices and have the real FOB you can |
Re: TKR-850 interfacing with a CM108 USB FOB Allstar/Echolink
If you have the ability to wire to SMD devices and have the real FOB you can save some cash and do it yourself. Otherwise the URI is the way to go. Plug and play as far as the radio to Pie interface goes. Just have to interface to the correct area of your radio.
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Stan On Jan 7, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote: |
Re: TKR-850 interfacing with a CM108 USB FOB Allstar/Echolink
Hey guys. Thinking about doing this with 1 of our repeaters. Should
i use this sound fob, or use the Uri? What 1 would be easier? Cheers, Jed On 1/7/21, jeremy_georges via groups.io <jeremy_georges@...> wrote: Thanks Jim. There just has been a few discrepancies on the pins - between |
Re: TKR-850 interfacing with a CM108 USB FOB Allstar/Echolink
Thanks Jim. There just has been a few discrepancies on the pins - between the service manual's strict language compared to what people are doing.
Googling around I found another reference that had all grounds tied together TA/RA/DG pins 7,12,19. NHRC wiring diagram In the end, I just wanted to make sure I didn't fry something when hooking it up because of some corner case implementation Kenwood might have had. I'm relatively new to the TKR-850... Thanks for the feedback. BTW, I've been bench testing the hamvoip image of Allstar as a controller connected to Maxtrac radios. It is amazing! I'm surprised I didn't play with this as a controller sooner! -J |
Re: TKR-850 interfacing with a CM108 USB FOB Allstar/Echolink
I use RA and TA for the audio in/out.? Only one ground is required - the transmit ground.? I use TOR programmed to come out on Pin 25 for the COR signal.? This is the CTCSS and COS combined.? Pin 25 can be programmed to be active negative or positive.? Pin 25 can not sink very much current to ground, and on one install of a link radio (Motorola) I had to put an inverter in the TOR output and program the TOR to go positive instead of negative to get the signal to key the radio.? I used a 2N7000 with pin 25 connected directly to the gate and the source to ground.? The drain goes to ground when TOR is active.
73 - Jim? W5ZIT |
Re: Regulator - 12vdc to 5vdc for Raspberry Pi
I purchased ASIN?B06Y58WLX9, but the one you linked says it is a variation of the one I had already bought so I think it would be the same or close enough.
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Squeeze the top cap with some vice grips and it pops off (careful to grip and squeeze as high as you can on the body). There are two screws on either side of the round PCB inside, then the guts pull out. Solder points should be obvious.
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See https://cloud.hamoperator.org/s/jcraYAbzBxA2mxc
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From: "jeremy_georges via groups.io" <jeremy_georges@...> Hi Danny, |
Re: Kenwood TK-760H VHF
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe Kenwood factory KPG-4 cable that I have used for the past 25+ years terminates in a DB-25 serial connection.? If you have a factory cable you will need buy or build a DB-9 to DB-25 cable.? As far as the aftermarket cables I have seen some that work 100%, some that didn¡¯t work at all, so buyer beware. ? Feel free to PM me if you need more info. ? Andy / NC4AB ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MIKE CHRISTIE via groups.io ? Andy _._,_._,_ |
Re: TKR-850 interfacing with a CM108 USB FOB Allstar/Echolink
Skyler,
Did you tie both the RX & TX GND together off the DB25? I didn't see a schematic for the 850 to see if there was any concern about bonding the two ground pins together... Only reason it raised some red flags was the service manual alludes to only using the ground associated with the corresponding signal pin. In other words, TX audio use only TX Gnd and RX/RA audio use RA Gnd. Just seems weird that they don't have a common ground pin for all I/O on the 25pin connector. -J |
Re: Kenwood TK-760H VHF
Al Lowenstein
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25 pin to 9 pin adapters are very common, or at least used to be!
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Frank Perkins <N6CES.r@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:20 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] Kenwood TK-760H VHF ?
Hi Mike,?
The 25 pin is "probably" serial.
The connector you referred to as "serial", I assume is a 9 pin. I this case, both are "probably" serial.
These two connector types are quite commonly used in all types of electronic connections. Know what you are dealing with. Many have been surprised with damaged equipment in the computer and communications industry by grabbing a cable and plugging
it in "because it fit". Same with microphone connectors blowing mic preamps.
Knowing the wiring (signal and pin#) on the 25 pin and 9 pin, you can quickly make an adapter if necessary.
Been there, seen it, and yes, I've done it!
Frank N6CES
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 7:01 PM MIKE CHRISTIE via
<MZFB=[email protected]> wrote:
Andy |
Re: Kenwood TK-760H VHF
Hi Mike,? The 25 pin is "probably" serial. The connector you referred to as "serial", I assume is a 9 pin. I this case, both are "probably" serial. These two connector types are quite commonly used in all types of electronic connections. Know what you are dealing with. Many have been surprised with damaged equipment in the computer and communications industry by grabbing a cable and plugging it in "because it fit". Same with microphone connectors blowing mic preamps. Knowing the wiring (signal and pin#) on the 25 pin and 9 pin, you can quickly make an adapter if necessary. Been there, seen it, and yes, I've done it! Frank N6CES On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 7:01 PM MIKE CHRISTIE via <MZFB=[email protected]> wrote: Andy |
Re: Kenwood TK-760H VHF
At 1/6/2021 06:57 PM, you wrote:
AndyAll the KPG-4s I've seen have a 9 pin serial connector. They may be aftermarket but they should work. Mine works on the TK-805D, TK-860 & TK-880. Bob NO6B |
Re: Kenwood TK-760H VHF
Andy
Thanks for the reply. I purchased the KPG-4 cable which is what I was trying to use and was using DOS. But I'm confused because the KPG-4 cable I bought has a serial pin connector on the end going to the computer and you said it has a 25 pin connector on it. Should i have purchased one with a 25 Pin connector? Thanks Mike |