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Re: cavity filter docs

Robert D. Mantell
 

Kosa Tibor wrote:

From: Kosa Tibor <kosat@...>

Hi Guys,

We are, in my little HAM-community in Gyor, Hungary, Thinking to start
repeaters. We have surplus radios, aerials, but the big Enemy is the
duplexer (cavity filter).
We need homebrewer's technical docs how to build a good cavity filter
for 10, 6, 2 m and 70 cm bands.
Can anybody help with some technical literature on any other ideas?
Thanks in advance
Tibor HA 1 US

email: kosat@...
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from Hollywood.
Your first step would be to read all available information on duplexor
technology. The RSGB book is a good source of info. You should also
contact a manufacturer like WACOM Products and request all of their
literature. They may be reached by e-mail: wacom@...
You should scan back through the Repeater-builder list-serv posting
for further info.
If you have access to inexpensive materials, building your own is
an option. Another option is to use two sites spaced far enough
from each other that no cavities are required. They may be linked
by wire or qrp radio. Please keep us informed of your progress

Good luck and vy 73.

Bob - W3TGG


Re: Repeater Antennas

Ken Califf
 

What is the bandwidth/freq. of this antenna? Also what is price? I live in
central Ga. and was considering a new DB224.

David Peterson wrote:

From: David Peterson <DPeterson@...>

Try Sinclair Labs. They will tune their antennas in
the Ham Bands. To me they are just as good as DB, but
last time I've checked they are less expensive then DB.
I have a new SRL-224 new in the box. It is for two meters, if any one is
interested.
Dave
KD4POG
PS this would have to be a pick up or a meet somewhere
near the Atlanta area. this is a large antenna.

-----Original Message-----
From: drreality [mailto:drreality@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 4:37 PM
To: Repeater-builder@...
Subject: [Repeater-builder] Repeater Antennas

From: drreality <drreality@...>

Hi Guys: I am working on putting a repeater together with a few other
folks help, and I am in need of a reccomendation of a good UHF repeater
antenna. I have seen a few of the DB products antennas and called them
about an antenna that would work for amateur UHF purposes. They
informed me that they do not build an antenna for the Amateur UHF
frequencies. I would like to stay away from the fiberglass antennas
also. The local repeater here used one for a while but the noise
buildup sometimes made the repeater almost useless to use. The
frequency for this new repeater is on 442.700 Mhz. Any help you folks
could reccomend would be appreciated.

Terry
KF0AO

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Re: Sinclair Duplexers

 

I had a set of ResLock duplexers for 220 Mhz and they worked well. The only
problem that I had was one of the notch capacitors was touchy. This was a used
set, also.

Joe, K1IKE

At 08:28 PM 4/26/99 , you wrote:

Hello All,
Thanks for the replies to my last request for info on the Motorola cavities.
I have found another set that I need to find info on. I have searched the
internet but have not come up with much. These are a set of Sinclair ResLock
duplexers model Q3220E. They are described as 4 cavities built into one
physical "rectangle". Present owner used them on a 440.600 repeater and are
supposed to be good to 300 watts.

Does anyone have any info on these units? Anyone with experience with
these? The price seems right but I need more info before I can think of
buying.

Thanks again,
Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
<mailto:w8cq@...>w8cq@...


Sinclair Duplexers

Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
 

Hello All,
Thanks for the replies to my last request for info on the Motorola cavities. I have found another set that I need to find info on. I have searched the internet but have not come up with much. These are a set of Sinclair ResLock duplexers model Q3220E. They are described as 4 cavities built into one physical "rectangle". Present owner used them on a 440.600 repeater and are supposed to be good to 300 watts.

Does anyone have any info on these units? Anyone with experience with these? The price seems right but I need more info before I can think of buying.

Thanks again,
Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
w8cq@...


Re: Motorola Cavities

James Hall
 

They do both and are excellent cavities. I use them in all my
440mcs. repeaters. Jim K7OET

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From: Jeff Weinberg W8CQ <w8cq@...>
To: Repeater Builder <repeater-builder@...>
Subject: [Repeater-builder] Motorola Cavities
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 4:18 PM

Hello All,
I have been searching for cavities for my 440 repeater. I have a lead on a
set of Motorola cavities model/series T1500. They are described as 4
cavities with notch filters

Does anyone have any info on these units? Are they band-pass/band-reject
cavities or just notch, or both. The price seems right but I need more
info before I can think of buying.

Thanks in advance,
Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
w8cq@...


Motorola Cavities

Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
 

Hello All,
I have been searching for cavities for my 440 repeater. I have a lead on a set of Motorola cavities model/series T1500. They are described as 4 cavities with notch filters

Does anyone have any info on these units? Are they band-pass/band-reject cavities or just notch, or both. The price seems right but I need more info before I can think of buying.

Thanks in advance,
Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
w8cq@...


Service Monitor

Gregg Bergman
 

I found a Wavetek 3000B Service Monitor in working order for $1300.00. I am
considering purchasing this unit. Is this a fair price? Really wish I could
find and afford one with a Spec An. Any one have the Manual or specs for
this unit? Any recommendations?
Thanks.

Gregg Bergman
gbergman@...
gbergman@...


DB Products

 

I think the response you get from DB is very erratic when the subject is amateur antennas. It depends entirely on who you talk to. I was transferred to a woman named Nicole who claimed to be an engineer. She insisted the technical information I wanted was on their website. I explained that it wasn't & repeated my question. She said she would email the info. She sent me the same file that was on the website. Forget Nicole. Other times, they have been helpful.

Mike KE4SHA


Motorola MICOR UHF 250 watt base xmtr - For Sale

Skip Withrow
 

I have a very clean working Motorola UHF 250 watt continuous duty
base transmitter for sale. Lots of extras with it too. Check out
the ebay listing -



Thanks,
Skip Withrow - WB0BBE
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Re: Repeater Antennas

Thomas, Kevin
 

Hello Terry,
KB5ZVK here to tell you that I'm using a DB420 set at 451.000 mhz.
35 watt transmitter on a 175' tower at a ground level of
185' with 1 5/8 hardline and I get a range 40 miles to a mobile on
medium power and still abile to use the autopatch on a cat1000
controler. I called DB Products about the antenna. and they told me
that I could get a new phasing harnes tuned to amateur band
But the price scared me away so I'm still using the this antenna tuned
for 451.000 mhz. I love it.And have no complaints about
the operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: drreality [SMTP:drreality@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 3:37 PM
To: Repeater-builder@...
Subject: [Repeater-builder] Repeater Antennas

From: drreality <drreality@...>

Hi Guys: I am working on putting a repeater together with a few other
folks help, and I am in need of a reccomendation of a good UHF repeater
antenna. I have seen a few of the DB products antennas and called them
about an antenna that would work for amateur UHF purposes. They
informed me that they do not build an antenna for the Amateur UHF
frequencies. I would like to stay away from the fiberglass antennas
also. The local repeater here used one for a while but the noise
buildup sometimes made the repeater almost useless to use. The
frequency for this new repeater is on 442.700 Mhz. Any help you folks
could reccomend would be appreciated.

Terry
KF0AO

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Re: Repeater Antennas

David Peterson
 

Try Sinclair Labs. They will tune their antennas in
the Ham Bands. To me they are just as good as DB, but
last time I've checked they are less expensive then DB.
I have a new SRL-224 new in the box. It is for two meters, if any one is
interested.
Dave
KD4POG
PS this would have to be a pick up or a meet somewhere
near the Atlanta area. this is a large antenna.

-----Original Message-----
From: drreality [mailto:drreality@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 4:37 PM
To: Repeater-builder@...
Subject: [Repeater-builder] Repeater Antennas


From: drreality <drreality@...>

Hi Guys: I am working on putting a repeater together with a few other
folks help, and I am in need of a reccomendation of a good UHF repeater
antenna. I have seen a few of the DB products antennas and called them
about an antenna that would work for amateur UHF purposes. They
informed me that they do not build an antenna for the Amateur UHF
frequencies. I would like to stay away from the fiberglass antennas
also. The local repeater here used one for a while but the noise
buildup sometimes made the repeater almost useless to use. The
frequency for this new repeater is on 442.700 Mhz. Any help you folks
could reccomend would be appreciated.

Terry
KF0AO

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Re: 13-509 mods?

tom oliver
 

Is 220 NOTES still around? If not how about someone scanning in all the back
issues and posting it somewhere?

tom n8ies

joecheck@... wrote:

From: joecheck@...

At 09:11 PM 4/25/99 , you wrote:

Im looking for Mods on the Midland 13-509's ( aka Cobra 200, Clegg fm-76 ) .
I have some copies of "220 Notes" articles from years ago. I'll look for them.
I had a 13-509 repeater for years, and did some of the mods. As a matter of
fact, that repeater is still alive & well and is for sale by the present owner.

Give me an email and remind me in a few days in case I forget, it's early.

Joe, K1IKE

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Re: Mitrek, Pin Outs

tom oliver
 


check the above link I think it will answer all your questions

tom n8ies

Kevin Mitchell wrote:

From: Kevin Mitchell <sparc@...>

Hi All,

I have a low band Mitrek radio, which is being used for our 10mtr
repeater.
I have got so far with it, but have come across a couple of problems
which I need some help.

On the 19 pin socket 1 pin has discriminator audio on it, and 2 pins
have speaker audio.
Can someone please supply me with the pins. Also I know that you can not
ground either side of the speaker, doing so will kill the audio amp, not
a problem. Can I use a standard 8ohm speaker?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Kevin, ZL1UDD.

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Re: Legal requirements

Richard D. Reese
 

Chuck,

I believe you are correct. I have operated one or more remote base transmitters
for over 20 years. Some individuals want to overly complicate things.

Reminds me of the time someone complained that I made an autopatch on one of my
repeaters and did not identify the third party traffic. I could not convince
the Extra class license holder that there were only two parties involved. There
was my wife on the phone and I was on the radio going through the repeater for
which I was the trustee. Could not convince him that there were only two
parties when I made a phone call and three only when using a system with the
call of another on it.

Rich


Chuck Kelsey wrote:

From: Chuck Kelsey <kelsey@...>

So listen to both transmitters with two receivers. You ID on the HT and
hear the ID on the receiver listening to that transmitter. What do you
hear on the receiver listening to the remote base? I'm pretty sure
you'll hear the ID there as well.

I'm not trying to argue. I just think you are trying to make it more
difficult than it really is. My final comment on the subject.

Chuck

----------------------------------------------------

Richard Bomboy wrote:

From: Richard Bomboy <rlee@...>

97.119 says in part: Each amateur station , except a space or telecommand
station,
must transmit it's assigned call sign on it's transmitting channel at the
end - you know the rest
so if a handheld is even next to the remote base as in the same room the
remote base still has
to id itself. Two transmitters, two ID's
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cavity filter docs

Kosa Tibor <[email protected]
 

Hi Guys,

We are, in my little HAM-community in Gyor, Hungary, Thinking to start
repeaters. We have surplus radios, aerials, but the big Enemy is the
duplexer (cavity filter).
We need homebrewer's technical docs how to build a good cavity filter
for 10, 6, 2 m and 70 cm bands.
Can anybody help with some technical literature on any other ideas?
Thanks in advance
Tibor HA 1 US

email: kosat@...
or ha1us@...


Re: 13-509 mods?

 

At 09:11 PM 4/25/99 , you wrote:

Im looking for Mods on the Midland 13-509's ( aka Cobra 200, Clegg fm-76 ) .

I have some copies of "220 Notes" articles from years ago. I'll look for them.
I had a 13-509 repeater for years, and did some of the mods. As a matter of
fact, that repeater is still alive & well and is for sale by the present owner.

Give me an email and remind me in a few days in case I forget, it's early.

Joe, K1IKE


Mitrek, Pin Outs

Kevin Mitchell <[email protected]
 

Hi All,

I have a low band Mitrek radio, which is being used for our 10mtr
repeater.
I have got so far with it, but have come across a couple of problems
which I need some help.

On the 19 pin socket 1 pin has discriminator audio on it, and 2 pins
have speaker audio.
Can someone please supply me with the pins. Also I know that you can not
ground either side of the speaker, doing so will kill the audio amp, not
a problem. Can I use a standard 8ohm speaker?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Kevin, ZL1UDD.


Re: Motorola MSR2000 Power Supply

litz
 

Andrew,

Here's a general run-down of all the voltages and what they go to:

High Current Output:
13.1 to 16.3 VDC, with 36 amp load, and 2 amp load respectively
Voltage is regulated *normally* only by the ferroresonat action in the
secondary winding. Of course there are the large caps and L601 (the large
420uH choke) for filtering/voltage support - but no adjustments. This
feeds power only to the PA.

Distribution Board (TPN6138):
Provides over current (fuses) and overvoltage protection (18V) through a
load resistor, as discussed previously.

Aux Reg board (TRN5119A):
Supplies 9.4 and 13.9 VDC, regulated, and are both adjustable. The 9.4VDC
is rated for 1.1 amps, with a current limit of 2.3 amp (foldback
protected). The 13.9VDC section is rated for 1.16 amps, with a current
limit of 2.3 amps (also foldback protected). Ratings are at 25`C.

The 9.4 and 13.9 VDC voltages supply power to the receiver(s), exciter, and
control modules. (not the PA)

TP101 should read 9.4 v, and TP111 should read 13.9 v, under standby and TX
conditions.

If you have aprox 15.0VDC to the PA with a 20 amp load, your power supply
is in good shape!

BTW are you converting a base to a repeater? E-mail privately if you are...

-Brian N0PMZ

At 04:44 PM 4/25/99 PDT, you wrote:
From: "Andrew Jones" <ve3gtu@...>


The 15.8v is with no load. Putting a 20amp load on it will only
drop the voltage to ~15.0 volts. Under a mild load (2-5amps) the
voltage stays around 15.6-.7 volts which seems a bit high to power
contollers and radios. You mentioned the 2nd output for the MSR2000
exciter/RX section, how much current is available at this port?
(2-3amps?)

Thanx
Aj


Re: Remore Base Legal requirements

Richard Bomboy
 

This is true but the point was about relevance

At 12:27 AM 4/26/99 -0400, you wrote:
From: JHowel@...

In a message dated 4/26/99 12:16:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rlee@...
writes:

<< If you listen to a broadcast station >>

Now you're talking about two different sets of FCC rules entirely

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Re: Remore Base Legal requirements

Richard Bomboy
 

Now what has that to do with ID?? If you listen to a broadcast station
aqll ya hear is the main xmitter not the studio link either, which has as much
relevance to this discussion as yer receiver statement. Point is, it is a
xmitter
and has to be IDed, period.

At 11:10 PM 4/25/99 -0400, you wrote:
From: Chuck Kelsey <kelsey@...>

So listen to both transmitters with two receivers. You ID on the HT and
hear the ID on the receiver listening to that transmitter. What do you
hear on the receiver listening to the remote base? I'm pretty sure
you'll hear the ID there as well.

I'm not trying to argue. I just think you are trying to make it more
difficult than it really is. My final comment on the subject.

Chuck



----------------------------------------------------

Richard Bomboy wrote:

From: Richard Bomboy <rlee@...>

97.119 says in part: Each amateur station , except a space or telecommand
station,
must transmit it's assigned call sign on it's transmitting channel at the
end - you know the rest
so if a handheld is even next to the remote base as in the same room the
remote base still has
to id itself. Two transmitters, two ID's
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