I've gone as far as I can with this thing. I'm happy to pay someone to fix this thing. I'm totally blind and although I can check and align things with a service monitor, I can't replace parts. When first turned on, it is fine. After it warms up for a while, I get a noise in the receiver like the attached file. It isn't the fan, and the transmitter is off, although it does get louder when transmitter is turned on. This is listening to the repeater speaker. I won't ship the whole wrack mount chasi, I'll just ship the repeater itself. Feel free to write off list. wa0vjr@... Thanks for everyone's help.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102
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----- Original Message ----- From: "John via groups.io" <jhaserick84@...> To: < [email protected]>; "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io" <wa0vjr@...> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 4:50 AM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater Check to see if the popping noise coincides with when the switching power power supply DC brushless fan starts up. John On 05/10/2025 10:06 PM EDT Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:
I put it back on original frequency and it is the same.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io" <chad.nelson71@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
When I had it, before Butch bought it, it was on 451.1875 with a plus offset. And I did the program it for a 442.100 frequencies so I hope that didn't unlock the PLL. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Janesville Wisconsin 608-754-8671 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On May 10, 2025, at 8:30?PM, Joe <k1ike_mail@...> wrote:
?Hi Butch,
I'm not familiar with the 851, but my first thought would be is this a repeater that was used? If so, did you first test it on its original frequency? If you moved it too for it may be a PLL tuning problem.
I don't know if you have to retune the PLL on an 851 if you move it a lot in frequency.
Joe, K1ike
On 5/10/2025 9:18 PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io wrote: I think something in the receiver, it is clean when turned cold, noise comes on after a warm up. Service monitor has been las several days. Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io" <ken@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater If it is doing that and a) the TX is off and b) you're sure it's not your service monitor then the only option left is the RX itself Ken At 04:36 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
this on the bench with a service monitor. dummy load on the transmitter, repeat mode turnede off. When first turned on, sounds nice and quiet. AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like bacon frying. Of course it is repeated if I turn on the transmitter. As I said, just feeding a signal into the receiver with my ifr 1200.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io" <ken@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
The cracklies?
Duplexer? Cabling? Feedline?
At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this problem? Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Janesville Wisconsin 608-754-8671 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:
???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a crackle kind of like bacon frying.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io" <chad.nelson71@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the crackle. I tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.
Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying. Not sure what is causing that. I can give you a call if you want to listen to it. kind of a crackling noise. I haven't tried adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the 151.1875 frequency.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io" <chad.nelson71@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop comes by Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the site in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters and figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on and it gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it off and back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush the whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up and work because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back on then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away from the site with no transportation. Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Janesville Wisconsin 608-754-8671 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:
???yes, works fine. nvda is the best, although works with window-eyes as well.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Nelson via groups.io" <chad.nelson71@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
That was one of my questions I actually had and you might have just answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work with the KPG 91D software? Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979 Janesville Wisconsin 608-754-8671 Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io <wa0vjr@...> wrote:
???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port and I can't find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp machine with a for real serial port. Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io" <ken@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
See Chris's comments about the fuse.
BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're updating the firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel DB25).
Good to hear you're good to go
Ken
At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for some reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is what I use on my other repeaters. Thanks.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butch-tiny puppy via groups.io" <wa0vjr@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io" <ken@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood 851 repeater
KPG-91D will work
Ken
At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it says check radio model, retry. Does it take a different program? Thanks.
Butch Bussen wa0vjr wa0vjr@... irlp 7135 allstar 56023 echolink 790800 new home phone 785 852-1102
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President and CTO - Arcom Controllers Makers of repeater controllers and accessories Phone: (503) 678 6182
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Controllers Makers of repeater controllers and accessories Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave. We offer complete turn-key repeater packages! "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" []
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Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave. We offer complete turn-key repeater packages! "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" []
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