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Hi Butch,

I'm not familiar with the 851, but my first thought would be is this a
repeater that was used?? If so, did you first test it on its original
frequency?? If you moved it too for it may be a PLL tuning problem.

I don't know if you have to retune the PLL on an 851 if you move it a
lot in frequency.

Joe, K1ike

On 5/10/2025 9:18 PM, Butch-tiny puppy via wrote:
> I think something in the receiver, it is clean when turned cold,
> noise comes on after a warm up.? Service monitor has been las
> several days.
>
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> wa0vjr@...
> irlp 7135
> allstar 56023
> echolink 790800
> new home phone 785 852-1102
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
> <ken=[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
> 851 repeater
>
>
> If it is doing that and a) the TX is off and b)
> you're sure it's not your service monitor then
> the only option left is the RX itself
>
> Ken
>
>
> At 04:36 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>? ? ? this on the bench with a service monitor.? dummy load on
>> the
>> transmitter, repeat mode turnede off.? When first turned on,
>> sounds nice and quiet.? AFter a minute or so, gets a noise like
>> bacon frying.? Of course it is repeated if I turn on the
>> transmitter.? As I said, just feeding a signal into the receiver
>> with my ifr 1200.
>>
>> Butch Bussen
>> wa0vjr
>> wa0vjr@...
>> irlp 7135
>> allstar 56023
>> echolink 790800
>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>> <ken=[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a kenwood
>> 851 repeater
>>
>>
>> The cracklies?
>>
>> Duplexer?
>> Cabling?
>> Feedline?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 01:48 PM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>> Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>> 608-754-8671
>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>
>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 3:02???PM, Butch-tiny
>>> puppy via <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ???o.k., is quiet until it is on about a minute then gets a
>>>> crackle
>>>> kind of like bacon frying.
>>>>
>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>> wa0vjr
>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>> irlp 7135
>>>> allstar 56023
>>>> echolink 790800
>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 1:44 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>> kenwood
>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I changed frequency to 442.100. But not sure about the
>>>> crackle. I
>>>> tried it here and didn't notice any noise on RX.
>>>>
>>>> Give me a call later on tomorrow, since leaving soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:21 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>> kenwood
>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>
>>>> The repeater has a noise on receive like bacon frying.? Not
>>>> sure
>>>> what is causing that.? I can give you a call if you want to
>>>> listen to it.? kind of a crackling noise.? I haven't tried
>>>> adjusting anything yet, but sensativity is poor even on the
>>>> 151.1875 frequency.
>>>>
>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>> wa0vjr
>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>> irlp 7135
>>>> allstar 56023
>>>> echolink 790800
>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>> kenwood
>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's good to know thanks. Hopefully my little laptop
>>>> comes
>>>> by
>>>> Wednesday because tentatively planning on going back to the
>>>> site
>>>> in portage on Thursday to visit the lady Buggs, well OK not
>>>> really, but putting up the Lincoln tenor for the repeaters
>>>> and
>>>> figuring out what is going on with my DNC. I turned it on
>>>> and
>>>> it
>>>> gives me a little Gibberish character, but then I turn it
>>>> off
>>>> and
>>>> back on again and then it works. Might have to just flush
>>>> the
>>>> whole TNC and start over. Would like it just to power up
>>>> and
>>>> work
>>>> because if there's a power failure and that TNC comes back
>>>> on
>>>> then it won't power up correctly and I'm 70+ miles away
>>>> from
>>>> the
>>>> site with no transportation.
>>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>>> 608-754-8671
>>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>>
>>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 12:58???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>>>
>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ???yes, works fine.? nvda is the best, although works with
>>>>> window-eyes
>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Chad Nelson via "
>>>>> <chad.nelson71=[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:44 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>> kenwood
>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That was one of my questions I actually had and you might
>>>>> have
>>>>> just
>>>>> answered it for me, but, does your Windows XP box work
>>>>> with
>>>>> the
>>>>> KPG
>>>>> 91D software?
>>>>> Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
>>>>> Janesville Wisconsin
>>>>> 608-754-8671
>>>>> Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 10, 2025, at 12:32???PM, Butch-tiny puppy via
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ???The computer I usually use doesn't have a serial port
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> find my usb to serial adapter, so fired up my old xp
>>>>>> machine
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> for real serial port.
>>>>>> Thanks all for your help. Good to know about the fuse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>>>>>> <ken=[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:21 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See Chris's comments about the fuse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, the only reason to use the mic jack is if you're
>>>>>> updating
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> firmware (or don't want to otherwise with the rear panel
>>>>>> DB25).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to hear you're good to go
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 10:13 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>>>>>> I tried it on serial port on the back and it works, for
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> reason, not on the mike connector on the front which is
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> use on my other repeaters.? Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Butch-tiny puppy via "
>>>>>>> <wa0vjr=[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:43 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that is what I thought, then why do I get that error?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ken Arck AH6LE via "
>>>>>>> <ken=[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 10:42 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] trying to read data on a
>>>>>>> kenwood
>>>>>>> 851 repeater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KPG-91D will work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 09:40 AM 5/10/2025, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> I thought my software for my 850 would work, but it
>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>> radio model, retry.? Does it take a different program?
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>>> wa0vjr@...
>>>>>>>> irlp 7135
>>>>>>>> allstar 56023
>>>>>>>> echolink 790800
>>>>>>>> new home phone 785 852-1102
>>>>>>>>
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>> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
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> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
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> We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
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